I'm looking for an all tube head, or anything "tubey" that is able to deliver those rich distorted/wall of fuzz/feedback tones... Similar to "Det Som Engang Var" would also be usefull. I'm no rip-off. I just found those tones to be a great base to build on with some additional fuzz gear. Speaking of fuzz/feedback gear; anyone tried some "Effector 13" pedals?... Silver Crank, Dark Boost, Tri-Fuzz, Disaster Fuzz etc...? What's your opinion on them? Waiting for clear, detailed suggestions and opinions. Keep in mind that i play only atmospheric and that i wish appropriate suggestions and opinions on how to get those "Filosofem" and "Det Som Engang Var" tones. Exemple: There's no need to tell me that some gear and amps arent great for metallica, or anything else for that matter; i dont give a shit about metallica and "anything else"... except atmospheric Black Metal... and those symphonic-gothic-modern "black metal" crap belongs to the "anything else" categorie. Burzum worshippers and "True Black Metal" Die-Hards suggestions are the only welcome i guess...

Wrong forum..

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today, varg vikernes says you are playing "nigger music" ...what do you think of that?

Varg said a lot of stupid things and he his the first to admit it. You should read his latest interview. You can play aryan music by using nigger instruments, and nigger music by using aryan instruments, as you can speak German by using Latin Language. What Varg comdemned with this sentence was the attitude, lifestyle of "sex, drug and rock n roll" fame/money craving new "black metal" bands... witch is related to negro "culture". He spit on the attitudes and motivations and new-comer posers that were acting like white negros... that is why he became discusted by Black Metal. However i'm not calling myself Black Metal... it is dead since a longtime for me... But i sure the hell am a little brother of it! But that is not the thread...
TO BSL
IT'S A GEAR THREAD

That's right, BSL, 'the fuck were you thinking telling him that this was the wrong place?! But anyways, you could want whatever tone you want, but shit tone like that is something he had to use cuz he didn't have anything else, and you come in asking to sound like a cheap static radio. I have no idea how he got some ugly tone like that, it's like actually harder to achieve that than to get a perfect tone with like a complicated amp.

well man if you ask me most any amp can do a Filosofem, id go for a solid state amp if i wanted to get this tone actually, just go around to stores and try amps and try and dial in that tone, shouldnt be too hard.

Man its cool to see some other people on the forum digging this album, it is up there on my favorite black metal album list

Fuck yeah

Iv'e been trying to get that tone for a while.

wow.. your stupid

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wow.. your stupid

Why?! Because I am not like you?!! Because I dot not correspond to your certainly poor and feeble "human ideology"?!! Or maybe because i piss on death metal (you seem kiddy enough to be upset by such a futile thing)?!! Because I spit on negros?!! The statements?!! Those are from Varg!! Next time you post such a dumb thing, make sure to give more details for us to have a reason to piss on your shitty being... Fuckin idiot.

what...you hate black people?

I hate humans. Humanity as become so sick that i can't just say I hate niggers... todays white mans are just as pathetic as other races. But, if you ask me, NAZI attitude woul be totally essential in an healty world.
This is a fuckin GEAR thread...

man, look how pretentious you sound.. both pretentious and ignorant at the same time, really. you are catching shit left and right because you tried to come on the scene like a badass, but you look like an idiot. you say you're about true BM but you talk like some kind of cock-rocking snob. nobody cares about your politics..
how about just "hey, how can i get the filosofem sound?" ?

I'm not pretencious or anything. I'm not an english speaking man si i do what i can language wise. Also i am not trying to look like anything; being part of a scene is not an ambition of mine. I just tried to be as specific as i could... you know help you guys helping me... Oh! and i do not care about politics neither...

I never said that i was about "True Black Metal"... Black Metal is dead... I was seeking help from those that i think would be more able to help me, with those "Burzum Worshippers"... Such a bad interpretation...

i would say get the shittiest amp you can pretty much, when varg did filosofem he was in prisen and could probably only get the shittiest amp. same with other albums they just used whatever was around which was normally small practice type amps

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I don't care what your ideology is and I don't care if your facist. I think your stupid because your just another NSBM fanboi on another internet forum. Now get your head out of your ass sista.



What a silly point to make. I don't even like death metal. I don't care what music you listen to. If that's so important to you, I think you need to be the one to grow up



And you seem to agree with them. But it wasn't my statement either! Jesus made me say you were stupid.




And so blurrying whatever point or question you make with useless details. CHRISTFUCK! I agree with TangledMortalCoil. You could just asked how to get the sound, but you had to post like a fucking nekro fairy.



What the fuck has that got to do with anything? Oh I get it, English makes your oppinions un-kvlt and grim, doesn't it? Now I'll tell you something shit for brains... at least halve of this sites posters don't have English as a first language, but you don't see them nancing around being all nekrofag. Fuck off.



Thats self contradictionary. If you don't care, stop being oppiniated then.





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If you hate humans, you should hate ayrians too. Thats very un-nazi to do.


To conclude: YOUR A CUNT AND A FUCKING WASTE OF PROTOPLASM. NOW GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC.



Well said. Will some mod ban this ass?

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hah, also if youhate humans why the fuck are you here wanting their input and opinions

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How come Hitler wasn't Aryan even though he preached it so much? Anyways to get that tone, I guess any amp will do, but it's like you'd have to go outta ur way to find shitty gear. Max out the distoritions and stuff, so much to the point that it's just like a wall of screeching noise hahah.

how do you meen? blonde hair and blue eyes dont define Aryans. it was simply the easiest way to spot them

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haha, this guy reminds me of a guy in my school, who was ones my friend. He had the exact same views, until I told him to go fuck himself. Pathetic.

Fuck aryanism,white supremacism and all this bullshit. There isn't a single person in the world who is "racially pure". But "cultural" supremacism makes sense, which is not saying I agree with it.

Bah, mods ban this guy and close this thread.

It's not like a want your affection, your company or to have some deep relationship... just asking about material things...

What the fuck is happening here? you all misinterpret- misundersand.
I never said i was a NAZI... of course being NAZI and do not have any consideration for his own race is a big contradiction... A funny thing about it though... Why people are more upset with racist people than to anti-human people... They seem to have more consideration for other races than there own and, most of all, dont seem to give a shit about their humanity...
Well this thread is completely fucked up. Thanks to those who tried to help me and dont act like asses. Fuck Off to the others brain-dread kids.

hey morons stop bitching about white supremacism


filosofem is a very digital album. the guitar tone itself is NOT big and wallish, its the drum sound that makes the whole album sound so huge. so, you dont want to have a lot of bass on the tone. make sure you are recording digital. make the signal peak out when you record (ie past -3 dec). have layers upon layers, and use SOLID state amps. a cheap marshall can get you that tone

look for the thread on doing varg vocals , i made a post about headset mics and it tells you how to do that as well, so you can rip off the entire sound if youre so inclined

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I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and wasn't planning on posting here until I saw this post.

First, please go back and look who were the people that, instead of aswering his gear-related question, began ranting about his political views.

Second, I really was surprised and disappointed to see the "OMG WTF youre a fucken nazi ban his ass" attitude here. And who was telling who to grow up?

Third, go read the "First" again.




WOW OMGSH you've made quite an impression.


As for addressing the original question, no, a cheap practice SS amp is unlikely to achieve the tone you're looking for. Bear in mind that the originally recorded tone on most bm albums is altered a lot and production plays a very important role on the final tone, hence the "dirty" sound. So you might want to rely on more than just your amp.

this thread is the biggest waste of bandwidth i have ever seen in my entire life. Even more so than this - http://www.numetal.vel.pl/

Yeah... my first my amp was an s.s marshall and there is no way you can achieve a tone any close to filosofem, or any decent tone, with that crap! I hate Marshall!!

well, that goes without saying... you're so grim, you just hate everything. crazy bastard.

"Bah, mods ban this guy and close this thread." - sarcasm my friend, learn how to detect it.

The reason I made the political comment, is because this thread is already veering vastly off topic.

"WOW OMGSH you've made quite an impression."
I wasn't making that point to show off, demented child. I was pointing out the idiocy of some people, and how some can be easily influenced by trends, because when I told him that, he became a communist soon after.

Fuck this asinine debate. Back to the original topic.

fuck the original topic too. just leave this thread to rot and wither away... it smells funny

I dont want to rip-off burzum's sound. I want to build from his tones... so any higt-quality tube amps, combos, heads suggestions are welcome.

But, in the end, isn't this anti-racism, anti-nazism attitude also a trend?




Yes, sure....

I couldn't really care less about racists and nazi's, as long as they don't disturb me, I don't care what they do.

Why yes, of course it is a trend, but a trend whcih people have put some logic and reasoning behind. It's not to such a degree as having Nazi opinions just for the hell of having of having Nazi opinions, which in my experience is the most likely case. (of people following that trend)

I had a lot to say on that matter, but let's not make the thread drift away from it's original subject anymore.

Yep good idea. Make a thread in Chit-chat if you want.

Why dont you just shut the fuck up? Are you gonna post your silly comment on everything i say? I do not have patience or interest in those things and, contrary to you, I am not an internet warrior faggot, where every attack is vain and free of reprisals, where courage and strenght are inexitant. If you wanna get silly in front of me, or have a physical fight desire, knock at my door. Otherwise, if that is not possible (which is certainly not!) show some wisdom and pride by shutting your coward mouth.

you make it sound like this is a war epic. sorry for not having courage and strength on an internet forum.....

EDIT: oh sorry.... "strenght". oh yea, and "inexistent" isnt a word. try "nonexistent"

That cheap MG you probably had is in no way close to any 'real' Marshall. In fact, I was going to recommend you a JCM2000 for what you're looking for.

JCM2000s suck. go for the 900... sl-x model if possible

EDIT: well, maybe they dont suck... but 900s are better

all of you shut up

seriously

talk about the way to make the tone

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Don't forget this too....
http://www.7volts.com/drill.jpg
And now the kids will really be bitchin on how we don't help.

I found 2 used marshall heads:

JCM900 SL-X (i dont know what the model is) 350.00 US

JCM900 2100 (is this an SL-X serie?) 400.00 US

Are those useful for what i need?

both are sl-x's.. the 2100 is the 100w version, the 2500 is the 50w version.

personally my favorite marshall tube tops for high gain.

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youre almost as useless as disincarnate. start stealing bass tabs and youll be on the same level in terms of being a total waste of time, not to mention unreasoneably argumentative

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You know, reading back, this is one of the most amusing threads ever

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OK back to the original question. Varg recorded all of his guitar albums using Euronymous' Marshall 1959 head halfstack and Boss Heavy Metal pedal combination.

Ohyes, the BOSS heavy metal pedal. Nice crunchy tone, but its out of distribution. I have a simulation of it on my GT-6, it sounds neat with some tweaking. Better than a MT-2 anyways.

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did he steal it after killing him

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hey, Breidablik, are you icelandic?

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i doubt hes coming back, but what makes you think he is?

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breiðablik is the name of an icelandic football team...

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how do you pronounce that crossed D

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i think its the same as our D

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it's pronoused like "th" in "the" Ðð

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I don't think so. I do remember seeing pictures of Jon from Dissection using Euronymous' Les Paul. I couldn't tell you if the picture was taken pre or post Euronymous' death. I am sure that all of his possessions went to his family.

i thought thats what this was Þþ

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yea Þþ and Ðð is kinda the same letter but Þ has a little sharper sound to it and is ALWAYS the first letter in the word, Ð is little softer and is NEVER the first letter of a word... Þ is more like "th" in "thus"

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I'm German. In the German-Norske Mythology, Baldr (Luminous), Wuotan's favorite Son and God of beauty and purity, live in his Palace named Breidablik, where nothing impure can exist, and which means "Large Bright" or something close to it...

haha dont have to get all condescending with us. both demon and i have read the edda, and manowar is an icelandic fellow himself

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