i was just wondering what your views are on the mesa boogie rectifiers.
and which one do you think is better, the dual rectifier or the triple?

what is a rectifier? no, im not asking what the amp is, a rectifier is actually a part of the amp... what the hell is it / what does it do?

I don't know what a rectifier is, but i own a mesa boogie dual rectifier and it sounds fucking awesome

wicked
what kind of tones can you get on it
do metallica use the duals?

what does everyone else thing about the dual rectifier

the single rectifier.

I'm not sure what it is exactly, but..
I think its a knob or something that switches the amps mode in the back. like on setting is SS, the other is tube and then the other is another tube mode. once again, I'm not sure what im talking about.

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i say dual... in this band i've been jamming with recently(on my buddy's stilleto duece that rocks). the other guitarist has a triple recto half stack... it's good, but to me it just isnt as... it's hard to put into words...
as far as volume difference between a dual and triple recto... there isnt any... the triple has better cleans and the high gain tones are a bit bassier(which is a bad thing imo because the dual has tons of bass anyways) and a bit looser.

both are still kick ass. i just like the dual a smidge more.

the single only has two channels and you can't change rectifier settings. plus it also lacks in clean headroom from the other two. and i like my cleans to be capable of being "clean".

wahoo buy a triamp...

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i preffer s.s. rectifiers for distortion tones anyways.. they're "tighter".

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http://www.outersound.com/osu/equipment/to-tube.html

for those who don't know what a rectifier does.

anyways, the single for me, at least it sounds cool when cranked the rest are boring

Single, only because its the cheapest and im not a fan of Rectifier's.

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How can you not be a fan? Engl?

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Im not a fan of amps that require alot of effort to get a good sound out of them. Thier extremely overpriced considering what other amps you can afford with that type of money.

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I dislike rectifiers alot. They require ALOT of tweaking to get the sound I want because of their naturaly loose and bassy sound.

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that's pretty much any mesa... it's like a combination lock.. you turn one knob ever so slightly, and the voicing and parameters for the rest of the amp is changed alot. but the right combo and you really can unlock some amazing tones.

then there are amps like the jcm 900's and 5150's that you can just kinda knock knobs around and get all sorts of interesting tones.

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Crate BV and 5150. Dammit haha since I tried the BV I'm goin fucking crazy over them, and I swear that's all I was thinking about today. Those amps appeal to me becuz of their quality and the great price that fits my broke ass budget.

You cna buy two 5150's or like 3-4 Blue Voodoo's for the price of a Dual Recto..

Or you can buy an ENGL or Framus

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The rectifier is the part that converts AC power to DC power.

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but none of them sound like a recto.... and the recto is a very sought after sound.

i can get a brand new in box dual recto for $1,000 out the door... booya.

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thank god they don't sound like a recto

My dual rectifier is the best amp I have ever owned. I can get some serious death metal out of it. But I also play a lot of metallica, kllswitch, slayer, Chimaira. And it all sounds good to me. It takes a while to adjust the sound. I admit. But my amp is full of post-its with settings on them

Works for me

well, imo rectos are over rated, but they still are awesome amps. and alot of people think that just because they're often considered over rated that that means they suck.

but $1,700 usd for a new triple recto from guitar center... ouch, imo there are many other amps i'd rather have for that price range. like a rivera, framus or engl...

eventually, like 10 years from now when i set up a better makeshift studio or something and start collecting amps, a recto of some sort is definately going to be a must. probably a recto recording pre.. depending on how much money i have flowing a road king would probably be worthwhile. because the recto is pretty much considered an industry standard in high gain tones... from new found glory to mudvayne to cannibal corpse. alot of people go for what they know.... the recto.

brands like bogner,framus, engl, rivera, h&k(the nice stuff),deizel,vht,soldano, ect.. are for serious gear nuts and tone freaks. most common guitarists i know havent even heard of them, and of course they are the same people that swear by marshall, mesa, and peavey... not that there is anything wrong with mesa marshall and peavey.. but when you get into the botique realm. the difference is huge. and you soon realize you have many more options in tone.

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nice post dude, that pretty much answered my question whole!
cheers man

btw, doe rivera make amp heads? and if so are they any good? give me exaples if possible
(damn i sound like a school teacher setting an essay)

cheers
user01

Knucklehead.

so is the knucklehead any good?
what about this particular model: http://www.rivera.com/Rivera/detail...00top_top.shtml ?

Brand new for $1000?? Not bad... but not worth it to me.




agreed

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factory direct baby.

not worth it to me either.. but hey..

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fuck yeh they are... i debated whether i wanted one of them or a triamp for the longest time... i bought the triamp, but i still want a knuckle head.

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ah cool
mick from slipknot uses that exact head

apparently he uses 2 of those heads...:S
one master, one slave...whatever that means
and apparently theyre both fitted with different tubes, so one has brand a and the other has brand b.

and he uses rivera cabs aswell

dunno how good rivera are tho, i guess i just havent really heard of em

hah, and he also uses line 6 and krank

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he only uses the line 6 spider II for practice

i'm sure he does...

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Ok , i've read the whole thread but I have a question. Tone wise what does a tube rectifer compared to a plain diode? As far as I know the diode influences the wave pattern of the DC current. It makes it more straight (when viewd on an oscilloscope).

First off, a diode is a rectifier. A tube rectifier is also known as a diode tube (i.e. is has two electrodes). It is not something different in functionality from a silicon diode.

To help you tie in the terminology, a basic amplifier tube is called a triode (three electrodes) and has the same basic function as a transistor. A pentode tube is still just an amplifier, but has five electrodes. The extra two electrodes in a pentode are screen grids for improved performance and increased gain. (Examples: 12AX7A houses two separate triodes and the EL34 is a single pentode).

The purpose of a rectifier circuit is to convert AC into pulsed DC. Some amps don't even have a full bridge rectifier, they just have a single diode to block the negative swing of the AC so the amp is only able to utilize half of the duty cycle from your wall outlet. The pulsed DC is then converted to a constant voltage using large capacitors.

The deal with tube rectifiers/diodes is that unlike silicon rectifiers/diodes they have a current compression limit which adds a certain character to an amp that silicon does not. Although I am not personally familiar with the single, dual, and triple recto designs you are referring to, I would guess that the number of tube rectifiers is correlated with the amount of current the amp is capable of drawing. When you drive the amp to the point that the rectifiers are at their current limit, they will induce a compression characteristic which is slightly different from standard amplifier tube overdrive compression.

Hopefully that makes sense...

Now that's quality posting. Thank you