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Old 2005-03-17, 13:10
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speed lives

hi i have just bought speed lives (no boundries) from metal method.

i was just wondering if anyone has mastered it yet,is it easy to play after a bit of practice.
 
Old 2005-03-17, 14:07
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Old 2005-03-17, 22:36
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There's been like 20 things on this, but who cares we all love Mr. Batio . Hard to play considering technique, but nice and easy to learn cuz he plays the notes clearly and the song structure is pretty goo.
 
Old 2005-03-17, 22:40
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hi

thanks for letting me know about this already being metioned i didnt realise
also im a bit stuck on the arpeggios thats the only part i cant do i can play all the fast picking parts any tips on picking arpeggios.

or as mr batio would say(practice,practice,practice)
 
Old 2005-03-17, 23:00
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im practicing the song no boundaries of a tab, it5s pretty hard , but i think its more cuz of al the stuff u would have to remember awell
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Old 2005-03-17, 23:10
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yeah

thats the problem with me aswell i sometimes play the first few licks
then by the time i get to the next one i for get the first.
are you any good at the arpeggios any tips on how you do em.
 
Old 2005-03-17, 23:37
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my memorie is pretty good i guess, the problems more to keep it going smoothly without loosing focus.

bout the sweeeeping

practice the movement slowly until u mastered it and like do it by accident when u panic (hope that makes sence) i mean make the movement a natural movement

ok to get to the point practice those movements every fucking day and master em
its gonna take time but ul get it
i cant sweep the thing rilli fast but im at an okee speed (dunno what bpm and dont care either)

im about halfway the song now and im doing ok on most parts
the parts with the sweep and the tab on the highE is fucking me up though(i rilli hate that stuff)

awell practice alot, its definatly doable

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Old 2005-03-17, 23:44
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thanks thats helped alot i will keep practicing and see what happens
also when you said you you were half way can you do the over under technique.
 
Old 2005-03-17, 23:46
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also when you said you you were half way can you do the over under technique.
explain closer please i dont get it

if u mean if i play like batio ..NO
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Old 2005-03-17, 23:55
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okay

i meant on the tab or even the video lesson theres a bit where
you tremolo pick quite fast and with your left hand depending on what hand you use you go over the top of the neck and underneath the neck etc...
as he says rapid fire.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 00:51
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thanks thats helped alot i will keep practicing and see what happens
also when you said you you were half way can you do the over under technique.


I don't mean to be rude ... but does the over-under technique serve any purpose other than impressing other guitarists?
 
Old 2005-03-18, 01:00
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Old 2005-03-18, 01:10
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I don't mean to be rude ... but does the over-under technique serve any purpose other than impressing other guitarists?

yes, um it impresses non guitarists too i think.
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Old 2005-03-18, 01:26
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I rather just do the over neck playing,undr over shit doesn't look good unless it's mike batio.
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Old 2005-03-18, 02:03
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all i meant was playing it like in the video i didnt mean showing off or anything.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 04:56
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That's like fast forwarded anyways, don't tell me it's not, cuz that's like unhuman speed at which he does that.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 05:27
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That's like fast forwarded anyways, don't tell me it's not, cuz that's like unhuman speed at which he does that.


Probably,but then again it seems that when he hits the notes,they coordinate with the sound.
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Old 2005-03-18, 10:13
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it definately looks like it's been speeded up a little
but i know its not because if you have the speed live video or speed kills
he shows it in slow and fast.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 15:30
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that stuff is just showing off(the under over shit) all he does is a loose string and makes some pull hammer. btw im practicing the song from the album, that lame under over shit isnt in there and it sounds cooler than the vid version 2.. i think
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Old 2005-03-18, 15:55
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i havent heard the album version.

so he doesent play under over your probably right it probably sounds a hell of alot better where did you get it from?if it's metal method i'm buying it.

 
Old 2005-03-18, 15:56
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The over hand under hand thing he does is not speed up or fast forwarded. ive seen him do it 10 feet infront of me at an edd roman guitar store when he was doing a demonstration(kerry king was there earlier that day doing his thing too) that shit is pretty mind blowing.
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Old 2005-03-18, 16:32
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it must of been mind blowing considering how close you were from him
does he play it faster than the video or same speed.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 17:52
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i havent heard the album version.

so he doesent play under over your probably right it probably sounds a hell of alot better where did you get it from?if it's metal method i'm buying it.

check the link http://www.angelo.com/html/mp3___video.html the album version of the song should be there, if not, must have got it sumwhere else then

did u ever see the version where he plays the 29 fret guitar?? its dloadable on most programs like kazaa, ares etc.
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Old 2005-03-18, 17:58
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Old 2005-03-18, 18:25
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Old 2005-03-18, 18:52
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i dont have any link of the 4neck but i have a movie of it on my cpu
downloadable on ares and probaly on more programs(clip is probaly called 'nitro') cuz he played it on a nitro concert or sumtin

the clip is pretty amazing but then again its michael

EDIT: add me on msn vis4life@hotmail.com and i can send u the moviecip of the 4neck (its about 12mb)
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Old 2005-03-18, 22:46
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hi

if you go on kazaa and type in frieght train you will see him play the quad guitar but the thing i dont get is 1 are the all the same eg 6 string
or 6 string 7 string etc...and the second thing is he only plays 3 of the four guitar necks.and also thanks to k13m for letting me know about the speed lives album version i will check it out now.

 
Old 2005-03-18, 22:50
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the second picture metal thrashing mad is showing
is the clip im talking about.When you download it you will only get the bit where michael angelo plays the solo then the end of the song which fades out.Also if anyone has got the full frieght train song on video send it me please.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 23:09
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I'd still like to see the video though...
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Old 2005-03-18, 23:15
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would it be okay to post the video here
if i can that is.
 
Old 2005-03-19, 08:25
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No, the forum cannot support such large files. The best way of going about things is to upload the video at a hosting site and provide a link to it.
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Old 2005-03-19, 10:53
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no problem


 
Old 2005-03-19, 10:58
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I'd still like to see the video though...
dude if u want to see the quad guitar movie, add my msn (if u have ofcuz) and i can try to send u

vis4life@hotmail.com
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Old 2005-03-19, 18:49
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I learned "no boundaries" which is the album version.
I've seen the 29 fret video.Sick awesome.
I have the freight train video.Cool.
he has two 7 strings on one side and two 6 strings on the other side.
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Old 2005-03-19, 19:40
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hi

where did you get the 29 fret one from
and congrats on being able to play no boundries album version
it sounds harder to play than the video version.
 
Old 2005-03-19, 20:05
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it's about the same thing.
For the video,search Kazaa under speed kills
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Old 2005-03-19, 20:17
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oh ive seen speed kills video i thought it was another video
 
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that 29fret guitar is ugly, but i would like to have 29frets on my jackson
that would save me time and money from changing tuning from c# to E and stuff

i just noticed how gay he looks in the quadguitar clip with the black tight leather outfitt eeeiiww
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Old 2005-03-20, 01:40
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Old 2005-03-20, 01:49
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Old 2005-03-20, 22:03
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speed lives

who can play the album version of no boundries speed lives
if any of you can which im guessing you all can could any of you send me the bit that he dosent play in the video e.g in the video as i mentioned before he does the over under technique but on the album he plays that bit different
so could one of you guys send me the tab of that bit please.

thanks acaciaavenue2003@yahoo.co.uk
 
Old 2005-03-20, 23:11
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u have it on dvd right??

if u have a clip of it on ur cpu, play it in BS PLAYER, u can set it to slomo by pressing spasce over and opver again, so u can see where he puts his finger

i did this to findout a tapping part by paul gilbert works pretty good

btw, i can play bout 35% of no boundaries album version, i can record sumtime and let u hear if u like (just gotta wait til im back in E)

EDIT: maybe il try to find those bitts out when i fele like it
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if you could that would be great
very much aprecciated thanks man..
 
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if you could that would be great
very much aprecciated thanks man..
do u have MSN??
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not at the moment no
i did though.
 
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il just post the tab if i can get it here then

EDIT: i just watched the parts in slomo and i think he doesnt go over under but just pulloff that he does so exagerated that he like pulls his hand all the way back and up, ill try to tab it when i have the time for it, im still working on a few tabs so
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Old 2005-03-21, 00:38
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if you go on www.metalmethod.com
and order speed lives he shows you how to do the over under technique
i just want the tab for the album version.
 
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http://metaltabs.com/forum/showthre...55&page=2&pp=20
go there thdere is a attachement in this thread with the album version tab, i posted it so just look for my avatar



in case the link doesnt work, look for a thread called.. how to play no boundaries ..should be on page 6 or 7 or so
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Old 2005-03-21, 00:58
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thanks i will let you know when i can play it
which will be in about 100 years
 
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thanks i will let you know when i can play it
which will be in about 100 years
lol nah u can learn it way faster if u keep at it im pretty slow at it cuz im in different tunings all the time maybe i should get a 2nd guitar
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how long have you been playing
 
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for bout 2,7 years now
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Old 2005-03-21, 12:54
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could you tab it in half a step tuning
 
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well when michael recorded it for the album and video
its in half a step or eb so for the first bit which i know is it starts at 14 and
stretch to 19 instead of in standard where its 12 to 17 i think
 
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well when michael recorded it for the album and video
its in half a step or eb so for the first bit which i know is it starts at 14 and
stretch to 19 instead of in standard where its 12 to 17 i think
owke but im not rilli getting what ur saying, so he played it in Eb?? and the tab is in E if im right?
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he played it as if he were to play in E but it was tuned flat so you hear it on Eb.
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ok so the tab is basicaly a half note off

still im just playing it that way
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your totally right as long as it sound the same who cares
 
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your totally right as long as it sound the same who cares
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i wish it was me.
 
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could you send me a recording of yourself aswell i would love to hear you guys. acaciaavenue2003@yahoo.co.uk
 
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It's maybe a dumb ass question but how does he tune in that video ?
I lost track when the conversation above got confusing
 
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it's a totally fine question he tunes down to eb or half a step
 
Old 2005-03-23, 13:51
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okay...thanks

I'll go start learning that song too
 
Old 2005-03-23, 13:57
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speed lives

let us know how your doing when your learning it.
 
Old 2005-03-23, 14:08
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I will . And if I'm able to I'll record some along the way
 
Old 2005-03-23, 14:31
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speed lives

even better
 
Old 2005-03-23, 21:24
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Sorry but my soundcard doesn't work and I can't record anything.I used to have a file with it when I barely learned it but I don't know,gotta look for it.
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Old 2005-03-23, 21:28
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no problem
 
Old 2005-03-24, 03:42
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Yeah the video is in Eb, but the real song (on one of his cds, and at the beginning of Speed KILLS, his other instructional video) is tuned in standard tuning. I can play about the first 1:20, the part I stopped at was the quick 1 octave sweeps, I didn't start learning to sweep until a couple months ago, only to realize that I was doing it wrong...... lol well anyway i've been practicing it and maybe I'll resume learning this song in a little while.

Good luck to you all.
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Old 2005-03-24, 12:04
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speed lives

thanks man
by the way youve gotta be good considering you have learned speed kills
that version look even harder than speed live so well played man.
good luck to you
 
Old 2005-03-24, 20:46
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whats the different of speed kills and speed lives?????????????????????
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Old 2005-03-24, 22:07
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speed kills

hi man

theres quite a few things different between the 2
one the tuning 2 its the same song just different solos
alot faster than speed lives also im guessing you have already seen it
because wer'nt you the guy who told us about the 29 fret guitar
if you are thats speed kills.
 
Old 2005-03-24, 22:27
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thanks man
by the way youve gotta be good considering you have learned speed kills
that version look even harder than speed live so well played man.
good luck to you


Well it's not perfect, on the first really quick part of the song I can hit all of the notes while sounding a bit sloppy, I don't bother to "overpractice it"...... in human nature you will automatically get better at things you've learned over time as long as you don't forget it . Anyway, I started learning this 3-4 months back, then stopped, then I replayed it and I noticed how much cleaner my picking was. I'm also not gonna play it the way Angelo does in his video, with the solos in stuff, at least not until I completely learn it. For now, I have the tab for the recorded version of the song, like I said, from the cd. Just remember, don't overpractice it. I only work on one thing for a certain period of time, then I go and work on another.
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Old 2005-03-24, 22:31
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speed lives

just make sure you let us know when you can play it all like i will let you guys
know when i can play it.
 
Old 2005-03-25, 00:10
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ill record my thingy soon, im back in E tuning so im ready to record
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coool man

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