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Old 2005-03-15, 03:23
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Alexi Laiho and Jackson Guitars

I read on a website that Alexi Laiho used Jackson Guitars. Did he used to use them or did he just now switch to them? Or is that a lie?
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Old 2005-03-15, 03:25
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he used to use them, now hes got a deal with esp
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This is old, he switched cuz Jackson wasn't giving him a good bargain and treating him as the "usual customer", so he said FUCK YOU!
 
Old 2005-03-15, 05:58
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connection between this and try not to drool too much,
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Old 2005-03-15, 07:57
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bastard face i thought this topic was announcing that he switched to jackson, and i was looking forward to see a pic of his "new" guitar...but no...
 
Old 2005-03-15, 11:21
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He doesn't play Jackson anymore becaUSE SOME MOTHERFUCKER stole 'em....but anyway

PLAY THE BEST

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Old 2005-03-15, 17:54
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He doesn't play Jackson anymore becaUSE SOME MOTHERFUCKER stole 'em....but anyway

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thats what you used to be able to say..... but yea, fender owns jackson now so i think youll be thinking differantly now
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This is old, he switched cuz Jackson wasn't giving him a good bargain and treating him as the "usual customer", so he said FUCK YOU!


he is a usual custumer, what does he thinks he is?

Jackson used to threat his customers very well, if they kick Alex out is because they think hes a dick, which he really is...
 
Old 2005-03-15, 20:33
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he is a usual custumer, what does he thinks he is?

Jackson used to threat his customers very well, if they kick Alex out is because they think hes a dick, which he really is...

Haha I know he is a "usual customer", I really don't care if he got ownd by Jackson. I just love making fun about it because I have a friend who loves Alexi and he says like Jackson was a bitch and too cheap for not giving him another Jackson for free (it's like fuck, he's some midget w/ long hair, he's not like Mustaine). And what the fuck is this shit with everyone saying that Jackson sucks now cuz Fender owns them? Have any of you guys played a pre-fender Jackson custom, and a Jackson Custom now? I wouldn't know, but I don't think fucking Fender owning them now would make their custom shop shitty.
 
Old 2005-03-15, 21:54
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probably not there custom shop, but it makes there mass produced major model guitars shitty.
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he is a usual custumer, what does he thinks he is?

Jackson used to threat his customers very well, if they kick Alex out is because they think hes a dick, which he really is...


He bring Jackson more money that you do.

Either way, His geetar were stolen. He called up fender and they said it would take a year to make the geetars he wanted, ESP could do it in 3-4 months AND offered him a signature line, and all his band members free instruments.

Of course he said yes.

Too bad Fender..
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Haha I know he is a "usual customer", I really don't care if he got ownd by Jackson. I just love making fun about it because I have a friend who loves Alexi and he says like Jackson was a bitch and too cheap for not giving him another Jackson for free (it's like fuck, he's some midget w/ long hair, he's not like Mustaine). And what the fuck is this shit with everyone saying that Jackson sucks now cuz Fender owns them? Have any of you guys played a pre-fender Jackson custom, and a Jackson Custom now? I wouldn't know, but I don't think fucking Fender owning them now would make their custom shop shitty.


alexi IS the new mustaine.
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alexi IS the new mustaine.

' the fuck is that suppossed to mean, you flaming homo.
 
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He bring Jackson more money that you do.

Either way, His geetar were stolen. He called up fender and they said it would take a year to make the geetars he wanted, ESP could do it in 3-4 months AND offered him a signature line, and all his band members free instruments.

Of course he said yes.

Too bad Fender..


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alexi IS the new mustaine.


well, he sure knows how to bitch like him
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' the fuck is that suppossed to mean, you flaming homo.


i dont know what your problem is, but not only does your taste in music blow apparently you cant understand a simple statement. im not going to bring this on any further. but for the sake of clarity, i mean that he IS the new mustaine. a forerunner in modern shred metal
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mustaine was never really a big shreder though, his thing was more about rythm. and he was god damn good at it too. Poland and Freidman and Pitrelli were the big shreders for megadeth. i think alexi is alittle over rated anyway, he needs more variety in his songwriting, as do alot of bands nowdays. they all still make good music though, so its not a big deal.
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yea, mustaine is a legend, alexi hasnt gotten there yet, alexi has good songwriting skills, i know he uses almost the same scales every time, but he also writes all the keyboard solos and melody's to, which he is very good at. Lets just say he studied his theory.
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i dont know what your problem is, but not only does your taste in music blow apparently you cant understand a simple statement. im not going to bring this on any further. but for the sake of clarity, i mean that he IS the new mustaine. a forerunner in modern shred metal

And obviously you can't take a fucking joke with the goddamn hammer smiley thing comin after it and somehow you put my taste of music in along with it. And SmotPoker, listen to stuff from the Peace Sells album. Mustaine in his later years was like pure rhythm, but in that album he's a crazy ass shredder. I used to think he was like Hetfield and he wasn't good at leads and stuff until I heard that album and was amazed.

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Sorry Silent Night (Its funny.. thats a Bodom song) but Mustaine never excelled at leads, while he did write some very nice solos.. he knew little to know theory which is why he always had EXCELLENT lead players.

Alexi blows away Mustaine in pure technical talent, his lyrics suck though.
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Old 2005-03-16, 22:06
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Sorry Silent Night (Its funny.. thats a Bodom song) but Mustaine never excelled at leads, while he did write some very nice solos.. he knew little to know theory which is why he always had EXCELLENT lead players.

Alexi blows away Mustaine in pure technical talent, his lyrics suck though.

Yeah I know he is nowhere when it comes to the leads of...let's say Marty (one of my fav.), but you have to look at the Peace Sells album still, Wake Up Dead for example, blew me away cuz until I saw the video, I never knew he actually played those leads.
 
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Marty didn'y play on that album, Poland did
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Marty didn'y play on that album, Poland did

I know, I know, I'm just saying someone else that would own Dave at leads. And uhh about the Alexi guitars...Is that J-50-BC or what ever bridge pickup that's on his Jacksons, are those active? And if so, how do they compare to like an EMG 81?

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i think alexi is alittle over rated anyway, he needs more variety in his songwriting, as do alot of bands nowdays. they all still make good music though, so its not a big deal.


Yeah,true,Alexi's good,but not a god to me.But he does write cool shit,I don't want anyone replying to this with "he's better than blah,blah,blah and he's awesome...."He's good but yeah,a liitle overrated
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I know, I know, I'm just saying someone else that would own Dave at leads. And uhh about the Alexi guitars...Is that J-50-BC or what ever bridge pickup that's on his Jacksons, are those active? And if so, how do they compare to like an EMG 81?


I dont belive they are active, but he used a jackson preamp in his guitar, which made it active.
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alexi IS the new mustaine.

Thank God for appreciative and SMART people!!! Check out the "Virtuoso Issue" of Guitar World, April 2005 motherfuckers! ALEXI WITH VAI & WYLDE!!!!!
 
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And obviously you can't take a fucking joke with the goddamn hammer smiley thing comin after it and somehow you put my taste of music in along with it. And SmotPoker, listen to stuff from the Peace Sells album. Mustaine in his later years was like pure rhythm, but in that album he's a crazy ass shredder. I used to think he was like Hetfield and he wasn't good at leads and stuff until I heard that album and was amazed.

Heh, Mustaine is a SCALE FREAK! He should've broken out and improvised more, that's all he ever needed...new inspiration, but he still is kick ass!

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Mustaine didnt even know what a scale was until he damaged the nerve in his arm and decided to relearn everything the proper way.
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Thank God for appreciative and SMART people!!! Check out the "Virtuoso Issue" of Guitar World, April 2005 motherfuckers! ALEXI WITH VAI & WYLDE!!!!!

That was cool but it only had like 4 pages of stuff that was actually worth reading. Was also stupid on the Alexi's column, just talking about his suicide shit. I was like "Why the fuck would I wanna read this depressing shit? Tell me about his guitars and his playing."
 
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Not to offend anyone, but isn't this thread for Alexi & Jackson Guitars?!?!?!? Not trying to piss people off for no reason, but make a new thread for Mustaine or something.....and stop arguing, everyone has opinions, show some respect!!!!!
 
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Yes, that suicide story was lame.. kinda made me look down on Alexi. Sounds strikingly similar to Eminem's story.
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Heh, Mustaine is a SCALE FREAK! He should've broken out and improvised more, that's all he ever needed...new inspiration, but he still is kick ass!

What was cool about his early years was like on the Peace Sells album, he switches leads with Chris Poland who is a pretty decent player himself. Was even better on Rust in Peace when Marty would play like a really well constructed solo that makes sense, and Dave comes in with like a more crazy off-the-wall type of a solo.
 
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heh, true, the suicide thing was pretty homo.....shit like that should be kept to yourself...but what the hell, he's semi-famous, and they wanna squirt that shit out there in the media...
 
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I used to think he had 1 Jackson, but then I realized that he had 2 custom RR's.
 
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Have like, a Jackson RR1 orgasm when I watch Passage to the Reaper. Roope and Alexi both with custom RR's. Roope's black pinstriped RR is fucking sweet, he has good taste.
 
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To whomever bitched about the new jacksons vs. new fenders
buy a fucking second hand one then

And Dave must have had more than 2 jacksons. He had at least one regular one and one 2 necked one.

oh, and stop fucking comparing Alexi to Dave
Alexi is closer to Ynewi (sp) hes fast, but he is boaring as shit and cant sing
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oh, and stop fucking comparing Alexi to Dave
Alexi is closer to Ynewi (sp) hes fast, but he is boaring as shit and cant sing


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I don't understand why people insist calling Alexi Overhated, its a fuckin' bullshit man, stop that, how many guitarists do what he does? singing while soloing and stuffs like that, man its fuckin' tough considering the solo accuracy and singin' style.

By the way, I don't thing a person who made a fantastic piece of song like "Kissing The Shadows" could ever be considering overhated, the two solos on that song are fuckin' beautifull!
 
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Roope's black pinstriped RR is fucking sweet, he has good taste.


I love watching that video, and drooling over roopes guitar. (and mine)
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That second song they play is awesome, its a modified "soloing version" of Walatari's-Move, i have the original version if you wanna hear it, its funny as hell its like some cheesy "orchistrated rap".
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Jackson couldnt make him guitars he needed to replace his stolen ones he needed one by 4 months for the next Bodom tour, he had one on order and jackson cancelled it as they changed the rules regarding customs.

Thats why he wen't elsewhere, allthough jackson rang him a few months later and asked him about it he said basically you didnt want to help me so i'm not going to help you.

Also unless you have played a pre fender USA select and a Fender USA jackson you shouldnt say they suck as you obviously have no idea.

They arent mass produced like fenders though they still have the hand touches to them.

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Also unless you have played a pre fender USA select and a Fender USA jackson you shouldnt say they suck as you obviously have no idea.

Exactly my point. I haven't played both either, but seriously, what is with all these guys saying that? Now for something different, go to www.scythes-of-bodom.com to read about Alexi and Roope's guitars.
 
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I have played a USA pre-fender Jackson KV-2 and my own USA KV-2 which i brought about a month ago. I really don't think theres any difference.
 
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Speaking of Alexi, does anybody here have the 15 minute instructional video he made? I've been wanting to get it, so if anybody has AIM... I figured this was a good place to ask, rather than make a thread.
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This is old, he switched cuz Jackson wasn't giving him a good bargain and treating him as the "usual customer", so he said FUCK YOU!


Maybe because he's got the fucking ego of the long haired hippy guy you see still playing night clubs at 46 years old.

I fucking hate Alexi Liaho, and I fucking hate CoB.
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To whomever bitched about the new jacksons vs. new fenders
buy a fucking second hand one then

And Dave must have had more than 2 jacksons. He had at least one regular one and one 2 necked one.

oh, and stop fucking comparing Alexi to Dave
Alexi is closer to Ynewi (sp) hes fast, but he is boaring as shit and cant sing


Dave had atleats 20+ Jacksons..

And its Yngwie.. and boring.

And dont even argue the current quality of Jacksons.. Grover knew what they were doing, and they did it well.
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Old 2005-03-18, 03:38
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and an old bc rich bich, back from his tallica days
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Old 2005-03-18, 03:46
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You say the most random things..
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Old 2005-03-18, 03:50
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Dave had atleats 20+ Jacksons..
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and an old bc rich bich, back from his tallica days

tis not random my boy
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Old 2005-03-18, 04:57
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Well, what's your screen name? Oh, yeah, and how big is the file, cause my computer isn't 'top of the line'

OH MY GAWD, LOOK AT UR MESSAGES.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 10:26
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There shouldnt be a lawsuit (Rest of World bar the US model) if anyones too stupid to see the difference between a Standard SV and RR1 they should be shot it's nearly as abd as the gibson PRS Single cut lawsuit.

Wow you hate Bodom I don't see the relivance between this and the thread.

I would be pretty pissed if Jackson cancelled my order weather I was famous or not.

The custom shop still has the same guys working there, allthough usa select production has moved to the corona facillity(is this right), but I think they are still handmade.

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Old 2005-03-18, 20:41
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yeah I don't know why there should be a lawsuit, there are plenty of differences between the two guitars. There's more guitars out there that look more closer to strats and les pauls then those.
 
Old 2005-03-18, 22:05
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Thier will be NO lawsuit, ESP's are made in Japan and they dont sell the RR copy in America.
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Old 2005-03-20, 15:49
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and an old bc rich bich, back from his tallica days



The handmade Rich Bich. Kahler, ebony...


Dave has the best taste in guitars
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Old 2005-03-20, 18:23
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I don't really go for his Y2KV and that new ESP he has.
 
Old 2005-03-20, 18:27
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I loove that Y2KV, its one of my favorites. and the ESP, I would put a Kahler on it and dig out that dumb 8-ball, but otherwise a not bad guitar. The body is a little big on that... I dont know why he made another custom guitar, which in my opinion is inferior to his others.
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Old 2005-03-20, 18:30
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No I wasn't talking about the DV8, I meant the Axxion.
 
Old 2005-03-20, 18:34
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Hrm Axxion, never seen it
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Old 2005-03-20, 18:37
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Oh woe this is the first time i have seen it

http://www.guitarsatbmusic.com.au/e...xion_2004_1.jpg

I dont like it
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