I'm thinking about getting a whammy pedal, but the only ones I've seen are Digitech. Surely there's more of a variey.

__________________

Not many people make those because they're ridiculous. Tom Morello used one for like 10 seconds. He got his money back in record sales, but most of us wouldn't. Try it out. If you really like it buy it, but I think most people would agree that there are better things to spend your money on like a real whammy bar...

The Digitech Whammy is the only whammy pedal you'll ever need..

__________________

dimebag did some really cool shit with that thing! i want one but i aint got 200$ to blow on that right now.

they're not ridiculous. don't kid yourself. tom morello swears by that thing.

whammy's arent the only ones.. alot of fx units, whether multi fx or dedicated processors do pitch shifting and octave and can be controlled via expression pedal.

give me a whammy pedal over a whammy bar any day of the week.. i like to stay in tune. and not have 15 minutes of fuss when i break a string, rendering my guitar useless because floating bridges are gay like that..

plus i like to use my hands to play guitar, not wank on the bar. not to mention most whammy-style pedals can do more than just bend your pitch.. alot can also do intelligent harmonizing. try that with a bar... oh that's right, you can't.

__________________

I used to own one of those. It sounded cheesy. There are a lot better ways to get expression than that particular piece of gear. My strings do not go out of tune when I use the bar a lot. Bottom line is, economics dictates that there is only room for one or two companies making those things because they are far from a critical piece of gear to own.

maybe to you it sounded cheesey.. and you know that digitech has many versions of it right?

well, 90%+ of guitars with trems don't stay in tune as well as string thru(per se) style bridge's. it's just how it works, you're bending the strings, and excessive bending with alter the pitch... some trems stay in tune better, and most need help from locking tuners.

what do you mean there are a lot of better ways to get 'expression' than that particular piece of gear."? you make it sound like expression is an effect of it's own.

i don't see what that last line is about... there are a tone of octave, pitch shifting, harmonizing, ect. in singal and multi fx units, and from alot of different companies.. it doesnt matter how "critical" it is to own... and whether or not it's critical is up to the guitarist using it. i know guys that don't even need a single pedal, not even a footswitch, they just plug in and play.. other's might want a delay pedal here, or a phaser there. different strokes for different folks.

__________________

what exactly does a whammy pedal do?

does it just immitate the effects of a floyd rose bridge or does it do something completely different...or both?

cheers
user01

A string thru guitar with a graphite nut and tuners will hardely stay in tune as well as a standard floyd rose guitar. I use the whammy bar a fair amount with my OFR equipped guitar. I tune it up about everytime I put new strings on it (about once a month).. I'll rarely tune it inbetween those times. I have a guitar that is string thru. I tell yeah.. that thing stays in tune for about 20 minutes..
And fuck.. locking tuners are fucking useless with a locking nut...

__________________

then you have a magic floyd, or you just constantly play slightly out of tune.. and your string thru guitar must suck..

locking nuts are stupid altogether imo.. locking tuning pegs are where it's at.

__________________

I basically agree with everything you guys are saying about the whammy, but spending $200 on that thing when you can get a Digitech floor processor with whammy and 50 other things on top of it for a couple hundred more is just silly...

dude, i hope you're kidding.

those multi fx units digitech makes, like the rp's and gnx's have horrible whammy's. not even in the same league as a real whammy pedal.

it's like saying, why spend $2,500 on a bogner uberschall when you could buy the line 6 ubermetal pedal for only $100... because that how huge the quality difference is between a whammy on an rp and a real whammy(i'd know, i've owned an rp2000 and a whammy II).

__________________

I'll have to take your word for it... Sounds reasonable. Haven't compared them. Next time instead of calling it ridiculous, I'll say it's an unnecessary piece of luxury equipment that some people love more than life itself...

I must also have a magic floyd!

Locking tuners are absolutly useless when you have a locking nut...

__________________

Mine's magical too!!!!

So, back to the point, you're recommending the Whammy II to the "servant of metal"? Was there another one he should check out?

exactly my point.

that's why you use your brain and take off the locking nut. silly




well, i guess you guys must be unable to hear slightly out of tune notes... NO brigde, floyd, kahler, or even non floating brigdes are able to stay in perfect tune for ever. tempatures change, pegs get knocked, tensions change, strings get stretched, ect...

you're in denial if you think otherwise.

i'm just saying, in most cases, floating bridges usually don't stay in tune as well.

not to mention if you break a string you're fucked.


the whammy II to the servant of metal??? what's that about.

__________________

"servant of metal" started this thread. He's looking for advice on what whammy product to buy...

If my guitar is out of tune right now.. its so slight that you wouldnt even be able to notice it. Intonation is all good. And ofcourse no bridge is able to stay in perfect tune for ever.. pegs get knocked? That will only be a factor with non-locking nuts .. and anyways.. slight changes in pitch from temperature is why god invented FINE tuners.

About string breaking.. yeah, it sucks but god also invented the tremol-no!

__________________

I've come to hate dealing with Floyds.

The title of this thread is funny.

just because your guitar isnt out of tune right now doesnt mean it won't be slightly out of tune tomorrow..

most guitars have non-locking nut's smart guy.

fine tuners are a form of tuning.

__________________

the origional wh-1 is usually considered the best in quality and sound... right now i think the ones being produced are the IV's..

and then if you want to stray away from digitech for pitch shifting, octave, and harmonizing, it all depends on what you need it to do and how much you want to spend.

the boss octave pedal is pretty good for what it does, and the boss super shifter is fun as hell.

the rocktron intellifex has a pretty good one on it. the tc electronic's g-force has a really really good one.

you could look into eventide, but i doubt you could afford it.

__________________

[QUOTE=xdislexicx]exactly my point.

that's why you use your brain and take off the locking nut. silly

well, i guess you guys must be unable to hear slightly out of tune notes... NO brigde, floyd, kahler, or even non floating brigdes are able to stay in perfect tune for ever. tempatures change, pegs get knocked, tensions change, strings get stretched, ect...[QUOTE]

Locking tuners are useless with a locking bridge.. unless your purposely trying to snap your headstock off by adding a shit load of tension.

Why no bridge will ever be in perfect tune.

__________________

Temperature and humidity changes do more than just a little de-tuning of your guitars. That is why if you really care about your instrument you should get the innotation and truss rod adjusted twice a year. More so if you live in a higher elevation. We are talking wood here, it warps, changes, expandes, condenses, all the time. And THAT is why you will never have a perfectly stable bridge/nut system.

__________________

Aw, religion. God did not invent the tremol-no, Kevan did!

__________________

God helped him invent the tremol-no

__________________

Kevan is god.. DUH

__________________