Hey, im new here, and will be planing to post regularly, dont abuse me as a passer by.

Ive got an ibanz guitar, not quite sure on model (rio?)
that i picked up from a pawn shop, its pretty good, im wanting to learn and eventualy play some hard metal. I have learnt the basics (notes, how to play physicaly, and some song tabs). I also have a small Peavey practice amp. Just the other day i learned to play the cool intro riff of slayer's - reigning blood.
Only problem was, it isnt a metal guitar, and i have played around with the amp alot, but its impossible for me to get a nice clean metal sound like how kerry king does. Also examples of fear factory, pantera, and well. everything else out there. I can play the songs, but it still doesnt sounds anything like the real thing.

Does anyone here know some tips they could give me to produce these wicked sounds. New guitar? (looking at a worlock) New Amp? New Strings?
Anything would help.

Thanks.

P.S Anyone know where i could get a Left Handed Warlock??, I live in New Zealand and its not easy.

Well you're not going to get a very big sound from a practice amp. Start with getting a new amp, then get a new guitar. But you should wait until you get better at playing first. It would suck to have all nice equipment and not have the ability to do shit on it.

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or you could pick up a nice distortion pedal, they have some good ones under $100. these seems easier than going out and buying a new guitar or amp. i would get used to playing the instrument before going out and buying another one. and i dont recomend warlocks, not even worth the $100 to me.

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Get a new amp. Trust me, even with a distortion pedal, it won't sound right. I know that from experience.

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Getting a warlock would be a very bad idea. Look at some Jacksons or ESPs.

Whats wrong with warlocks? I dont plan on sitting down to play these to much.

You have to dish out a good bit of money to get a god BC Rich

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You need at least a full stack amp (>=100W) and a high end effects processor with distortion, delay, compression, eq, noise gate, etc...
Then you need to crank the shit up to the point where you have a good feedback response going and dial all your shit in. Anything less won't quite get you that sound. Your guitar won't have much effect on the ultimate sound unless it's a total pile of shit.

Yes it will. The difference between my guitar before I upgraded my pickups and my friends guitar was very noticeable. And with my Dimarzios, its even bigger of a difference.

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haha i dont think he ment to sound AS good as them, he just wants to have better tone and distortion im assuming. one of my first amps was a crappy little peavey just like hes probably got(only 30 watts, and no effects built in). yeah a new amp would definatly improve your sound. I recomend line 6 amps(if your fuckin loaded with cash). I played on a buddys Line 6 half stack and fuckin love it. Their smaller amps are good too, the effects arent bad, but those little amps have lots of power.

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YES! Buy an expensive full stack and then buy an effects processor to get your distortion! Good Idea! Amp distortion always sucks! You need a pedal for distortion!

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trust me, thats the old death metal pedal.. its WAY more brutal.

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I didn't say amp distortion bro, I said separate processor (rack, foot, whatever).

MetalFrenzy, you'll never get that elusive screaming hot rod sound because that comes from the interaction between your speakers and your guitar's pickups, and the strings. Someone else said the guitar makes a big difference and that's true to a point, but it's not the key ingredient for that sound. Every time you waste money on small amps, cheesy pedals, and second rate guitars you will kick yourself later when you eventually own a real rig. I would suggest just sticking with whatever you have until you can afford the real deal.

Thanks all, sounds good.

For some reason i had a crazy idea that my Prac guitar and amp could some how produce the same sound as the legendary guitar players if i got some settings right on my amp and guitar or something.

I was being sarcastic saying that amp disortion sucks. Using an effects pedal/processor for your distortion is just stupid.

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Not if it sounds good. Amp distortion will vary greatly with volume and unless you've done some serious hot rodding of your amp you'll never get a good death metal sound without external processing as far as I've ever seen. My Digitech processor sounds way better than my Marshall's distortion. Having your amp clean allows you to change sounds on the fly and I bet you'd be hard pressed to find a professional band that didn't use processors.

haha, you're stupid. thats all im going to say.

ill sell you my DOD Death Metal pedal for $20. its SOOPER BROOTAL

No thanks, I already have one for travel purposes and it sucks ass.

i have a left handed warlock

nuts to bc rich, buy a fucking better ibanez
theres an RG 470L on ebay for 100 bucks, now get busy

Pedals are good when you don't have a great amp. I only have a Peavy 212 and there is 2 channels for distortion, and they both sucks if you ask me. I use a Zoom Hyper Lead HL-01, which isn't the best, but it works for what i use it for

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Low end B.C. Richs are total peices of crap. So unless you're going to spend a fair bit of cash on one, I don't recommend getting one, and even then a lower-end Jackson will still be a better guitar choice.

i suggest u find a good cheap second hand guitar like an aria, ibanez, esp etc, then start looking for a cheap second hand amp, maybe try line 6 or marshall

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Find a sound that you like mate, try the pedals out, IMO there ain't nothin wrong with them. I don't get all the people on here that fuckin winge about pedals and amp distortion. I've got two pedals and I can get em sounding fuckin nice with my amp and stezza so just try before you buy, a bigger amp will sound even better, but your probably just chasin something that'll give ya a bit more "heavyness" at this stage not a fuckin wizz bang double tube fuckin twin head $50,000 quad box are ya?, my 75 watt amp and zoom was fine.

i'm willing to bet that your sound has a lot more to do with you than it does with your gear. all the gear in the world isn't going to make you sound better than you really are. give your pos ibanez and shitty little practice amp to a good guitar player and he will still sound good.

oh no doubt, but a shity tone is still a shity tone.

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Sound has everything to do with your gear. Playing well is a completely different subject. Nobody can make crunchy chords and artificial harmonic squeals come out of rig without heavy distortion just because they play well. When a good player picks up a shitty guitar or is playing through a shitty rig, they just naturally play stuff that can be accurately recreated on that setup to give the illusion that it sounds good. You wouldn't even know who Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, or Pantera were today if they didn't have the gear necessary to get those sounds. Having a good sounding rig makes it a lot more fun to practice as well.

yus as everyone said low end warlock is total piece of shit, some one gave one to me and it looks ok on the wall, but that is about it it sounds totaly horible, get used ibanez

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Get a good amp if you can afford it. Then get a 4 X 12 cab also, it will make a huge difference in your sound. A good EQ pedal should be all you need. I use a MT-2 but only turn on the distortion a tiny bit, I use the EQ to beef up the sound on my Marshall VSR-100 Half stack. Good pickups are essential also.