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Old 2005-02-19, 20:34
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Iced Earth's tone.

can someone explain to me how iced earth gets its tone. more specifically the acoustic parts, and im also wondering how they get there pinch hamronics to sound like that.
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Old 2005-02-19, 20:36
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I hear some guy who hand builds amps, and makes only about 2 a year made their amps.
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Old 2005-02-19, 21:27
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I hear some guy who hand builds amps, and makes only about 2 a year made their amps.




damn, thats pretty cool.
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Old 2005-02-19, 22:07
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John uses these handmade amps.. the guy only makes around 10 a year.

Live he uses a TSL and a Powerball I believe.
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Old 2005-02-19, 22:39
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Yeah, I would probably only use something like that in the studio, because it probably cost an assload and even if John Schaefer has the cash to pay for another, it wouldn't be worth it. Plus a TSL and Powerball are both great amps.
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Old 2005-02-20, 01:16
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i thought you were jokin when you said that he hand builds them
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Old 2005-02-20, 06:37
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Not at all man. ENGL amps are hand made, and they probably cost way less than what john paid for his hand made amp.
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Old 2005-02-20, 06:51
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Yeah, I would probably only use something like that in the studio, because it probably cost an assload and even if John Schaefer has the cash to pay for another, it wouldn't be worth it. Plus a TSL and Powerball are both great amps.


Plus if one broke or got stolen, its not just the cost.. its the time. I bet its a LONG wait.
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Old 2005-02-20, 20:45
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cool what price range are they?
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Old 2005-02-21, 01:14
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The "Ridiculous and not needed" price range. I assuming it's probably at least as much as a Diezel Vh4, if not more.
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Old 2005-02-21, 01:23
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The "Ridiculous and not needed" price range.

haha the "damn my house cost that much" price range
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Old 2005-02-21, 01:30
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haha the "damn my house cost that much" price range


haha, nice.

Seriously though, do you really need an amp thats all super hand made and has like 848745874876 channels to play some power/thrash?
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Old 2005-02-21, 01:35
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It porbably only has two channels.. maybe even one.

If your serious about guitar playing than I'd say its worth it. John found an amp he loves so he paid the amount it cost.
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Old 2005-02-21, 01:55
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It porbably only has two channels.. maybe even one.

If your serious about guitar playing than I'd say its worth it. John found an amp he loves so he paid the amount it cost.


I suppose, but for someone such as me, who loves playing guitar, and loves having great tone, I still couldn't drop down 5000$ for just an amp head.
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Old 2005-02-21, 02:03
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Yeh.. but your not Jon Schaffer, be happy you arent.
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Old 2005-02-21, 05:28
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It porbably only has two channels.. maybe even one.


for real.. why not just grab a soldano avenger?
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Old 2005-02-21, 05:37
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for real.. why not just grab a soldano avenger?


I sense a slight amount of sarcasm here. The Avenger actually sounds pretty good, but its not versitile at all...
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Old 2005-02-21, 05:38
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cause he's John Schaffer and needs a 100% hand made ultra botique amp dammit!
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Old 2005-02-21, 05:49
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cause he's John Schaffer and needs a 100% hand made ultra botique amp dammit!

haha, thats funny, because I don't even like iced earth, I just wanted to tell this guy that his tone is probably unachievable.
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Old 2005-02-21, 05:57
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He gets a good tone, and a wide variety of tones, only at a very high price.

As for the Avenger.. its a kickass amp.. but only one channel which is why XDX was poking fun at it.
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Old 2005-02-21, 06:06
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He gets a good tone, and a wide variety of tones, only at a very high price.

As for the Avenger.. its a kickass amp.. but only one channel which is why XDX was poking fun at it.


Yeah, I'm always changing my mind about gear. I need one thing though, a sick fucking distortion that sounds like Suffocations Peirced From Within.
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Old 2005-02-21, 16:16
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the avengers pretty much the lead channel and power section off of a slo 100.. awesome amp..

i mean, if you want godly good tone and all that... but you only need one channel... do you really need a "custom handmade just for you" amp? there are an insane amount of botique amps that are more than good enough.

i guess if i had tons of money though i'd go for it too... just because.
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Old 2005-02-21, 18:19
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the avengers pretty much the lead channel and power section off of a slo 100.. awesome amp..

i mean, if you want godly good tone and all that... but you only need one channel... do you really need a "custom handmade just for you" amp? there are an insane amount of botique amps that are more than good enough.

i guess if i had tons of money though i'd go for it too... just because.


Yeah, probably. For the moment though, I'll stick with Rack stuff and keep looking for an Ampeg Vh140c.
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Old 2005-02-21, 18:29
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ssPageName=WDVW

its only missing two reverbs knobs that probably cost like 50 cents.
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Old 2005-02-21, 19:19
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Oh yeah dude, I knew it was there, I just dont have the funds right now.
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Old 2005-02-21, 20:34
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its only missing two reverbs knobs that probably cost like 50 cents.

it says mint condition, but missing two knobs.. ha..

reverb is for sissy little cof fans anyways.
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Old 2005-02-21, 20:37
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yeh.. feggit music.

I like reverb for some solo's make tapping alot smoother.. but I wouldnt be using it all the time.
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Old 2005-02-21, 20:40
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whast wrong with verb? i got it dimed always
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Old 2005-02-21, 20:42
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Old 2005-02-21, 20:43
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nothing is wrong with it... i was just making fun of this black metal band i know that uses an insane amount of it on everything. i guess they feel more necro with all that reverb washing away the sounds of them sucking.

like all effects, it has it's place.
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nothing is wrong with it... i was just making fun of this black metal band i know that uses an insane amount of it on everything. i guess they feel more necro with all that reverb washing away the sounds of them sucking.

like all effects, it has it's place.

And its place in my music is non existant. But thats just personal preference.
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Old 2005-02-22, 03:18
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I dunno, for some smooth lead work a little bit of verb wont hurt.. Necrophagist might use verb on some leads.
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Old 2005-03-01, 16:53
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nothing is wrong with it... i was just making fun of this black metal band i know that uses an insane amount of it on everything. i guess they feel more necro with all that reverb washing away the sounds of them sucking.

like all effects, it has it's place.



except fuzz, fuzz is useless. you could just mess with your guitar chord and get the same effect couldnt you? a little stomping goes a long way
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except fuzz, fuzz is useless.

only if you're handicap. it's just another form of distortion... used mostly for leads and slugdey muffed out chording.
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Old 2005-03-01, 20:15
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kind of a lo-fi sound
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