Wassup all, u probably remember me asking bitchloads of questions about esp, bc rich, schecter guitars. I just got an Rg t 42bp. What pickups should i put in it? Evoplutions, x2ns, invaders, jbs, wat? I need good tone, but a bit more gain in the bridge/mixed pickup sounds. I play a mix of melodic/brutal deat metal and more straight forward hardcore sort of riffs

X2N.

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EMG 81/85or60...

dude all those are good. you just need to play em and pick which one sounds best to you

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they all have their advantages, i personally have dimarzios, but in my next i wouldnt mind a SD invader

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for an RG shaped guitar, I'de definetly take either dimarzio's or sd's. but probably dimarzio's since I love my tone zones

congrats on the RGT dude.

Evolutions, or Tone Zone. And yeah, Def, I love me Tone Zone too.

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Total personal preference. X2N's a howl from hell shredding the bones of lesser beings, liberally spreading their entrails over the blackened smoking plains of desolation.

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I just bought an EMG 81 to replace my SD JB. I'll let you guys know how that turns out.

hypocrisy

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blasfemey (sp?)

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Blasphemy.

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I wont be able to try them out since i live in a smallish town etc. Dimarzios just seem to sound "right" in an rg... unfortunately I think Dimarzio dont have an agent in South Africa anymore, so I will be relying on you guys for advise. So what do you think X2N in the bridge, what for the neck? I need schweet tone but a bit extra gain as well. How does the tone zone, Evolution work for metal?

I have an RGT 42 also, in a few weeks I am throwing an 81 and a 60 in there. So I say EMG's/IMO

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GREAT!!!!1

not the highest output pickups, but still pretty hot and the "tone" factor is huge as is the clarity.

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I knew you would'nt like that, but it's all a matter of taste. If the EMG does what I think it will do ( hotter, tighter low end ) then I'll have to sell the JB.

EMG's arent hot people...

their very low output, why do you think they have a preamp boosting the signal?

you'll grow out of the trend sooner or later, we all do

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they are hot smart guy, because of the peamp boosting the signal..

that's just something you make up because you want people to think they're weak... but they arent weak sounding. they're hot sounding. whether it's from a preamp boosting a low signal or not, they are hot.

that's like saying:
5150's are low gain weak little amps, they need several preamp tubes to give them that gain. duh

it's no trend... and not all do "grow out of it". look at alot of your guitar heros.. so many of them are sporting emg's. and there is good reason for it. they're great pickups.

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Its the truth.. they have a low signal and the preamp boost it. Thats why their clear and not muddy (I dunno what the hell happed to the 707 though.. but it is modeled after the 85, which is supposed to be a neck pickup)

Not rocket science, but the pickups themselves arent hot.. after you add the preamp they are. How someone could see that as a negative point is beyond me.

Hell if I got free EMG's i'd use them too!

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Anyways, I need to try an EMG for once. I live in a small town and have never played a guitar with EMG's.

you're missing the point... you make it sound like it's a bad thing for them to be low output, and needing a preamp to boost them.

when people say an emg is hot.. they don't care about the science or anything... they just careabout it sounding hot.. and emg's do.

so it doenst make much sense as to why you'd even bring it up.

in the end emg's "sound" very high output, clear, tight and quiet.

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Just trying to spread the facts... Unless people dont want to know how an EMG works.

But yeh, EMG's are tight and quiet (even thought My Dimarzio's are quieter due to some extensive grounding) and very clear.

I just dont dig the tone.. even thought I'll probably be buying a 81-7 to put in the bridge of my backup 7 string to replace that horrid 707.. I might pop the 707 in the neck, not sure.

Now that the guitar has been butchered in order to fit those EMG's in it I might as well keep the hideous routes hidden under the pickguard.

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I like Dimarzios, although I might be putting EMG into whatever my next guitar is.

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But they're using a preamp, so they're cheating

how?

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wow... is BLS about to defend EMGs?

No, but idiots take my words out of context.. then say stupid things.

But using a preamp to boost a low signal isent cheating.. an amp does the same thing. Guess we all cheat!

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am i he only one here who saw the sarcasm in johm holland?

i'm just saying that emg's are considered hot pickups. have your fit about them not being, but that's what they're considered because that's how they sound. that's all there is to it.

and when bls posts his random and irrelivant trivia about how they arent hot, but really low output boosted by preamping, it confuses people and makes it sound like he's saying they're weak..

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That's their own stupidity for interpreting things that way, I cant be held responsible for their intelligence level.

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I hope not.

It is silly to question the integrity of an active pickup ... just because its active. Whether or not the ceramic coils in the pickups themselves are wound hot, or not, does not make a difference. Clearly, it does'nt, otherwise EMG's would'nt have such a reputation for being so conducive to artificial harmonics, and having 'hot' characteristics. They do have that reputation, and for good reason. That's the bottom line.

okay, basically i'm just saying your statements are absolutely pointless... an emg is a hot pickup as far as everybody is concerned and it's totally irrelivant whether they use a preamp to boost the signal, or the ceramic coils are like that. the end result is a hot pickup.

in a "rig", a jcm 800(per se) is just a low-medium gain amp.. but then you put a boost pedal like a proco rat in front of it.. walla, you have yourself a high gain "rig". not all of the gain has to come from the amp for it to be a high gain rig... hell, it could be a jc 120 with an eh double muff in front of it(meaning non of the gain comes fromt he amp) and it could be considered a high gain "rig" because somewhere in the chain, the signal has alot of gain.

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Yes sir..

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your analogy proves BLS's point.

EMG PICKUP = not hot
EMG pickup + preamp boost = hot
JCM 800 = medium gain amp
JCM 800 + boost pedal = high gain



just playing devil's advocate here...

Well, both xdx and BLS do have points, but they're obviously rhetorical to state, at best. I think someone here just hates EMG's

Yeh, I dislike EMG's but my opinion is far from biased because I'm most likely the ONLY person on these forums that has two of the same guitar, one with Dimarzio Passives, the other with EMG's.

Were all stating facts, if you refused to gain any knowledge from it then to bad for you.

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Washburn Dime - EMG 81
Washburn Dime - X2N

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That plywood guitar isent quite the same as your Mahogany bodied Dime..

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Still, you get the idea.

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Not really, I have two RG7620's.. only difference is the color and year, the black one was made in 98' the red in 99'

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are you retarded?

i guess this isnt really as simple as i thought, i was hoping you guys were a little brighter than that. i can't really think of a much more simple way to word it.

an emg is hot BECAUSE OF THE PREAMP BOOST... you can't have it any other way. it's a package deal. the fact that the pickup it's self is low output is totally irrelivant BECAUSE it has the preamp. the preamp isnt just something you buy separately, it's part of the emg.

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dont make me separate you two!

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I have a question about Duncans... I will be playing mostly opeth kind of metal on my Jackson SLSMG Soloist(Mahogany neck and body w. ebony fretboard), wouldnt the full shred or the distortion duncans be better than a jazz in the neck ?

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lol, just give up
i get what your saying, i got what you were saying about 100 posts ago, and i agree with you, its just that moron, hes a bit retarded, its like trying to teach a rock to do a backflip...