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Old 2005-02-02, 23:42
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Brutal deathmetal sound

I have a Roland Cube 30 amp. and a Boss metalzone pedal.

What settings would you advice to play heavy stuff.
tnx in advance
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Old 2005-02-03, 02:20
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ive never heard a good tone from a metalzone. im using a digitech metal master, boss ge-7 eq and a boss ns-2 noisegate sounds really good. id ditch the metalzone. but id say scoop your mids out bring your bass around 6 or 7 and treble were ever. thats the "typical' death metal sound just fuck around with it though try and get a fairly original sound
 
Old 2005-02-03, 02:53
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no don't scoop your mids
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I say don't completely 'scoop' them. Regulate your mids at the very least around 2. Remember, if you have your amp at an extreme volume ( I'm not sure how loud this amplifier in particular you have here is ), you need to cut out some of the bass and accentuate the mids to articulate your sound clearly.
 
Old 2005-02-03, 11:11
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Definitly buy an eq pedal, like the boss ge-7. It can make your sucky mt-2 pedal sound so much tighter and heavier.
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Old 2005-02-03, 18:02
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Only wiggers and Nu Metal faggotry scoop their mids nowadays... and just because you hear scooped mids on a record doesnt mean that is how they fucking play live, most of those bands who scoop their mids realize that its just for in studio, and they probably are recording at a low volume anyway because amps at high with scooped mids and alotta bass sound like dick in a dirty shitterhole. If you plan on playing live dont be a faggot and scoop your mids... if you plan on just being another dude who jams in his bedroom, sure scoop your mids, maybe that sounds "good" or "Brutal" to you...

Also take bands like Defeated Sanity, Morsgatt, Foetopsy, Prostitute Disfigurement, etc, etc they dont have a bunch of Scoopy/Poopy tone, mids and presence are really important
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Old 2005-02-03, 19:17
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... because amps at high with scooped mids and alotta bass sound like dick in a dirty shitterhole.

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Old 2005-02-03, 21:23
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Only wiggers and Nu Metal faggotry scoop their mids nowadays... and just because you hear scooped mids on a record doesnt mean that is how they fucking play live, most of those bands who scoop their mids realize that its just for in studio, and they probably are recording at a low volume anyway because amps at high with scooped mids and alotta bass sound like dick in a dirty shitterhole. If you plan on playing live dont be a faggot and scoop your mids... if you plan on just being another dude who jams in his bedroom, sure scoop your mids, maybe that sounds "good" or "Brutal" to you...

Also take bands like Defeated Sanity, Morsgatt, Foetopsy, Prostitute Disfigurement, etc, etc they dont have a bunch of Scoopy/Poopy tone, mids and presence are really important



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Old 2005-02-03, 21:40
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This should be a wall poster. With this quote. And they should hang it above the wall of Mesa/Line 6 amplifiers in every Guitar Center across the nation.

Thats a real good idea!
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Old 2005-02-03, 22:00
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I have a Roland Cube 30 amp. and a Boss metalzone pedal.

Wanna sound good with that? alright, follow these step by step instructions.

1. Find a Window.
2. Open it.
3. Pickup your Cube and metalzone
4. Throw them out the window.
5. Go down stairs and find the remains.
6. Find a hammer
7. Strike remains with hammer
8. Repeat Step #7 as long as you desire.
9. Start a bon fire.
10. throw the rest of the remains into the fire.
11. Go to the music store
12. Buy some good gear
13. Enjoy non-shitty sound

Hope this helps!
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Old 2005-02-03, 22:04
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heres my advice, fuck CC with a knife and work with what you have till you can get better shit
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Old 2005-02-03, 22:06
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Or.. Just go with what I said
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Old 2005-02-03, 22:07
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Yeh.. would would want to fuck CC anyways.. eww
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Old 2005-02-03, 22:13
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Or.. Just go with what I said

dude pull your head outa your ass! not everyone can just fuck the shit they have and get exspensive ass shit, fuck YOU can even get the xxx you want. he lives in portugal good shit has to be way overpriced there and hard to come by in the first place.

he asked a simple question with how to work with what he has, dont be a cunt about it
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Old 2005-02-03, 22:35
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Haha. Those step by step instruction posts are all jokes (obviously). I've done these before..
And I could get an XXX if I sold my current head and used some of my own cash BUT I have other things to buy (custom Warmoth neck!)
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Old 2005-02-04, 00:10
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I have a Roland Cube 30 amp. and a Boss metalzone pedal.

What settings would you advice to play heavy stuff.
tnx in advance


light the MZ on fire and buy an amp with some real distortion
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light the MZ on fire and buy an amp with some real distortion

Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Old 2005-02-04, 04:29
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..... and broke ass guys like me depend on the MT-2
 
Old 2005-02-04, 04:32
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Yeah well. Save your money. Sell your MT-2. Buy a good amp.
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Old 2005-02-04, 04:33
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Holy shit, that was like right after I replied.
 
Old 2005-02-04, 04:35
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OMG, THATS LIKE SUPER FUCKING AMAZING!
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Old 2005-02-04, 22:27
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i have an mt2 and i have it set like this

from 1 to 10 (5 is straight up)

high: 6
mid: 10
low: 4.5/5
freq: 0 / 2.5

anyway thats how i use it, my amp hardly gives high tones and mid so i boost the mid alot. works for me, but to say it sounds rilli good naw but thats the best i ever got out of it

just fuck around with it til u find sumtin that works for u

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Old 2005-02-05, 00:47
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no don't scoop your mids


Sometimes it's easier to convince someone that you're right if you back up your opinions and beliefs with facts. Just thought you might want to know.
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Old 2005-02-05, 02:11
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Old 2005-02-05, 02:48
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scooping mids is setting them to zero... which makes the graphic eq look like its been scooped.
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Old 2005-02-05, 02:55
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then your gonna suck forever or until you get good equipment
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Just keep all the equipment ( Cube 30, Mt-2 ) until you find an amplifier that you really like, and then sell it all at the final moment and put the sum together with money that you've saved to get your amplifier.
 
Old 2005-02-08, 12:18
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well.. the equipement that i have is what i thought it was best accordingly to what i could afford. I have to work with what i have.

whats wrong with my amp anyways? The distortion is nothing special but i get the distortion from the pedal and it has a real good clean sound. Has anyone here ever played with the cube 30?



Hey k13m, what eq. do u use on your amp with that settings on the pedal?
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Old 2005-02-08, 20:28
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hey ive played it.its a pretty cool little amp. emphasis on little. its a cool amp and if your starting/learning or dont have that much money its probly one of the best amps out there.keep it till you need more but save all the time cuz everythng is so fucking expensive.
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Old 2005-02-08, 20:35
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Is there anything you recommend with the boss metalzone pedal settings or is there any other pedal u recommend that i should purchase it?
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Old 2005-02-08, 20:55
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hell the effevts are boss or sumthin anyways right?
you'll probly be gettin what you already have.maybe an eq to mess with the sounds.use the whats teh rectifyer stack sound like as compared to the metal stack?
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Is there anything you recommend with the boss metalzone pedal settings or is there any other pedal u recommend that i should purchase it?


Try pairing an Boss GE7 equalizer with your MT2. Even tough you'd still have an pedal that's lacking decent tone, it'll make it sound tighter and less 'flabby'
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Old 2005-02-10, 00:49
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well if you guys call scoopingthe mids out at zero then i would bring the mids around halfway area all amps are different so in that region.
 
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Ive been playing around and i think i do actually prefer the distortion of my amp than with mt-2.

But if we should get the distortion only from the amp how do we get variety in sound? What do most bands do when they record an album?
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Old 2005-02-12, 16:27
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its called and EQ, you turn the knobs the make it sound different
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Old 2005-02-12, 17:17
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its called and EQ, you turn the knobs the make it sound different

and not all amps, guitars, cabs, speakers, rooms, and fingers sound the same...
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its called and EQ, you turn the knobs the make it sound different


wow that made me laugh really hard ?
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Hey k13m, what eq. do u use on your amp with that settings on the pedal?

euh none i have a preamp with a eq that i can switch on and off but its always off, and the regular sound of the amp is rilli low so thats y my mids are at 10
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dude pull your head outa your ass! not everyone can just fuck the shit they have and get exspensive ass shit, fuck YOU can even get the xxx you want. he lives in portugal good shit has to be way overpriced there and hard to come by in the first place.

he asked a simple question with how to work with what he has, dont be a cunt about it


*applause* i agree, its not fair to just tel someone to scrap their equipment and get new stuff. According to many on this forum, the guitar i play sucks because its a bc rich. but i like it and thats all thats all that matters. If i could change the amp i played to something better i would, but for now i work with what i got, i dont have money and my parents sure as hell wont buuy me the stuff i want, its a hell of a lot of money. SlayedJesus asked a simple question and im sure he didnt expect an ignorant answer.
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Old 2005-02-13, 13:34
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its called and EQ, you turn the knobs the make it sound different


smart ass.....

There is more to sound than EQ, u know? At least i like listen to different guitar settings that dont depend of the EQ.
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Oh im sorry, you know som much more than me! I will like listen to different guitar settings that dont depend of the EQ.

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SlayedJesus asked a simple question and im sure he didnt expect an ignorant answer.

Anyone who asks a question about their Metal Zone is bound to get some flamming.
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Old 2005-02-13, 17:45
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yes. This slayedJesus obviously commited a sin of the gear religion and now he must take a spanky... but its for his own good.


....and BLS. I didnt assume i know more than u! thats why i called u a smart ass. I was hoping u could relate to something when i mentioned the different sound settings not in depend of the EQ. I was hoping u could understand where i was getting at sound wise. It seems to me that obviously it is nowwhere since my criteria for sound is garbage
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Old 2005-02-13, 18:46
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Different woods will play a huge factor in your tone, unless your using active pickups.

For example a Ibanez RG with a Basswood body and a bolt on maple neck will have very nice low end with a nice attack due to the maple neck.

Where as a Les Paul with a Mahogany Body, Maple top, and a Mahogany Set Neck will have great low end, and sweet mids, and amazing sustain, but not as much highs, the maple top will add some high end and articulation.

two people cna play the exact same setup and it wont sound the same.
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