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Old 2005-01-24, 17:55
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Power amp???

Well now i am thinking of going the seperate pre amp and power amp route

and i was thinking of getting a Digitech GSP 21 preamp (thats right innards im copying you)

but i was wondering what would be the best power amp for a stereo 4 ohm 240 watt 4x12?

i need Extreme volume and Extreme Brutality......

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Old 2005-01-24, 18:28
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VHT 2:90:2 if you need the extra 40 watts over the 2:50:2.
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Old 2005-01-24, 21:01
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Cool


im gonna wait till innards gets his GSP 21 to see if i will go pre amp power amp...


i read alot of bad reveiws on it.....


EDIT: dead that power amp might be out of my price range.....
 
Old 2005-01-24, 22:44
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They have a high resale too. Like $700-$800 used for a 2:50:2. But imo, they are the best.
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Old 2005-01-24, 23:14
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as far as poweramps go, my favorite makers, are vht, mesa and engl.... you just cant go wrong with them... but you can go broke.

peavey's tube poweramps are also really good for the money.
something like a peavey classic 50/50 maybe? it's 2x50w in stereo or 1x100w bridged in mono. it sports 12 friggen tubes. and they're totally reasonably priced...

do you need stereo operation? if not, i know a dude that's selling a classic 120(120w mono) for only like $160 usd + shipping. that's like half as much as classic 50/50's and classic 60/60's go for.

that digitech preamp isnt bad... a local studio dude i've worked with has a couple of them... pretty good stuff. better than a pod imo. quality fx and big range of tones. capable of brutality.

if you want a really brutal yet cheap preamp... look into an ada mp-1, those things are shred machines, loaded with gain. but if you want more rythem-ish tones as well as face melting solo sounds, i say check out the 3.666 mod or the 3tm.
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Old 2005-01-25, 17:38
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Hey XDX

what about the GSP 2102 preamp?

and if i got a preamp could i hook it up to my crate and use that as my power amp until i got something better?
 
Old 2005-01-25, 21:35
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the gsp 2102 and the gsp 21 are pretty much the same....

i thouhgt your crate wasnt loud enough for you?

but yes you could do that...
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Old 2005-01-25, 21:47
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well i havent gotten a stereo cab yet

and running it through the crate would be a temporary solution


PS, Still want that eq?
 
Old 2005-01-25, 21:48
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PS, Still want that eq?

yeh, it's got use in PA right now.
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Old 2005-01-25, 22:03
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yes well are there any power amps that are 4ohm 2x100 or something

i want to totally own my drummer......
 
Old 2005-01-25, 23:22
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Old 2005-01-26, 22:53
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yes well are there any power amps that are 4ohm 2x100 or something

i want to totally own my drummer......

you could always be cool like me and sport the cs800...

2x400w s.s.
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only like $300 used

i run my shit through one side of it.. and then the other side can be for PA monitors or whateve else i need to power.

comparing one side only(400w s.s.) to my classic 50/50(100w tube) in volume, the cs800 can drown out the DIMED 50/50 before the cs 800 even thinks about clipping.

now think how loud that is... i can seriously jam and gig out of just one side of the 50/50 (only 50w tube)... so no matter where i am or who i'm jamming with, volume is no problem.

a while back when my old guitarist was ampless and i still had my bogner/hafler triple giant and my jmp-1 at the same time, i just ran him through one side and me through the other. it was great.
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Old 2005-01-26, 23:41
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could a 4ohm Stereo 240 watt cab handle that though



yes but that does sound right up my ally....
 
Old 2005-01-26, 23:57
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Hehe necro, as long as you dont scoop a GSP from me off of ebay we're cool. I'm actually probably going to go with matts exact setup, save his shitty poweramp. The poweramp ill probably be getting will either be a carvin DCM 600 or Carvin DCM 1000-1015. Not sure yet though, im sure 300 watts per channel is fine, but having an extra 15 band graphic might be cool too.
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Old 2005-01-27, 14:39
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could a 4ohm Stereo 240 watt cab handle that though

i'd say yes because the nice thing about having such a powerful poweramp, you don't really need to turn it up very much. especially if you were to run both sides. sometimes i run it with a 300w g12t-75 cab, and sometimes i run it with a 600w eminence swamp thang cab...

the most i've ever needed to turn this thing up was about 10-11 o' clock, and that was jamming with a dimed 5150 halfstack, a 350w 8x10 bass rig, a drummer that's loud as fuck with a mic'd kick drum, and a big PA(2 18" subs,4 12" floor monitors, 2 12" straight monitors).

you should be alright.
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Old 2005-01-28, 00:41
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right on

well getting a new cab is kind of iffy now, im not sure if my american relatives can ship it anymore....but it could go either way at this point...

anyways if i cant get a new cab, im just gonna keep my yahama 8 ohm mono cab and buy a digitech or ada preamp, sell my crate head and buy a power amp

and i might have to resort to a shitty wood rack case
 
Old 2005-01-28, 00:43
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Hehe necro, as long as you dont scoop a GSP from me off of ebay we're cool. I'm actually probably going to go with matts exact setup, save his shitty poweramp. The poweramp ill probably be getting will either be a carvin DCM 600 or Carvin DCM 1000-1015. Not sure yet though, im sure 300 watts per channel is fine, but having an extra 15 band graphic might be cool too.

thats awesome man

i almost have a bad feeling about these GSP's but then i listen to and time begins and realize how much they must rule


but im gonna wait for your word on them first
 
Old 2005-01-28, 00:46
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Yeah dude, ill pass the word along to you guys for sure... but I'll also be building my rack up, Sonic maximizer, 30 band eq, all that jazz.
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Old 2005-01-28, 00:52
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cool....


unfortunatly it looks like the bar band i was going to be in may not work anymore which means not NEAR as much money for gear (fuck)


anyways maybe ill have to get off my ass and get a job.....
 
Old 2005-01-28, 01:19
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yeah, ill have to get a job too...

In other news, I am in severe discomfort because i just shaved my nuts, and they itch like motherfucker.
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Old 2005-01-28, 21:10
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wow.....i probly shouldnt ask, but why?
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I wish I had a reason for it... Well, I was bored, and I don't really like body hair anyway. But I'm fucking paying for it now, so never again.
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Old 2005-01-28, 22:33
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I wish I had a reason for it... Well, I was bored, and I don't really like body hair anyway. But I'm fucking paying for it now, so never again.

i had a similar experience... i wasnt going to trust myself with a razor to shave my ass and crotch. and beard trimmers don't get close enough... so i tried some of that nair type shit my sister used on her legs... holy shit, i had a painful rash for like a week... i didn't even dare masturbate.
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i had a similar experience... i wasnt going to trust myself with a razor to shave my ass and crotch. and beard trimmers don't get close enough... so i tried some of that nair type shit my sister used on her legs... holy shit, i had a painful rash for like a week... i didn't even dare masturbate.


Oh man, I'd use a razor before that shit... Although getting icy hot down there can be equlled to being shot with a 9mm hand gun. Yeah, I haven't beat it in 3 months so I don't really have to worry, it just itches like fuck and theres a rash down there... Fuck.

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Old 2005-01-29, 01:46
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hey what do you guys think of the behringer V amp?

i really like the tone on the sleep terror stuff i heard (lets not make this thread into a sleep terror arguement) and ive heard good things about those fuckers

but it sounds like it would go to total shit at high volumes or something....
 
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hmmm, it might, I'd check it out at your local music store.
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Old 2005-01-29, 12:38
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hah

i soppose there MAY be one somewhere on PEI
 
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But having an extra 15 band graphic might be cool too.

Go with a 31 band. the dbx 231 is a dual 31 and only about $190 and then you can run the monitors through one channel and the cabs through the others.
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Old 2005-01-29, 20:34
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Im gonna get an Alesis M-EQ230, but if I got this power amp, it has 2 15 bands built into it, so id have ultimate contour control.
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