Ive seen a few people talking about it in some random threads but just little things. How many of you can accually do this technique and how many of you accually use it in your playing. I am currently learning how to do it and it seems pretty easy to get used to.

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I can do it with my right foot to a reasonably degree if accuracy, but only with my shoes off, I need to leanr how to do it with my right foot and how to do a sustained heel toe double troke bass drum roll.

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I can play heel-toe quite comfortably in both feet, but I don't use it. Note that I don't play too fast yet either, I might never be able to play heel toe up to BM speed.

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I would suggest practicing it more often. You can come up with some sick rythms that no one will have any idea how you are doing it.

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Working on it.
At the moment I could do on foot blast at 210 but not as tight as it should.
Also double bass. Maybe at about 210...but not tight enough .
So if I go more fast i have to use both feet.
So I´m working on it but I dont think that my practice DP is made for playing on those speeds.

can anyone actually do it playing at thrash speed?, two hits inbetween each snare, i cant do it heel/toe, but with an axis single pedal i can almost do it with just the toe

Axis pedals are good

*strokes his long boards*

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i personally think heel toe is kinda pointless. if you have enough desire to play fast on the db just keep practicing single notes and keep going faster and faster. with the normal stroke (heh...stroke) you can get amazing control and not have to focus too much just on your feet. although i suppose heel toe can give you some cool beats and stuff, but nothing you couldnt do without it.

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yeah, im gonna upgrade it to longboard one of these days.

i just downtune my mounted tom, get a good role off it with my left hand and foot and get very basic double bass sounds. ive kinda gave up learning the heel toe stuff.

has anyone tried the heel toe double pedal? ive only seen pictures of it

You mean playing doublestrokes??

Ahhhhh, heel-Toe...okay understand...I thought heel-up...so I couldnt use heel-toe...but heel up ^^.

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It´s okay...
I just wanted to correct, that I cant play heel-toe only heel up...

i have seen the heel toe actual pedal and it really seems pointless. they even developed the triple bass pedal where you have the heel toe pedal on the right foot and a standard single on the left. idk its just fucken crazy. I personally feel that when you play with your heel up you gain sound for the loss of control. but i play with my heels down and piviot my feet at my ankles for great control but the sound is obviously that much weaker. but i can really lay down some tougher shit like that thou....its really all preference.

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Tried it, didn't like it, it had a crappy feal and the beater didn't go forward enough, it would have barely touched the bass skin, which made a shit feel even worse.

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Yes ive tried that pedal too, but it wasnt on a bass drum. The heel part of the pedal was way to weak.

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i guess the only way around this issue is suicide...or...just keep working on your single strokes to get them faster and faster...

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I never tried it. I use the toe method whenever I do double bass. I'm surprised how much faster I am when use that method instead of the traditional style.

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Damn, hardly anyone here uses the heel toe thing. I kind of gave up on doing it with my left foot becuase of the gay slave pedal transfer. Im just going wait untill i get a double bass kit i guess. I want to master single and double stroke double bass

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I figured out something cool to do on a double bass kit. Using the toe method, you go as fast as possible with one foot (right foot for me) and with the other foot go about half the speed of the other foot rolling it with your heels to keep a steady speed. It is a techique used by bands numerous death metal bands. I think Vinnie does it in Primal Concrete Sledge. Very nice.

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Either way, even if you don't use it, it's a great warm-up for the feet and it really does wonders to your ankle so it becomes a lot stronger, very useful for heel up. After I started playing heel toe, my heel up became a lot stronger and smoother. Heel toe reminds me of the primitive (I mean real primitive, as in mechanical) sewing machine pedal motions.

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I dont know, my ankle gets real weak after doing the heel toe thing for a while

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my 1986 hi top nike air jordans are far too big for the heel toe,and all the people who ive seen do it have like size 8 feet<dont know how that translates to metric>. i was wondering if anyone here can do the slide way, and i had a question about it. how far do you slide? i been trying this thing out and i think im doing it wrong, and is this effective?<i play single pedal>

The heel toe motion is alot easier to do with your shoes off. And it doesnt realy matter what size your foot is, it can still be done. And what is the slide method?

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Here is a link to a heel toe instruction video. It is pretty expensive so i got it when it was on a half off special He has 3 different packages depending on what you want to learn. Like multiple pedals or whatever. He teaches how to do the heel toe technique, and gives a ton of different exercises and patterns to get you to be able to combine doubles and singles. I havent realy done much with it yet. Im going to wait to get my double bass kit before i start practicing it. Its realy hard to do with my slave pedal..Theres a ton of info on the page and theres ordering info on the bottom.
http://www.ballisticdrums.com/

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thanks, i may order one when i have the dough,the slide way is,i believe, like the heel toe only you use your toe to hit down the near end of the footpad and slide forward to follow the rebound, im not getting it tho so yeah, its sortof a mystery right now for me

i wear a size 12" shoe, throwing a heel into the mix of pedal hits seems impossible but i'll see i guess

I know what your talking about, about the slide thing. Ive tried it before but i could never do it. I wear a size 10 1/2 shoe so its not that big. In that video i posted the link up for, he demonstrates that your foot can be any size to do it. He slides he foot pretty far and still does it in the video so it is possible. Also, you may want to look into the axis longboard pedals.

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I play with my heels resting on the pedals and have my toe area of my feet kick down... Its easy for me, I do get tired quick if I try to play stuff like cannibal corpse and Deicide, but for hardcore music, I'm good enough. So far I can play 2 throwdown songs from their new album.

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