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Old 2005-01-04, 16:24
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down tuning

how do you tune down?
i know how to do standard tuning, ya kno, eadgbe, but i dunno how to do drop d, b, c tuning

i am also going to get ernie ball slinky heavy gauge strings because i heard normal strings are pretty much like rubbber bands when tuned down.
heres the gauges im getting.

0.58, 0.38, 0.28, 0.18, 0.15, 0.11


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Old 2005-01-04, 16:30
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see those shiny things in the little end of the guitar?
they're called machine heads.
it you turn them, they change the pitch of the string.
to tune to drop-D you need to change the pitch of your bottom E string down untill its D. I.E. DADGBe

grip the flat bit of the machine head between your thumb and forefinger, and slowly turn clockwise whilst playing the string attached to it untill the note you hear resembles the note you want it to.
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Old 2005-01-04, 17:01
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How do you know that clockwise is the direction to turn for him?
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Old 2005-01-04, 18:17
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If you want to tune to drop D, from standard, you would detune the sixth string until it matched the pitch of your open 4th string (D). Hence, a one-finger powerchord. Those strings you are getting are fucking massive for Drop-D though!!! I use .056 's and I tune to A#.

As for drop B or drop C.....it is the same principal, just your guitar has to be tuned down 1 1/2 steps for Drop B to occur....and 1 step for Drop C.

Oh yah, do you own a tuner for cryin out loud??? That should be what you buy BEFORE you buy some crazy strings.
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Old 2005-01-04, 20:11
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it also works when u tune to the 7th fret. like u know how when u tune w/o a tuner, and u go to the 5th fret to match the next. well do that on the 7th fret, and match to the A string.
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Old 2005-01-04, 22:27
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detune the sixth string until it matched the pitch of your open 4th string (D). [...] Those strings you are getting are fucking massive for Drop-D though!!!


If you detune your sixth, it'll never match your fourth. It'll be an octave lower when you've detuned one whole step though, which is obviously what you meant.

I used to have 0.11s in Eb and E, and they were from as stiff as I'd like them to be for picking. For fingering they were slightly on the stiff side of things. I decided I'd be better of conforming on this particualr issue though, since my status as local guitar god would be lost if I'd play like shit on anyone else's guitar...

And I'm not really angry or anything, I'm just bored and tired. So don't take this too personally.
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Old 2005-01-05, 20:00
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see those shiny things in the little end of the guitar?
they're called machine heads.
it you turn them, they change the pitch of the string.
to tune to drop-D you need to change the pitch of your bottom E string down untill its D. I.E. DADGBe

grip the flat bit of the machine head between your thumb and forefinger, and slowly turn clockwise whilst playing the string attached to it untill the note you hear resembles the note you want it to.


ok, so are you saying that in order for me to tune to drop-d, i need to tune my strings to the following: DADGBE ?

if that is the case, what would i tune my guitars to if i wanted to do drop-c or b? :S
sorry i am really confused and im new to this whole tunning thing.

o yea, and btw, my machineheads are matt black...not shiny

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Oh yah, do you own a tuner for cryin out loud??? That should be what you buy BEFORE you buy some crazy strings.


yes...i do have one...well actually 3...dont ask why...long story...


my fave is a korg chromatic tuner, aint expensive but it does the job and looks cool

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Old 2005-01-05, 20:30
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ok you have this thing called concert pitch
EADGBe
most guitars are tuned to this in the poprockclassical world.
then you can tune it up or down.
hendrix, for example tuned down one semitone so Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Bb, Eb.
arch enemy tune C, F, Bb, Eb, G, c
another common tuning is D, G, C, F, A, D
then some bloke thaught it would be a good idea to tune the bottom E string down a step to D so D, A, D, G, B, e
this is often called drop-D tuning. its used in a lot of metal songs,
and allows you to play guitar with one finger if you want.
i would imagine drop-C would be C, G, C, F, A, D
i e whole guitar down one step and then the low D string down again.
of course you can tune your guitar to anything you want

"he played his guitar in a very strange way,
every string was tuned to A ... Nearly" - fred wedlock.


edit: and yes those strings you got are far too thick for anything higher than C to c
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Old 2005-01-05, 23:50
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i play in C# with earny ball 0.9 works fine for me
 
Old 2005-01-06, 14:51
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you're in C# with 9s? I don't like going lower than D with 10s, I find it too flappy.

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i am also going to get ernie ball slinky heavy gauge strings because i heard normal strings are pretty much like rubbber bands when tuned down.


This depends on how far you are planning to go.
For E standard I would say 9s or 10s, same for drop D.
I like 10s for Eb (or drop C#) and they are fine in D (and I assume drop C but I have never tried).
If you're getting 11s I wouldn't go above C# (which I think someone already said)
 
Old 2005-01-06, 15:16
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ok you have this thing called concert pitch
EADGBe
most guitars are tuned to this in the poprockclassical world.
then you can tune it up or down.
hendrix, for example tuned down one semitone so Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Bb, Eb.
arch enemy tune C, F, Bb, Eb, G, c
another common tuning is D, G, C, F, A, D
then some bloke thaught it would be a good idea to tune the bottom E string down a step to D so D, A, D, G, B, e
this is often called drop-D tuning. its used in a lot of metal songs,
and allows you to play guitar with one finger if you want.
i would imagine drop-C would be C, G, C, F, A, D
i e whole guitar down one step and then the low D string down again.
of course you can tune your guitar to anything you want

"he played his guitar in a very strange way,
every string was tuned to A ... Nearly" - fred wedlock.


edit: and yes those strings you got are far too thick for anything higher than C to c


thankx man, that really helps, love you!!!

btw, what size strings do you recomend me getting?
 
Old 2005-01-06, 15:32
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i use 10 - 52s (ernie ball red packet) an tune D - d.
save up money, get a paper round and buy lots of different strings then decide what particular brand of " i tune down to be the heaviest mutha fucka alive " you want. then mess around.
heavier tighter strings work better for tights rythum riffs, where lighter thinner strings make your fingers work faster with those blitzin' leads.

and thanks, i love me too
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Old 2005-01-06, 22:53
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al i do is practicing my solos skills and losse strings help me a lot on getting those rilli fast fucking hammer and pulls.

i like loose strings but im just a weird guy so nvm me
 
Old 2005-01-07, 13:49
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i use 10 - 52s (ernie ball red packet) an tune D - d.
save up money, get a paper round and buy lots of different strings then decide what particular brand of " i tune down to be the heaviest mutha fucka alive " you want. then mess around.
heavier tighter strings work better for tights rythum riffs, where lighter thinner strings make your fingers work faster with those blitzin' leads.

and thanks, i love me too


ah cool, work is paying me soon so i can do that when i get paid, i was thinking of the ernie ball beefy set, are they good?

o yea, btw, im 16 nearly 17 and im still a student in the uk, and guess what...the school, well more like the gov pay the children to go to school. no lies. i swear to god. they pay them to continue after highschool instead of getting a job. i get a weekly payment of £30 into my bank...thats roughly about $60 or $70 cad.
pretty cool eh:P

wait im going off topic...yea so what other makes are there along with ernie ball?

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Old 2005-01-07, 16:26
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i play in C# with earny ball 0.9 works fine for me

???? Why?
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Old 2005-01-07, 16:39
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like i said above, it lets me play my fast fucking solo parts easier, and i have a sensitive hand so i dont pul up strings by accident unles i weant to, also.. im to lazy to buy other string, ive tryd like a lot of strings and combinations with thickness and tunings ansd this feels nice to me

sry for beiing a weird idiot
 
Old 2005-01-07, 16:46
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No need to say sorry

Hell if it works for you, then do it. I just could not manage with strings that thin.
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Old 2005-01-07, 18:32
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like i said above, it lets me play my fast fucking solo parts easier, and i have a sensitive hand so i dont pul up strings by accident unles i weant to, also.. im to lazy to buy other string, ive tryd like a lot of strings and combinations with thickness and tunings ansd this feels nice to me

sry for beiing a weird idiot
i used to play 9-42 in C# and it worked just fine. Where do you live that sucks that bad?
 
Old 2005-01-07, 20:40
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in live in holland, in 5 years its going to be new bagdad or sumtin
all those goddamn muslinms, sry for beiing like this but its the way it is out here.

ive been thinking of moving to iceland my mate gonna move back there so, i wanna go with him

anyway
 
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in live in holland, in 5 years its going to be new bagdad or sumtin
all those goddamn muslims, sry for beiing like this but its the way it is out here.
im not a racist but they give me no choice, anyway im not gonna bother u peeps with this shit

C# with 09 rules
 
Old 2005-01-09, 23:21
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the school, well more like the gov pay the children to go to school. no lies. i swear to god. they pay them to continue after highschool instead of getting a job. i get a weekly payment of £30 into my bank...thats roughly about $60 or $70 cad.
pretty cool eh:P


You fucker, I heard about that, but I never got in on it, I think I missed it by a year or so - now my education costs about £3500 a year. nice.

Decide on a tuning, or range of tuning you are most likely to play in before you buy strings.

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