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Old 2004-12-18, 16:09
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jazz and extreme metal drumming

is it just me or does it seem like extreme metal is made up of jazz drummers who got tired of playing slow?

Flo Mounier
Gene Hoglan
Sean Reinert
Hellhammer
Richard Christy
Trym Torson
so on.....

also, polyrythm blast-beats - greatest thing ever invented
 
Old 2004-12-18, 22:34
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Jazz is the most extreme form of drumming as far as technique goes Metal is more about raw power and speed than technique, which is why when you get a Jazz drummer playing metal you get an incredible sound hence why a lot of metal drummers are Ex Jazz because of the awesome sound you get.

and yes Polyrhythmic blast beats are Kvlt azz Fukk shame I can't play them.....
 
Old 2004-12-18, 22:55
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What are polyrhythmic blast beats?
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Old 2004-12-19, 05:10
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Old 2004-12-19, 05:54
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its funny how linked jazz and metal really are, when delved deep into the idea with a racial mindset. Jazz originated in the 1920s and 30s during the depression, and was primarily an african american artform. to this day, it is primarily african american, though to a far less extent than at its conception. now, to metal. all metal drumming has some jazz in it, regardless of any circumstances. frequent use of cymbals comes from jazz, faster drumming is a jazz technique.... shit, drumming as a whole basically comes from jazz when you think about it. now, the heaviest racial irony. the lack of afircan americans in the world of heavy metal is ridiculous, when they themselves are to thank for the wonderful thing we call drumming. if not as a whole, then most certainly for the styles we all enjoy.
 
Old 2004-12-19, 21:52
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In NZ we Have Corpse Feast, an all Maori (the indigenious people of NZ, allthough there is a lot of murk around that, but I shan't go into it) Death metal band.

pretty fucking good too!
 
Old 2004-12-20, 11:52
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Um... God Forbid? There are black people in metal, but I don't know about any Asian people in metal. Metal is dominated by white men. Women in metal aren't as rare, but I really want to see a hot asian chick in a metal band, that would be so cool
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Old 2004-12-20, 12:44
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but I don't know about any Asian people in metal. Metal is dominated by white men.

thats a very wrong AND a racist notion !!! indonesia, singapore and japan have a good underground scene !!!
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Old 2004-12-20, 17:34
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thats a very wrong AND a racist notion !!! indonesia, singapore and japan have a good underground scene !!!


I agree with you.

metal with jazz: "COPROFAGO" i like it a lot.Its not extremist, but its cool
 
Old 2004-12-21, 03:39
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X japan

Herman Li from Dragon force,

they are off the top of my head, I have an asian mate who knows shit loads of extreme asian bands, I also need him to burn me some Korean death metal, but he never does!!!
 
Old 2004-12-22, 23:50
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You forgot the best Japanese band ever, Sigh.
 
Old 2004-12-23, 01:18
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Defiled are from Japan, they're ok
 
Old 2004-12-23, 01:49
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I dont know of any asian death metal bands. Sounds intresting.
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Old 2004-12-23, 03:19
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i know of many but all the members are gay and proud of it.it gets them more publicity also.i now some girls who can get you some pretty good stuff.
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Old 2004-12-23, 04:52
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Old 2004-12-24, 18:24
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I dont know of any asian death metal bands. Sounds intresting.
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Old 2004-12-24, 22:31
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Intresting. I didnt know Death Angel was asian. This thread is definatly closed soon.
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Old 2004-12-31, 20:43
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you guys should check out encyclopediamettalium.com they list bands by name, country, genre usually all metal. black,death,grind metal bands from iran, isreal,pakistan,indonesia,brazil,china,korea even algeria,just about every industrialized or developing nation, they link out the band's site if one exists, its a real trip to see how influential genre defining bands can be
 
Old 2005-01-07, 14:44
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Somebody knows Images of despair?
They Mix death metal with jazz...kinda cooool.
 
Old 2005-01-29, 22:07
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or its the fact that A, jazz is whats avaliable in highschool and college, not death metal or hardcore or B, jazz is one of the most important genres to learn.. all professional drummers try to learn jazz eventually
 
Old 2005-01-29, 23:32
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i always wondered what buddy rich or the last of the big 50's 60's era jazz drummers thought about grind or metal drumming, if they were even aware
 
Old 2005-01-30, 19:22
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My Drumteacher is a "hardcore jazzplayer" he plays in a few jazzbands (and other styles...), and everytime I give him a cd from me (like necrophagist), he finds it awesome.
 
Old 2005-01-30, 19:51
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jazz is great because it hones your timing skills, ride skills and tames your ear.. the drummer for dillinger is a jazz teacher, he uses some jazz ride patterns in some of their songs.. good stuff, and when budyd rich was around there was no such thing as hardcore or the metal like today.. metal started in the 80s i believe
 
Old 2005-01-30, 19:59
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I wanna start learning jazz...but I have no time at the moment...I have to prove my Blastbeats and bassdrumtechnique.
But if I could I would put some more jazz in my drumming. (Im playing in a black/death metal band)
 
Old 2005-01-30, 23:20
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buddy rich was alive until recently, i think he died like 7 years ago? maybe longer, grind was definately around then tho, Altho alot most obscure than now. necrophagist is good, i just looked them up, i bet any jazz drummer would be hard pressed to make sense of that. the dillinger guy uses mostly thrash if you listen closer, the grind parts are alittle weak on the first couple tracks, not talking shit,the guy rules, but he sounds like he learned jazz first,grind second, aint nothing wrong with that tho
 
Old 2005-02-20, 20:16
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only black metal drummer i can think of is mike smith from suffocation. damn hes good...

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