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I'm going to see them in April, and I've had None So Vile for approximately two years. I want to become more familiar with them. In what order should I get the rest of their stuff?
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I liked their stuff with Lord Worm alot better (so, their first two albums)
the music of Whisper Supremacy and And Then You'll Beg is better produced but just doesn't have that morbid feel to it like None So Vile - that's one of my favourite albums of all time. oh and Mike DiSalvo got on my nerves!! good thing the Lord is back!!
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They are my favorite band, this is the order you should buy them next:
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Never heard of 'em...
Buy And Then You'll Beg and listen to it in a darkened room for a week. Don't even leave to eat or defecate - shit your pants and eat that if you have to. As good as None So Vile is, I guarantee that you will never again say that it is better than And Then You'll Beg if you give the latter the time and attention that it thoroughly deserves.
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John couldn't be more correct. And Then You'll Beg is a fantastic album..but you've really got to look at it's underlying form. Its definatly not an ablum for those that have a Romantic approach to things. The ablum is amazingly innovated and don't expect it to be anything like None So Vile.
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Never heard of 'em...
Buy And Then You'll Beg and listen to it in a darkened room for a week. Don't even leave to eat or defecate - shit your pants and eat that if you have to. As good as None So Vile is, I guarantee that you will never again say that it is better than And Then You'll Beg if you give the latter the time and attention that it thoroughly deserves.
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I'm going to see them in April, and I've had None So Vile for approximately two years. I want to become more familiar with them. In what order should I get the rest of their stuff?
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hah, ive had none so vile for 2 years, or longer, as well and have yet to get another one. not that i was dissappointed, just havnt done it and dont know why. Ill possibly choose the next album based on opinions in this thread as well. And then youll beg is sounding interesting. |
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Everyone is forgeting about None So LIVE, it's their only live album and it's quite good.
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I just realized that also.
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I think with Cryptopsy you have to buy their albums chronologically as each release is an extension of the previous. The way they have evolved over the last decade will then appear more seemless and it will make more sense. I used to think like a lot of the 'None So Vile camp' until the good Mr Darko persuaded me to give And Then You'll Beg another listen, another chance if you will.
Sometimes it takes a change of perspective to truly appreciate an album and since you can approach an album from any perspective that you want, you will get something different out of the experience on each occasion. This is only possible with music as challenging as that found on albums such as And Then You'll Beg and Calculating Inifinity: musically linear albums just don't offer the scope for interpretation
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Which one are you talking about? regardless, don't you only have Whisper Supremacy? Oh shit I think I just answered my own question.
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Good lad. Just be warned, Mikes vocals are even more "hardcoreish" on this one. It shouldn't make a whole lot of difference though.
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Nile keep getting better and better: Horus only knows what they'll churn out (from the maelstrom) this year. Needless to say it will leave our aural perception in, er, ruins and will bury us under eternal oceans of sand with it's grandiose heaviosity. OK, I'm done with the puns.
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Even if this doesn't surprise me, i think everybody expected that to happen since this summer, it still sad to learn that Jon Levasseur officially quit Cryptopsy.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bl...ewsitemID=32273
I wonder what's next for him. Talented as he is, it will be interesting to hear
what is his next musical direction since it's obvious that it won't be metal.
Flo told me that Dan Mongrain will fill the spot and still go on with Martyr.
They'll probably announce it in a week.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD DAMMIT! That really blows!
Mongrain is a great choice for a fill in though.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD DAMMIT! That really blows!
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Even if this doesn't surprise me, i think everybody expected that to happen since this summer, it still sad to learn that Jon Levasseur officially quit Cryptopsy.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bl...ewsitemID=32273
I wonder what's next for him. Talented as he is, it will be interesting to hear
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I can't fucking believe this. This has completely ruined my day, I'm really, really, pissed off. Cryptopsy can't be the same without him.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
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Jeez... Jon is Cryptopsy to me. Ah fuck. This is probably the worst possible news that could break, especially with the new album out this year.
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To many, Cryptopsy mainly means Florent Mounier.
To me, Cryptopsy means Jonathan Levasseur just as much. These guys were the duo from hell, their styles suited each other perfectly. As optomistic as I'd like to be, I don't think anyone can write to Flo's drumming as well as Levasseur.
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hey tim, lord worm stilled helped write some lyrics on "whisper supremacy" which is of course the first album without him, maybe jon will still help write some riffs occasionally
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We would like to begin this update by wishing Jon Levasseur all the best for his future plans and goals. You are an innovator and will remain a true friend. Thank you for your talented contribution to the next album.
2005 will be a big year for us. First, you can have a look at our updated “Back to the Worm” 2005 US tour. Come and check out the band live with Lord Worm back at the helm. Once more, Dan Mongrain (Martyr) will fill in as second guitarist for these shows. Three shows will also be held in Canada this spring.
The recording of the Fifth Album will take place during the summer months of 2005 and the release date will be confirmed thereafter. Each song has a very unique identity and some of the material is a progression from what you’ve heard from Cryptopsy in the past. The Album concept has a very distinct beginning and end. Here are some titles to perk your curiosity: 1.Carrionshine 2.Adeste Infidelis
Look for the anticipated instructional drum video from Flo Mounier to come out this summer. A web site will be launched this spring to give you more specific infos on the DVD’s content and how to order it.
Also, you can now order some of the few remaining Canada 2004 Tour shirts via our web site's merchandise section (in the long sleeve shirts category).
We want to keep you informed, updated and part of the team. Our goal this year and for the future is to make things happen in order to satisfy your Extreme Needs.
See you on tour!!!
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2. Those track titles reek of LordWormness. This makes me very happy.
3. Only a few more months until that fucking Flo Drum video comes out.  I'll be getting it, and I'm not even a drummer.
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Imagine this band:
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hmm cryptopsy live....
i downloaded some video clips and it wasnt amazing.
Theyre albums are but, well live, all i could hear was drums and singing... i couldnt even recognise what song it was!. dont get me wrong, Cryptopsy are one of my favourites, and hopefully i just got a bad apple with the whole shit live sound thing./
i know most bands arent as great live as stupdio but that was just terrible..... or am i misunderstood?
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2005-02-24, 07:59
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Well if you're talking about that White Worms live clip, then I agree. But I don't think that would have been exactly how they sounded if you were at that particular gig.
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2005-02-26, 11:39
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yeah, i just downloaded a different video and sounds much better.
the new song is cool, ill get the new album.
BUT: holy shit the drummer: holy shit. HOLY SHIT he absolutely fucking rips. does some screaming too. insane
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2005-02-26, 12:02
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No shit sherlock. Please refer to him as FLO MOUNIER in the future.
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2005-02-26, 12:04
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yes but seriously, some drummers are so overrated (e.g travis barker, lars ulrich) and Flo Mounier is a deity
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2005-02-26, 12:22
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Zabek from Yattering is even better in my opinion. But chances are you won't see the DVD. Try and find it, you will be blown away by the skill and windmills.
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