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Old 2004-12-06, 06:33
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Post Mayhem go back in time

Don't know if this has been done, couldn't be bothered to check all the pages , but it's official that Maniac has left Mayhem! Also, the person replacing him is Attila. Talk about going back in time. Now all they need to do is get a better, more down to earth, guitarist.
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Old 2004-12-06, 19:50
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im not a huge mayhem fan but this is great news MANIAC SUCKED!!
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Old 2004-12-06, 20:19
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Old 2004-12-06, 20:45
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Isn't Mayhem that band who's members killed eachother to see who could be more evil?
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Old 2004-12-06, 20:54
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Isn't Mayhem that band who's members killed eachother to see who could be more evil?



Dont forget brain munching and making a necklace out of skull fragments. Evil? No.. Troo and KVLT? Yes...
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Old 2004-12-06, 21:29
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Personally, I find that to be badass. Those things they did showed how strong they were in their faith of Satanism. I respect them for that.
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Old 2004-12-06, 21:37
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Oh man, Atilla is the worst vocalist ever, though he was on Mayhem's best album.

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Old 2004-12-06, 23:21
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Personally, I find that to be badass. Those things they did showed how strong they were in their faith of Satanism. I respect them for that.


WTF? That stupid shit has absolutely nothing to do with Satanism.
Also take into consideration that punishment in Norway is less than a slap on the wrist compared to other countries.
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Old 2004-12-06, 23:32
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i heard already before, but i'm happy to be reminded and to properly go back in time, they'll need to do that and kill count grishnackh so euronymous never died.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY DO THAT.

but this is good news, maybe 2008-2009 will bring us a quality new mayhem album?
 
Old 2004-12-07, 00:43
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The'yre not Satanists? Some idiot told me they were and I was obviously foolish to listen to them, sorry. I don't know very much about satanism either way, though. I only read a small portion of the Satanic Bible that had to do with the black mass ritualae.
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Old 2004-12-07, 00:46
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Old 2004-12-07, 00:48
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The'yre not Satanists? Some idiot told me they were and I was obviously foolish to listen to them, sorry. I don't know very much about satanism either way, though. I only read a small portion of the Satanic Bible that had to do with the black mass ritualae.



Im not confirming nor denying that they were satanists but that has nothing to do with it. It was stupid thats all.. If some bands would just stop focusing on image and actually practice then that would cut down on all of this shit circulating around out there.
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Old 2004-12-07, 00:54
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If some bands would just stop focusing on image and actually practice then that would cut down on all of this shit circulating around out there.
Nobody can argue with this.
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Old 2004-12-07, 01:32
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Aren't they returning to the singer on the "dom sathanas" album or something like that? Sorry, too lazy to be accurate on album titles.
 
Old 2004-12-07, 04:02
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Mayhem is satanic no doubt about it. Not only that they're the most evil band ever. I remember on VH1's 100 Most Metal Moments they did the whole Mayhem suicide/murder story. But after that they did something on Slayer and some guy said "Slayer is the most evil band on the face of the planet". Did that guy even see the Mayhem segment? Slayer never comitted suicide or murdered anyone. Of course being insanely evil isn't isn't the reason Mayhem is my favorite black metal band, they just fucking own. Well at least their old stuff.
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Old 2004-12-07, 04:36
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I really hate to disagree but Mayhem isn't the most evil band in history. They could be now with Attila but I think Abruptum were a little worse. I know I'm gonna be shot down with remarks like "they weren't musical" but in a way, they were.
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Old 2004-12-07, 04:49
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Interesting, who is Abruptum and how are they more evil than Mayhem?
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Old 2004-12-07, 04:50
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I only read a small portion of the Satanic Bible that had to do with the black mass ritualae.

The Satanic Bible is a philosophical tract preaching the assertion of the self as ego, basically with the idea that the world is in a position to attack you and take things away from you. It follows a lot of the ideas of Aleister Crowley and some of those of Nietzsche and basically goes about reversing the morality in the Christian Bible - if somebody punches you in the face, you don't turn the other cheek; you hit that motherfucker back twice as hard. As the Satanic Church it basically turned into a circus show, right up to the required entry fee. Either way I'm not too huge a fan of it; it's a lot of wasted time theorizing around a childish worldview. Also, either way, it doesn't really have to do with the worship of Satan - most of these people are Atheists - except as a symbol; he's a representation of defiance and the attitude of non serviam.

Not a new symbol of it, either; just a handy one. In a similar mode of thinking we see Varg claiming that his earlier Satanic lyrics were meant to simply symbolically represent his true beliefs in a digestible form; if you say you're for Satan, everybody automatically knows who and what you're against.

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and to properly go back in time, they'll need to do that and kill count grishnackh so euronymous never died.

They need to kill a minor villain from a Tolkien novel so that Euronymous never died? Oh! You mean Varg? You can't kill him: he's not a man; he's a horny being.

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I remember on VH1's 100 Most Metal Moments they did the whole Mayhem suicide/murder story. But after that they did something on Slayer and some guy said "Slayer is the most evil band on the face of the planet". Did that guy even see the Mayhem segment? Slayer never comitted suicide or murdered anyone.

People will always give Slayer that title, even if they're no more evil than I am. Or, if not them, somebody like King Diamond. There are probably more evil bands than Mayhem (depending on what you feel it takes to be evil, Michael Jackson is), but none so blatantly stupid about it. No offense intended to their music.
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Old 2004-12-07, 04:52
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Abruptum are a project created by a good friend of Euronymous, IT. Their first few albums came out on Deathlike Silence Productions. The band was created by two but one left so Morgan from Marduk came in under the name Evil. Anyway, to cut a long story short, they tortured themselves to get the screams just right. The music was dark and in the wrong mood could drive you to suicide. It was a known fact that they drove their bass player into attending a Christian church. How could a band like that fail to be more evil than Mayhem?
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Old 2004-12-07, 05:05
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Well, not to seem like an ass or anything, but to me there is no greater sin or form of evil than murder or suicide (well maybe suicide isn't that extreme unless done in the name of Satan or something ). Mayhem's violent past contains both. There are some christians who say lying is just as bad as murder, but that's just stupid. But from what you say, Abruptum seems pretty damn screwed up so I got to check them out. I'll put them number 2 on my evil bands list.
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Old 2004-12-07, 05:16
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There was a story going around saying that IT was involved with a murder but I'm not sure if it was true. He did a few projects and there's a new one out now. I don't know if you'll find any Abruptum. Your best bet is to find Nordic Metal but that's more... uh .... "musical" Abruptum so to speak. Their real stuff is hour long tracks.
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Old 2004-12-07, 07:32
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Abruptum's "music" is just pointless audial shit, I mean how anyone could actually enjoy from it? (is that what makes music "evil"?)

Listen to Darkthrone's early albums, these albums are really good and include very evil atmospheric music.

I think that Mayhem should quit or something like that, two of their pioneer members (Euronymous and Dead) are both Dead. Both who made all the music and the lyrics back then, when their music was good.
 
Old 2004-12-07, 12:41
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Well, not to seem like an ass or anything, but to me there is no greater sin or form of evil than murder or suicide (well maybe suicide isn't that extreme unless done in the name of Satan or something ). Mayhem's violent past contains both. There are some christians who say lying is just as bad as murder, but that's just stupid. But from what you say, Abruptum seems pretty damn screwed up so I got to check them out. I'll put them number 2 on my evil bands list.



Commiting suicide doesnt mean you are evil. It means you are a pussy. Especially when done in the name of Satan. It's the easy way out of everything.
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Old 2004-12-07, 13:03
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They won't go back in time, the new mayhem's songs will be like "chimera" or "grand declaration of war" dont wait a "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas part II", only on stage mayhem will go back in time with attila
 
Old 2004-12-07, 14:49
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Decripify- I gather you're the type that thinks Mayhem should of died on August 10th 1993. I used to but look at the talent that was still left behind. It's gone now but...
As for Abruptum, I enjoy it. You have to be a little more open minded to enjoy it I guess. It's not just a noise, it's an art form so therefore it is music. If that's how IT wanted to express himself then who are we to judge.
Anyway, getting back to the topic.
Nocturno Culto- It depends who writes the music. I think it might have something from De Mysteriis' (vocalist, drummer). Lets just say that I don't think they have anything more to loose.
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Old 2004-12-07, 15:13
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I think that music should have a some sort of structure and some limits of making it, not just IT's screams while he mutilates himself or something like that. Avant-Garde is a very good thing in music, but, well some limits could be fine even for it. Maybe some people consider all audial forms of art as for music and that's fine, but I'll rather not.
Hmm actually Abruptum's De Profundis Mors Vas Cousumet from Nordic Metal was a descent song, maybe because it is much more musical.
 
Old 2004-12-07, 16:28
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IT does actually sing, my brother reckons it's in latin, a real torture way.
Otherwise, well said . I know that not everyone thinks it's music but it's still sold as a music cd so....
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Old 2004-12-07, 19:09
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Maniac was in the band before Atilla was, therefore it's actually a trip forward in time.
 
Old 2004-12-07, 21:29
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IT does actually sing, my brother reckons it's in latin, a real torture way.
Otherwise, well said . I know that not everyone thinks it's music but it's still sold as a music cd so....


If memory severs me correctly It and ALL of Abruptum had a band called Vondur. Strange shit. Total Star Wars worship set to wacky ass black metal.

http://www.darkwoods.com/black.metal/vondur/

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The name says it all , Swedish blackmetallers Vondur ( a side project of IT ( Abruptum , Ophthalamia ) and ALL ( Abruptum ) ) are back with a new mini cd featuring 7 tracks , 4 of which are covers of artists such as , Bathory , Motley Crue , and Elvis Presley . All of the cover songs remain similar to the originals in a sort of rocky blackmetal format except for ‘Love Me Tender’ which goes into hyperdrive and adds a new spin to the songs ending . Two new tracks appear , one of which makes an impression the other is fairly poor , and a English remake of ‘Dreptu Allur’ ( now Kill Everyone ) from their debut album . If the cover songs aren’t embarrassing enough , IT and ALL also degrade themselves in the albums photo shoot transposing their corpse painted faces over images of Motley Crue ( 80’s mullets and all ) and Elvis ( in full flared costume ) renamed ALLvis Presley . A rather shameful disappointing end to Vondur’s days .
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Old 2004-12-08, 00:34
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I read about IT, he was a crazy fucker. I saw a picture of him covered in blood once (i think it was him, it was a long time ago). I just remember that he cut himself to make his vocals sound cooler .
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Old 2004-12-08, 00:57
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NO, im mistaken. I saw IT on this page
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/top10/10blackmetal.html

he was number 10. I thought he looked like an idiot.
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Old 2004-12-08, 05:59
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If memory severs me correctly It and ALL of Abruptum had a band called Vondur. Strange shit. Total Star Wars worship set to wacky ass black metal.

http://www.darkwoods.com/black.metal/vondur/

^ wierd Vondur interview!

http://slayer.educ.csulb.edu/media/vondur-frum2.mp3

^ Fjordi Rikins Uppgangur MP3

"Vondur ‘The Galactic Rock N Roll Empire’
Necropolis , 1998
Lord Pale :
The name says it all , Swedish blackmetallers Vondur ( a side project of IT ( Abruptum , Ophthalamia ) and ALL ( Abruptum ) ) are back with a new mini cd featuring 7 tracks , 4 of which are covers of artists such as , Bathory , Motley Crue , and Elvis Presley . All of the cover songs remain similar to the originals in a sort of rocky blackmetal format except for ‘Love Me Tender’ which goes into hyperdrive and adds a new spin to the songs ending . Two new tracks appear , one of which makes an impression the other is fairly poor , and a English remake of ‘Dreptu Allur’ ( now Kill Everyone ) from their debut album . If the cover songs aren’t embarrassing enough , IT and ALL also degrade themselves in the albums photo shoot transposing their corpse painted faces over images of Motley Crue ( 80’s mullets and all ) and Elvis ( in full flared costume ) renamed ALLvis Presley . A rather shameful disappointing end to Vondur’s days .
Favourite Tracks – Panzer Legions Of Vondur
Mark – 4.5/10"


You be right . Vodur only ever relised two albums and they were to show IT's humourous side. They were the summer band, Abuptum was winter (obviously), Ophthalamia Autumn and his black metal act, War, was spring.
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Old 2004-12-08, 12:00
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War's music kicks ass totally, from some simple elements they have managed to create a senseless condensing of audial destruction, chaos and WAR!
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