Im probably going to get one pretty soon. For the people that own one, what do you think about it. And for the people that dont have one, what have you heard about it.

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I have played on them, they are okay pedals, but my Longboards smoke them, they feel heavier than the longboards and not as responsive, but they are good pedals, just I would suggest getting longboards as I feel they own everything.

but remember when buying pedals make sure you try EVERYTHING within your price range, and make sure you get pedals that suit YOUR playing, because my playing is probably completely different to your playing.

Thanks. What do you mean by they feel heavier than longboards? I have read that about them before. Do you mean the pedal itself is heavy or it feels heavy when playing with it. Im probably going to get axis pedals sometime in the future but i dont have the patience to save up for them now. It would probably be worth it but i cant go to much longer with the pedal i have now. I need something new!

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I have a iron cobra. I've had it for about 2 years and I like it alot. I havent played that many double pedals, but out of the ones I have played I like the Iron Cobra the best. It is real smooth to play on and I can go pretty fast on it. I would suggeest getting one, but you should check out what else is out there.

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erm the pedals are physically heavier and the feel of the pedal is heavier, eg the effort required to depress the pedal is greater than the longboards, also the longboards (because of the direct drive) have alot more response or feel in the pedal, but I know many people who swear by cobras as a mid/top range pedal

Axis is more the absolute top end pedal

axis is the only brand that i know of besides DW9000s that makes pedals in the 500-600 range.

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man i love those dw9000, but the 5000s are good too.theres 2 models of 5000. i dont remember the names, but if you get the 9000 you get both models or somet like that

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I fuckin hate DW pedals. Axis is so much better.

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^^^ amen, I have never understood what is so great about DW pedals, I mean they are nice and all, but they are not anything 'soecial' and certainly not special enough for the fuck off prices they ask, I mean you can't even split the double into 2 singles, which for a pedal of that price is fucking ludicrus!!!

Yes, that is messed up that they dont split into 2 pedals. I think was a realy good idea for axis to do that. Even if i played 2 bass drums, i would buy the axis double pedal knowing that if i ever didnt have enough room to bring my second bass drum anywhere, i could make a double pedal with it.

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that is exactly what I did, but now I have it as 2 singles.

I just got my iron cobra double pedal yesterday and its pretty cool. I sold my other double pedal on ebay so i got this as an early christmas present. Its so much easier to play fast now. I read somewhere that its supposed to feel more like your playing on 2 bass drums than some other pedals. I dont know if im setting something up wrong but the front pedal definatly has alot more controll that the other one. But its still good. Im looking forward to jamming with it.

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I used to want iron cobra pedals, But then I got introduced to pearl eliminators and i've been using them ever since...

I was just reading your tab for Bloodline and saw your user name and didnt recougnize it. Then i saw that you posted in this thread lol. I heard alot of good things about the pearl eliminators but it seems like they were designed after the DWs

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A friend of mine plays IC since 3 years and he said that the Eliminators are much better.
I´m going to save some money for new footpedals but I really have to try out what are better...for me...

a drummer I know plays iron cobra's, I've played them too and they're nice. our own drummer uses a DW pedal, with those red baseplates, and it just plays more light somehow. I don't know jackshit about drums, but even I noticed that.

I think thats the 9000 series.

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http://www.grandmas.com/store_images/DW5002AD3Pedal.jpg

thats it, or well. I think it is.

If im not wrong, all dws have the red heel plates.

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Hmmm, i dont know, but the 9000 is almost the same price as an Axis, and youd be better off getting an axis anyway.

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Iron Cobra pedals are good.... But Pearl eliminators are better..

I have an Iron Cobra. It's OK, but sometimes when I'm playing fast double patterns, the bar that connects to the right pedal falls off. I tighten it up really good but it still comes loose.

well if you get a torque wrench with a half inch drive, and a 3/8ths adapter you can get a socket that fits a drum peg, I use this setup to tighten up my Axis longboards so I know they won't come loose.

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Mhh got none of these, but Im gonna save some money for elims...

Good idea, thanks.

yeah I did after at one live performance my kick totally fell apart, I found out later it was because my drum key was totally chewed up (about 5 years of use) and so I then while working on my car had a brain wave, after a bit of searching I found a specialised hardware place that did a socket I neeeded and result

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Yeah, it's a bummer when all of the sudden your feet are moving but no sound is coming from the kick. I would expect the pedal to start crapping out after I've played it for several years. But, it's brand new and I expected better for 300 bucks. Or is that cheap? I know they can get quite expensive. But the one I had before wasn't an outrageous price and it was a really good pedal. I normally don't buy Tama hardware because every time I do it's crap, but it was the only pedal that the closest music store had. ( I live out in the sticks and it's a long drive to the music stores that have more of a selection, and I was really jonesin' to play double bass...so I bought it).

the only problem ive ever had with mine is when i was playing a song, the beater just stayed up againsed my bass drum head and nothing happend. I took my pedal off and tightened stuff up and it didnt happen again

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Thats happend to me a couple of times with mine. You have to have the other pedal set up perfect for it not to do that.

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That realy scares me though. If that happens when im playing a show i would be realy fuckin pissed. Most of the songs i play have lots of double bass so that would suck if it happend.

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Yeah i know what you mean. I always tighten it up before a show.

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Im getting a 8 peice double bass kit in a few months and i have an iron cobra double pedal but i want 2 singles for my double bass kit. I was wondering if anyone knows if you can turn the iron cobra double pedal into 2 singles. I was looking at it and it appears you can but i dont know.

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errrm you can, I think you need to order a few extra parts though, there was a thread about it on the Derek Forum, maybe a route round there will aid you.

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Thanks. Im still wondering if i sould get axis pedals or stay with the iron cobras. I know you can change the axis double into singles but i dont know. NZ, do you post at the derek roddy forum? Whats your username if you do.

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NZ black metal drummer

I am really creative!

Axis are real easy to split into 2 pedals, on a good day Ican do it within 5 mins

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Haha. Just after i made that post i was in the derek roddy forum and i saw an nz black metal drummer, so i knew it was you. My user name is DivineEmperor. That forum is pretty cool, derek actually talked to me a few times. I didnt find that thread about how to change the iron cobra dp into 2 singles but whatever. Theres a ton of pedal vs pedal threads though which is pretty cool.

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i hate to be a stereotyping whore, but a lot of the insane double bass drummers out there swear on axis.. and i doubt all of them use Axis just cause they are sponsored.. i know derek roddy can hit over 250+ bpm and he said himself he can only use axis.. Axis are to much for me however.. they are hard to find used and new they are 500$.. i can find a used dw 5000 for 200$ or less used and the dw is a very good pedal. the elims which i own are great pedals because of the choice of swapping out cams.. the red,white,purple,blue and black all have different feels and will make the pedal more for agressive playing or slower playing... whatever pedal you buy, id recommend the iron cobra beaters.. you can adjust them to the head which is not a feature on many bass beaters.. I know many many artists who dont use IC's but use the beaters (Spüg, Carter beauford)

I have an Iron Cobra and im thinking about getting an axis. Does anyone have any advice?

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try out the axis.. they are very expensive and you have a very good set of pedals already.. id only go for the axis if you play them and they are either way more comfortable, increase ur endurance and or increase ur overall bpm.. ive seen joey jordison play quite fast on his iron cobras so its not like they arent good for speed..

What area are you looking for advice in. Im in the same boat as you. Im trying to decide wether to stay with iron cobras or get axis pedals when i get my new kit. Ive still got a while to decide though.

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Well i just want to know the good and bad things about Axis pedals to help me decide wether im keeping my iron cobra or getting an Axis.

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well.. the Axis way a lot less than the iron cobras.. I believe they are made of aircraft aluminum (sp?), and the boards are way thinner on the Axis. The Axis also use a different style design.. It's ball bearing on the drive shaft linkage, so its supposed to be smoother with less backlash. If you have a ton of money to throw around, I'd still check them out in a store, then purchase them online or something.. You might think they are nothing special to your trusty IC's.

go to the derek roddy forum, theres a whole thread about axis pedals on the top of the screen.

http://www.derekroddy.com/phpBB2/vi...e58ee0cc1839820
theres a link. Its an axis 101 thread

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Thanks

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i think Iron CObra is awesome.. Once I bought one, I felt a big different in performance.

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I tried an Axis today and I think that i am going to stick with my Iron Cobra.

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so you can make 2 single kicks out of the longboard al model? thats with the sonic hammer beater right ( im not much of a drummer yet )

yes

I can do it in about 5 mins when I am very drunk and very high

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The sonic hammer beater has nothing to do with changing the pedal into 2 seperate pedals.

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i know that i was just specifying the model, incase that mattered

As some people before allready said.

Pearl Eliminator is much better than Iron Cobra pedal for fast double bass play.
I tested an iron Cobra pedal for 2 weeks and then tested a Pearl Eliminator and totally fall in love with it.
Its the greatest pedal i could imagine and i always have the feeling that this pedal is flying like a Ferarri.

I met so many drummers who play iron cobra when i play gigs
and its always like this :
he :Oh you have the Eliminator pedal , may i try it , cause i am palying an iron cobra and heard alot about the eliminator pedals.
me : sure have a try
he : drdrdrdrdrdrdrddrrdrdr
me : big
he : omfg this pedal is a rocket ! i ve never played any pedal that was so fast and comfortable before
me : hehe i know

this happens on a regular base.

When i played the Iron cobra i had the same feeling that some people allready descibed that it was always to heavy to have a comfortable relaxed feeling while playing fast double bass.

My bad, I know what you ment now. I thought you ment you could change them into 2 seperate pedals because of the sonic hammers.

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All I know is that the Iron Cobra blows my DW 7000 out of the water. My piece of shit only has one chain and is so loose and weathered...just like a 60 year old prostitute.

Has anyone played the Pearl P122TW? This is what I have, but I am thinking of buying an Irin Cobra or Pearl Eliminators. Problem is, all the music stores in a 50 mile radius don't let you try out drumming equipment prior to buying them. This causes an issue. I guess I am asking how inferior the P122TW is to these other pedals.

In case anyone cares, I had the Cobra for two years, now I've bought Axis pedals. Personally, I can play faster and with less effort on the Axis (both heel-toe and regular), but the Cobra's are not bad pedals by any means. Axis is just different in many ways, and for me that product works best.
Axis pedals are great, but they have let me down on some minor aspects... If you get EKIT triggers for the double pedal, you'll have to dismantle half of the pedal for the right one to fit. I'm still having trouble setting up my triggers as they don't always pick up heel-toe movements. Also, if you don't have Sonic Hammers, you won't be able to adjust beater angle and footboard angle separately, which is somewhat annoying but balanced out by the Variable Drive Lever (but it doesn't really matter, they play faster than Cobra's even with a factory setting).

I'm also selling my Cobras, but that's not really relevant here as I don't ship them abroad.

Oh yes: the Pearl Eliminators seem to be a good challenger for the Cobras, so I've heard. Good pedals for heel-toe also, the guy that I took lessons from played them (an older model I think).

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