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Old 2004-12-01, 06:43
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Best Metal Pedal

I was wondering what is the best metal pedal you think there is.
I have a metal zone and I totaly love it but I hear alot of bad things about it?
So what do you guys have in mind?
Im into cannibal corpse, black metal and of course death metal
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Old 2004-12-01, 11:23
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dod death metal distortion
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Old 2004-12-01, 14:24
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i hate the dod death metal.... and the digitech reissue of it.... they're so limiting... no gain control... and noisey as hell.

the digitech metal master is also a no go, it has no fucking mid control, which can make or brake your tone.

i also dislike the mt-2... it can sound very thin...but at least you can control your complete eq'ing.


i like the proco rat's, the mesa pedals are also nice... and i love the big muff's but only with a good amp and some sort of eq.
the akai shred o matic is often overlooked and so is the guyatone metal monster...
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Old 2004-12-01, 14:32
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whooo! , another thread about Pedals!

whorever, Mt-2 are fine for me, for instance, i'm just waiting to win some big money and buy a great Tube Head, but for know, Mt-2 are fine!
 
Old 2004-12-01, 14:49
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Old 2004-12-01, 18:56
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i hate the dod death metal.... and the digitech reissue of it.... they're so limiting... no gain control... and noisey as hell.


STFU FEGGIT T3H DOD DETAH METAL DISTORTIONZ IS FUCKIGN BR00TAL!V

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Old 2004-12-01, 19:18
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Hahaha, yeah you tell 'em BLS.

I personally prefer the Mt-2 chunky ass sound.

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Old 2004-12-01, 19:20
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The Boss Mega Distortion works kinda good for me, the eq section could be better but I wouldnt say its thin, just a bit muddy but what do you expect from a pedal.
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Old 2004-12-01, 19:56
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i'll go with my digitech metal master, i know i know no mid control, and no gain, but frankly the morph is just a renamed gain knob, and i use my amps middle to control it. it takes more tweaking but i get a pretty good sound out of it. even better now with a noise gate and an eq
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Old 2004-12-01, 20:16
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Old 2004-12-01, 21:38
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I was wondering what is the best metal pedal you think there is.
I have a metal zone and I totaly love it but I hear alot of bad things about it?
So what do you guys have in mind?
Im into cannibal corpse, black metal and of course death metal

If you like it, then who cares? Just, one day you'll out grow it and want something better.
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Old 2004-12-02, 00:45
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Old 2004-12-02, 00:47
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not bad when used with an amp that has a good clean... my main beef with the line modeling pedals, they color tone so much, damn non true bypass units anyways.

some don't mind, but i don't like it when i bypass a unit and it still affects my tone..
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Old 2004-12-02, 01:01
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ditto

i have a mt-2 (retired) i liked it, a freind has the dod death metal i didnt care for it, but i didnt really get to play with it too much. the mt-2 is kinda thin and you definitally cant get no atomic death metal uber heaviness with it but its still better then most small amps distortions
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Old 2004-12-02, 21:46
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Err, dumb question here, if you put your mt-2 on like 10 does it hurt your tube amp in any way? When I dont use my noise supressor I cant even use my mt-2 because its so noisy, just wondering if it damages my head/tubes.
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Old 2004-12-02, 21:57
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It will damage the tone...
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Old 2004-12-02, 22:09
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I figured that you'd say that, the tone is like Hobbs's on Pierced from Within. Fuzzy. Actually its on about 7-8. I was just curious, Mr. Smarty-Pants.
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Old 2004-12-02, 22:57
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tonaly, I like my bigg muff pi pedal. Though it reaaaaly needs an seperate eq pedal (wich i don't have at the time) and its lacking a bit in gain.
It's also missing "chunkiness" (try palm muting using a muff pedal. You'll know what i mean)

The mt-2 sucks tonaly, but it's not hard to play metal on it.
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Old 2004-12-02, 23:03
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tonaly, I like my bigg muff pi pedal. Though it reaaaaly needs an seperate eq pedal (wich i don't have at the time) and its lacking a bit in gain.
It's also missing "chunkiness" (try palm muting using a muff pedal. You'll know what i mean)

i think the big muff is super heavy with a boss ge-7... it's also really heavy on it's own, but limiting in the eq area...
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Old 2004-12-03, 00:17
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how can so many of you even tolerate the sound of crap like a metal zone? Save some money and get a tube amp off ebay. You can get a cheap old peavey tube head for a few hundred and it will sound infinitely better than an mt2.
 
Old 2004-12-03, 00:19
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Old 2004-12-03, 01:49
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how can so many of you even tolerate the sound of crap like a metal zone? Save some money and get a tube amp off ebay. You can get a cheap old peavey tube head for a few hundred and it will sound infinitely better than an mt2.

yeh, well i can stand the tone of some pedals, but volume, presence and overall tone, i normally end up using an amps distortion... though some amps do not deliver the massive gain.
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Old 2004-12-08, 16:47
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I dont like pedals, if you want a good sound, connect your guitar to your amp and set it to 11
 
Old 2004-12-08, 16:52
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Nothing beats a good tube amp at too high volumes. Thats all you need.
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Old 2004-12-08, 21:30
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Nothing beats a good tube amp at too high volumes.


except two of them running in stereo....

or 5 running 5.1 dolby surround

but seriously, any body that bashes s.s. needs to play a tech 21 amp...
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Old 2004-12-08, 23:28
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Im into cannibal corpse, black metal and of course death metal


you make it sound like "cannibal corpse" is a genre
 
Old 2004-12-09, 00:45
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cannibal corpse is just death metal.
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Old 2004-12-09, 00:48
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i know, but look at what he said. eh, nevermind. 'twas a stupid comment anyway. maybe you'll get it eventually, but if not, you're not missing anything important.
 
Old 2004-12-09, 03:35
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The new deicide album was recorded with a Mt-2, fuck that is some shitty guitar tone... anyway, id say the best "pedal" would be a digitech gsp2101 ran through the effects loop... yes, it doubles as a preamp too! whatever, fuck off.
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Old 2004-12-09, 22:23
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I agree, nothing is more satisfying that playing a sound that you like. My advice is don't switch until you decide that your sound isn't cuttin it.
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Old 2005-02-17, 05:57
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ok not having a mid control knob on the metal master isn't that big a deal i seriously think its a good cut considering the different levels of distortion you can get and besides you have mids on pretty much everything else.... i wont play anything other than the metal master pedal wise
 
Old 2005-02-17, 10:55
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tonaly, I like my bigg muff pi pedal. Though it reaaaaly needs an seperate eq pedal (wich i don't have at the time) and its lacking a bit in gain.
It's also missing "chunkiness" (try palm muting using a muff pedal. You'll know what i mean)

The mt-2 sucks tonaly, but it's not hard to play metal on it.


UPDATE: I bought the GE-7 a few months ago. I tried it with my bigg muff pedal, but I still didn't like it. It sounds fucking hostile with my MT-2 though
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Old 2005-02-17, 12:33
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Old 2005-02-21, 04:21
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I'd have to agree with those who said Digitech Metal Master.
 
Old 2005-02-21, 04:32
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My advice to you is to try out the popular pedals mentioned here. Then smash them to bits! Haha.

Are you yourself happy with your tone?

I started out with a Digitech Metal Master, but soon lusted after something more substancial. It's fine if your a beginner, but later on you'll definitely find yourself wanting much more as you progress.
 
Old 2005-02-21, 05:30
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boss mt-2 very much floats my boat, i love the sound

also, you could try a digitech metal master, they're quite decent.

fucking hell, has anybody seen danelectro's "food pedals"? it's like, chilli dog is distortion, black coffee is metal distortion and so forth.....what an abomination
 
Old 2005-02-21, 05:39
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boss mt-2 very much floats my boat, i love the sound

also, you could try a digitech metal master, they're quite decent.

fucking hell, has anybody seen danelectro's "food pedals"? it's like, chilli dog is distortion, black coffee is metal distortion and so forth.....what an abomination

I actually used the "Black Licorice" supposed to be a death metal pedal of some sort. It had buzzy distortion and a shitty octave feature. Worst birthday present ever.
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Old 2005-02-21, 08:47
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i used to use the metal zone, that sucked,
the jackhammer, not that bad,
grunge, too fizzy
mega dist, too muddy
turbo dist, turbo my arse....
i hate pedals...
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Old 2005-02-21, 09:31
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MT2 is very good for blackmetal (I can really get a convincing tone for stuff like - the good songs from - Immortal).

If you want a cool distortion for death & other stuff, try a Rocktron mAxe... Very wide range of distortions and no noise. Ofcourse it's a preamp but it's almost as cheap as a single pedal. You can find them easily below 100€ secondhand.
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i used to use the metal zone, that sucked,
the jackhammer, not that bad,
grunge, too fizzy
mega dist, too muddy
turbo dist, turbo my arse....
i hate pedals...

that's what i'm saying...
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Old 2005-02-23, 00:29
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I have a Zoom Hyper Lead HL-01. I get a pretty decent sound out of it
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I had an older zoom 505, bout a 01 model, it was more box like than the newer shapes, had sick distortion when I tuned it right, but it gradually started screwin up and just the other week died, so I got a DOD, I reckon it's sweet, just gotta muck around shitloads.
 
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Your standards aren't very high if you like zoom or dod... but if it works for you, more power to you man
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If you get a tube amp of some sort, and find that it's not gainy enough, what would be the best way to boost it? I'm not into racks and preamps and stuff, I'm more of just like a simple overdrive pedal and graphic eq type of guy. So what would be the best way to boost the gain and all, let's just say as an example if I were to get like a Crate BV or like a Marshall DSL100 or something like that.
 
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If you get a tube amp of some sort, and find that it's not gainy enough, what would be the best way to boost it? I'm not into racks and preamps and stuff, I'm more of just like a simple overdrive pedal and graphic eq type of guy. So what would be the best way to boost the gain and all, let's just say as an example if I were to get like a Crate BV or like a Marshall DSL100 or something like that.


The best way is to mod the amp. Outside of that you would have to preamp it or boost it on the effects loop. They make simple preamp pedals.
 
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If you get a tube amp of some sort, and find that it's not gainy enough, what would be the best way to boost it? I'm not into racks and preamps and stuff, I'm more of just like a simple overdrive pedal and graphic eq type of guy. So what would be the best way to boost the gain and all, let's just say as an example if I were to get like a Crate BV or like a Marshall DSL100 or something like that.


You could get it moded, but you'd probably want some colorless gain, like you said, an graphic eq would do the job, or you could get an tube screamer (but their way overpriced)
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Old 2005-03-05, 02:04
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I use my ME-50 to get good shit, but thats a multieffects panel. it has mt-2 i use that and something else for the Gain boostage to sound Badfuckingass.

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i just chain 7 dan-electro pastrami overdrives in a row with hosa cabling!

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hahah, I'm actually using a Digitech RP200 right now for my distortion. It sounds like PFW-era Suffocation mixed with the tone on Obscura.
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Old 2005-03-10, 05:59
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Line 6 Uber Metal pedal. I love this pedal. It puts the Metal Zone to retirement. You can get a nice Iron Maiden sound and a pounding Suffocation tone no matter what your setup is. A little tweaking is all it takes. I'm so addicted to this piece of fine gadgetry.
 
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Line 6 Uber Metal pedal. I love this pedal. It puts the Metal Zone to retirement. You can get a nice Iron Maiden sound and a pounding Suffocation tone no matter what your setup is. A little tweaking is all it takes. I'm so addicted to this piece of fine gadgetry.


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Old 2005-03-10, 14:29
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personally i think those line 6 single effect stomp boxes are pretty bad ass, the echo one especially.

but imo those distortions are just the same old metalzone,death metal, grunge, metal master, ect... style stomp boxes that are only acceptable if you're playing on a little practice amp at low volumes.

but then again i'm spoiled in tone.
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Old 2005-03-10, 15:40
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Yeah, well multi-fx these days can give you a nice tone if your not used to much on an overdriven tube amp like let's say, an ENGL powerball?
The only people noticing the difference between authentic tube tone and a tube moddeler are musicians.. people in the audience prolly won't notice..

multi-fx have a lot of functionality.. too bad the only thing they can't do is giving head
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Old 2005-03-10, 21:04
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but then again i'm spoiled in tone.


shut up!<runs off and cries>
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Old 2007-02-23, 08:57
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I will reply this one with a lot of respect for the ppl that suggested to move on to a better amp because of the dist channel and blah, blah, blah. Thanks really, but
1)I never had the money to afford an amp that can give me the gain that MT-2 gives or
2)it doesn't exist.

So I will replay based on my experience only.

I play metal since I'm 14-15 and I'm now 31 and still rocking. I always used MT-2 because it was simply the heaviest out there, giving the right heavy distortion. I've tried other distortions wihich build very solid, but they don't have that swedish death or norwegian black metal sound. It's more a Metallica or Korn metal sound which is different.

The problem with MT-2 is that if you play very loud it gives a lot of feedback and u have to be careful to have either ur hand on ur guitar or turn the volume knob on ur guitar down if u want to be quiet.

I play with Laney MXD120 Amp and Laney HCM412A 4x12 Cabinet and still, if I go high loud I get a lot of noise and feedback.

I tried another rocktron pedal called Rampage at a friend's rehearsal room. She doesn't play metal, but we put MT-2 and rampage together just to hear the diff. She told me it was a much more powerful and quieter (i.e. less noisy) dist, and wow, I agreed. No noise while playing very loud.

So I went to the shop and asked for this Rocktron dist pedal, that I didn't remember the name but was looking like this, like that. The point is that the guy from the shop got a dist pedal from Rocktron and called me saying that he had something.

By mistake he got Metal Planet instead of Rampage. Honestly I was a bit skeptic about it since it had exactly the same controls as MT-2 so I thought it may be just a bad copy ... but I gave it a try. I took my guitar with me (Schecter Damien-7) and played on the thing.

I must say, I was SO amazed by that pedal. It's a really impressive pedal. Honestly, I still smile when I play on it. And the best is - as long as u use a battery - that u can play really loud without having any noises, or feedback or crap. I'm really happy with it. It's a very angry pedal. Very thick, deep, distortion. I don't even use a compressor. When I plug it to an ac source it buzzes a bit though, but that might be the power supply I'm using. Anyway, I use to use batteries most of the time.

So, for the price, if u wanna move from MT-2 to Metal Planet, I would definately say go on. I've been playing on Metal Planet for about 2 months now and am very very happy with it. I think Rocktron took Mt-2 and made it better, much better.

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Old 2007-02-23, 09:27
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You're a bit hard to please if you want both norwegian black metal ( single coil strat->fuzz pedal->fuzz pedal->fuzz pedal->fuzz pedal->marshall with master volume at 1) and the swedish death sound, i.e. 5150. To do that you at least need an amp with at least parametric mids and an active EQ, and a lot of distortion, which both the MT-2 and the Metal Planet does, but not so many amplifiers. An EQ in the loop will do it too.

If you like that rocktron pedal check out their piranha preamp, it's been discontinued, but goes for ultra cheap. 99 presets w/MIDI control, active bass / middle / mid freq. / treble, tube distortion, no 60hz hum, built-in noise gate (which works fairly well), etc. I did a raving review of it, it's very nice. Triaxis killer.
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