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A lot is about image.
Image sells, and people buy. I know lots of people who think they are brutal and savage because they like "aggressive" music like Marilyn Manson and those bands where the guitarist has some sort of weird beard and knows two chords, which he plays all the time, exept in the verses, where he plays two different strings which fits perfectly to the hip-hop-rhythm in the background.
Marilyn Manson is VERY different from Mayhem and that kind of bands, coz Manson is all about "I'm bad as Hell"-image. He wants as much attention as possible, and he gets it(unfortunately...)
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Memnoch (I didn't feel like quoting all of that)-- I agree man. It makes sense. But a lot of Death metal is not art man. Even though they may right their own material...it's still pointless and repetitive and meaningless and pure depraved trash! It's just the way it is.....kind of like Britany Spears.....(even though they play instuments)
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You....agree.....with me?? OH JOY!! Happy day!
Not all death metal is good.....there's a lot of shit metal out there too.......but i was mainly just talking about bands like manson, slipknot and spears......they all want the same thing. Anyways..i said all this before.
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Actually, everybody, I want to ask you something.
When you're growing up, in the last 5-10 years, did your style of music change? Like what you enjoy?
For example, before I used to like Korn, Limp Bizkit, then slowly I became a nu metal fan with Dry Kill Logic, Chimaira etc. and then I just turned all out metalhead, because I found the bands I used to enjoy boring. Limp Bizkit
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Isn't Korn and Limp Bizkit Nu-Metal?
Anyways, about 7 years ago i started liking music as a whole. I started off with Silverchair (at the time they were starting off and were big). I liked more alternative type stuff.....like I Mother Earth, Bush, Everclear (kind of), and probably my fav, TOOL....that was about it. Then a year later i bought my first metal cd....Metallica (Black Album). I loved it. I listened to it non-stop for about 8 months. Then came x-mas time, when i saw the "Seasons in the Abyss" video on tv. That changed me. I couldn't stop thinking about it....i saw it once again a few months later and i couldn't take it......i bought Seasons. Holy fuck man, i couldn't beleive what i was hearing......insane speed, thrashing riffs, crazy solos....like nothing i've ever heard before...even Metallica wasn't this fast and tight.
Then came more Slayer albums......about a year and a half later i got into Cannibal Corpse (didn't care for vocals off the start, but these guys' playing style blew me away). I also got into Morbid Angel around the same time too.....the song "Where the slime live" got me......that solo still puzzles me, and amazes me as well. Then later on came Immolation, which probably had the most impact on my musical interest. They soon became one of my favorite bands......i still consider Slayer to be #1, but i listen to way more Immolation than i do Slayer.
After that i got into Incantation...that took a little while to like, couple months. It just kept going from there......Carcass(before immolation i think), Nile, Cryptopsy, Gorguts, Enter My Silence, Vital Remains (earlier on), Death (another HUGE impact), Beheaded, Dimmu Borgir, Disgorge......those are basically the bands i listen to the most nowadays.
That's my history of music. I never really went into the nu-metal stuff. I naturally stayed away......even when Limp Bizkit was still starting off and a small band, i hated em. Same with Korn, never liked that band. They always pissed me off how talentless they looked while playing.
I find myself getting into faster, harder, more insane type metal as time progresses. I really like what is called "Brutal Metal" or whatever...."Brutal Death" maybe. Anyways....it's all good.
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NO METALLICA SUBJECTS!!!!!!!
If you want to know everyone's opinions about this band, check in the Bands forum, and search for anything to do with metallica over the past 8 months. You'll find loads, probably more than you're willing to read.
All of us hear are tired of discussing and explaining to new-comers why we like/hate metallica. We've already said it all before. A thread in Bands was just closed today because it asked the same god-damn question you just asked.
No one really cares about this band......it just angers up everyone because everyone's opinions are different about this. So, just forget about this, and let's move on.
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NO METALLICA SUBJECTS!!!!!!!
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(no offense to anyone...he)
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And I know the "no Metallica talk" policy around here, but I needed to say that.
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2002-05-23, 01:06
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I wouldn't want Metallica talk here in the first place.
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Yes. You didn't have to bring up the idea in the first place.
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I'm guessing that should make you people happier.
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i've listend to a few songs by static-x and i must say that they're alright. but all the other ones i've listend to were pure fuckin bullshit crap.
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dude, there not metal tho there ''nu-metal''
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i guess so, but they're cover of Behind The Wall Of Sleep sounded pretty good.
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havent heard it man
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the way ive always seen music is this:
If you like it, listen to it, dont let anyone tell you different, never! fuck what they think.
You guys, i see exactly where your comin from, but if the people like that shite, leave em, dont take the damn piss. I like punk more than anything, and i dont give little kids shit about wearing godamn blink hoodies. I personaly dont give a toss, and i go listen to somthing like millencolin. I love static X, i dont call it metal, they're diferrent, they have a different genre. Just because people are likin em, you dont have to play the grinch dude.
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to come back at the start of this thread (snotclip)...it's funny, because a while ago (back in 2000 or so...dunno) i also thought slipknot was brutal and stuff...a week ago i went to this part (with reaaaaaly bad music...just about all the "heavy" nu(/non)metal bands mentiound in this thread, and eventual;y this kid put on a slipknot cd...man, their wussier than i can remember (that those kids actualy consider that "heavy")
edit: ow shit...this thread is quite old? i didn't check the dates...probably clicked <<last>> buttin instead of next page in the forum...*ahem*
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wow, this is an ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold thread!
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well, at least someone takes the pain of digging it up! Slayme would have been so proud
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I like Mudvayne, I don't consider them nu metal. Slipknot and everone else I really dispise. I don't know anyone who thinks Mudvayne is Death Metal, sadly I can't say the same for Slipknot. Mudvayne is the only band other than death metal, other than Tool and Type O Negative, when I think of it.
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well, at least someone takes the pain of digging it up! Slayme would have been so proud
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"Worst Bump Ever."
i kinda miss him.
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Even though I haven't been here all *that* long at all, it doesn't seem quite as lively as it did when I first came here, when PST and Slayme were posting.
Back on topic: I hate Mudvayne. Wait, no. MuDvAyNe.
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wow, this is an ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold thread!
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i know....i'm such a n00b
btw i was just thinking...since the "industry" is busy making preppy music but calling it "alternative" (think avril laskank)...u know...with all those preppy arogant asses thinking that "avril is sooo heavy and stuff and punk etc" and that makes them alternative....and since i hardly watch tv, and definitly not mtv, i don't know of any, but does anyone hear of any "metal boybands" or something similar? i keep wondering if waves of snotnosed kinds think their heavy and stuff...omg,. i listen to N*syncia (or something )....owait...i forgot...there is such a thing as slipknot...slipbarf i calls it
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Let me say one thing to get a bigger debate going, since I don't have much time to write something intelligent. Mick Thompson once said that Slipknot were "metal metal, we're not nu metal, we're not death metal, we're metal metal" I disagree with that, but what do you guys think (and I didn't write what he said word for word, just hte basic idea.)
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they're no such thing as metal....
haha from what I know there are these genres that contain the word metal:
Death Metal, Black Metal, Power Metal, Thrash Metal, Christian Metal, Goth Metal,
Nu Metal, Heavy Metal,Speed Metal, Symphonic Metal.
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I like Mudvayne, I don't consider them nu metal. Slipknot and everone else I really dispise. I don't know anyone who thinks Mudvayne is Death Metal, sadly I can't say the same for Slipknot. Mudvayne is the only band other than death metal, other than Tool and Type O Negative, when I think of it.
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HAHAHA! Mudvayne suck, the clean vocals kill it! But the song Dig was pretty good so my lil bro bought it, but when he heard the rest we were like "ah man, we just spend 17 bucks on poo poo" Slipknot are so wanna be Death Metal, I took the time to read some lyrics and seem death metal but the vocals suck, and why do u need a percussionist and all those other members like a DJ? waste of money....
All the percussionist do is randomly hit the congas... those freggin morons.
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like manson or not, he's a smart guy. watch him in bowling for columbine, he surprised me
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I have that first cd and i can't recall any outstanding riffs or solos from it. Most of it was pretty lame actually, they just had good rythm, like any other rap band.
The problem with rap is that it's not music at all. A couple drums beats, plucking the high e string and basically talking really fast isn't what i cal music. There's no soul, no feeling, or emotions coming from it.......music has all these elements. So, rap = fast talking singers with baggy clothes.
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Just because he doesn't show off doesn't mean he can't. He sure as hell displays little talent, none of his solos are hard, but maybe he does it on purpose. And now the new metal thing or hard rock or what the fuck ever. There are some hard rock and New metal bands i like but i'm not one of those punkass bandwagon jumpers. It seems once a band hits popular culture everone likes them, even when half of them don't the lyrics to their favorite song. But my favorite band is shadows fall and stumbled opun them. So i know there is big difference between New Metal and Actual hardcore kick ya in the junk metal.
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WHO THE FUCK CARES????!!!!
about the bands i mean. let people label as they wish, just be happy you're not that stupid.
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HAHAHA! Mudvayne suck, the clean vocals kill it! But the song Dig was pretty good so my lil bro bought it, but when he heard the rest we were like "ah man, we just spend 17 bucks on poo poo" Slipknot are so wanna be Death Metal, I took the time to read some lyrics and seem death metal but the vocals suck, and why do u need a percussionist and all those other members like a DJ? waste of money....
All the percussionist do is randomly hit the congas... those freggin morons.
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who said that a certain branch of music cant have different shit in it? so it's new. big deal. ( talking about slipknot) do you have any idea how hard it must be to get all nine members synchronized???
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who said that a certain branch of music cant have different shit in it? so it's new. big deal. ( talking about slipknot) do you have any idea how hard it must be to get all nine members synchronized???
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Synchronized? What the fuck? In ordered to be Synchronized, all 9 members must play instuments. At 2 people do what they're suppost to do. I think the other 7 are just there to come up with new ideas for merchandise.
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I think the other 7 are just there to come up with new ideas for merchandise.
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oh yes and dance, almost forgot. And, I agree, Bring Back LORD WORM!!!(Much better than Crytopsy's new singer)
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I guess some of the band members get flunked into making the masks for the rest of the band
or they all make their masks themselves, which could be an explaination why they suck so much (because they don't have time to exercise)
i heard such an funny thing about slipknot...
their so heavy and brutal and stuff, they're recording their new album in a haunted house!! bwahahaha !!! now lets hope some evil spirit takes them over and they'll kill themself
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what a cool thing to witness.... the 66,999 post yay... (and it has some occurence with bestial numbers )
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Haha. Im late comer to this thread. But thought it would be worth passing comment.
The aforementioned bands are disposable, for the sheer fact that they are gimmicks. I mean wearing masks WTF, its directly aimed at impressionable kids, no-one can argue that, at least no-one with a brain.
I dont like the MTV bands i dont follow them, i dont take a blind bit of notice, if i did id watch Top of The Pops or Pop Idol.
People who have the perception of them being METAL etc, do not know the definition, its a mainstream reaction to make anything slightly different to be controversial. it gives them more to write about in the tabloids, in pop magazines and of course IT SELLS.
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Why not? Why would you sig me saying that I hate you? I was serious there, too.
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I'm in despair! The internet has left me in despair!
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2003-11-18, 04:25
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i think that people just eat up whatever the media feeds them. i mean, anything thats on the radio or mtv will make it big, and sells for a period of time. then the fad passes, the bands make their money and its over, then new ones move in. it just happens to be the shitty music that gets recognized, its all about the publicity. if bands like cephalic carnage and dying fetus got constant airplay, they would be just as famous as disturbed and shit. but i think its better this way cuz fame usually ruins bands. look at metallica for instance, some may laugh at me but i think their stuff from back in the day was good, it was great for that time period. then they made it big and sold out and their music went to hell. then they got greedy and its like they just try to write music that people want to hear so that it will sell.
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nachos! hmmhmmhee
Last edited by shredder : 2003-11-18 at 04:28.
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2003-11-18, 14:41
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I am a tax on the world..
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You try playing in a band for 20 years, and see if you can still write good music this time later.
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Man, I get real sweaty after I wack my dong. Yeah, cause I headbang while I do, and I can't really "Jump" (haha ) like VanHalen in a dorm room, so I just walk back and forth....haha a couple days ago I was jumping up and down on my bed, with my pants down and my roommate came in when I wasn't looking, hahaha.
This is my band's page
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2003-11-19, 14:28
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that is true, but notice its after they decided to sell out that their music went down the drain.
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