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2004-11-16, 01:17
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Stupid Question #4506
What are the common scales that Randy Rhoads and Zakk Wylde use when their with Ozzy? I know that Zakk uses pentatonic and diatonic. But I'm more interested in what Randy used...I mean Randy's solos where like songs/storys within themselves. I'm more or less trying to figure out their sound. I know I can't sound or even be another Randy or Zakk but hell...doesn't hurt to try. 
EDIT: Any other info would be nice 
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2004-11-16, 19:38
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I'm sure Randy just used the natural minor scale:
Intervals:
W-H-W-W-H-W-W
Or in the key of E:
E|-0-2-3-5-7-8-10-12-|
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2004-11-18, 00:27
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Thanks Bro...
Does natural minor sound right to everyone?
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2004-11-18, 00:28
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what do you mean sound right?
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2004-11-18, 01:59
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he means do you agree.i would love to help but i dont know
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2004-11-18, 02:57
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Randy Rhoads can sound a lot like Steve Vai at times, because they both use similar, and weird sounding, modes. I remember hearing what mode SV usually plays in, but I forgot it. Randy did some awesome tapping in his solos, which added a nice touch to the songs.
I like the solos in Facing Hell, and Dreamer, 'cause I haven't heard too much else.  |
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2004-11-18, 03:13
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Does natural minor sound right to everyone?
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I know he used it quite a bit. I think he also occasionally used the Dorian mode:
W-H-W-W-W-H-W
or in E
E|-0-2-3-5-7-9-10-12-|
or at least I vaguely remember learning it as a result of a Randy solo. And I'm sure he used the blues scale a couple times. But most of it goes under natural minor.
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2004-11-18, 19:42
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yeah i think randy uses more of the minor penatonics.
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2004-11-18, 20:46
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Randy Rhoads can sound a lot like Steve Vai at times, because they both use similar, and weird sounding, modes. I remember hearing what mode SV usually plays in, but I forgot it. Randy did some awesome tapping in his solos, which added a nice touch to the songs.
I like the solos in Facing Hell, and Dreamer, 'cause I haven't heard too much else. |
too bad both of those songs have Zakk Wylde on them. so basically, you tell us how Randy sounds, then proceed to admit youve never heard one of his solos? |
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2004-11-18, 20:51
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you wanna hear him solo then listen to crazy train or mr crowley
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2004-11-18, 22:39
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They are both insane guitarists, but I dunno what scales they use, accept it's a given most older heavy metal lead guitarists use pentatonic.
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2004-11-18, 23:02
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too bad both of those songs have Zakk Wylde on them. so basically, you tell us how Randy sounds, then proceed to admit youve never heard one of his solos?
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Wow! I screwed up! 
Everything I said before is now directed towards Zakk Wylde, because he's awesome. So if what I've been hearing is correct(that Randy is better), then I can't wait to hear him.
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2004-11-18, 23:20
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Zakk is fast and is awsome, but Randy is just as fast and more musical imo
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2004-11-18, 23:59
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at least you admitted it. yea, Zakk is amazing, buy Randy puts more emotion into his playing
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2004-11-23, 23:22
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Randy mixed at least the blues, & natural minor.
See the opening few bars of the Flying High again solo. Oh shit, I'm right again. 2 instances of a C (b5) in an F# natural minor scale in the first 4 bars.
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