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Nile - Ramses Bringer of War
I was just listening to this song and I realised that the intro with the trumpet things is exactly the same as Am I Evil by Diamond Head right down to the last note. And it leads into the song the same way, but instead of a deep roar Diamond Head put in a solo.
Bit of interesting info for all you Nile or DH fans.
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The original intro is from Gustav Holst - Mars, bringer of war as i read here some months ago.
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not as good as the title "jupiter, bringer of jollity"
seriously, who doesnt smile at the word "jollity"
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[]D [] []V[] []D [] []\[] '' song.
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not as good as the title "jupiter, bringer of jollity"
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Nile = Greatness.
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Saturn's the best of the suite's. It's also the least coverable. I wonder why that is.
I always smile at two things:
1. The word Jollity.
2. People thinking something Holst wrote was written by a NWOBHM band in the 80's.
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hahaha yeah, really
ever hear anything by telemann? really pompous sounding british orchestra music with a trumpet and such. but hes actually german
......really great stuff to listen to
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awesome song
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Indeed. On the topic of nile. Blackseeds of vengence. I dunno, I think its good but its probably my least favorite of them.
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ever hear anything by telemann? really pompous sounding british orchestra music with a trumpet and such. but hes actually german
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If I have, I was unaware. Name a piece or two and I'll either realize I did, in fact, know him, or download the recommended tracks. That's an interesting juxtaposition to Holst, though, who everyone believes to be Germanic or Scandinavian when he's really just a Brit.
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Yeah, Holst was born and bred in Britain but his father was Hungarian. The Planets is an awesome piece of music - completely absorbing. Rather like Nile in some respects.
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The Planets is an awesome piece of music - completely absorbing. Rather like Nile in some respects.
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Yeah, imagine that. A full orchestra, playing some piece, and chanting BLACK ... SEEDS ... OF VENGEANCE!!!! That'd be fun, eh?
On a more serious note, it'd be really great to hear a symphonic orchestra covering Nile. I wonder how they'd do the blast beats?
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If I have, I was unaware. Name a piece or two and I'll either realize I did, in fact, know him, or download the recommended tracks. That's an interesting juxtaposition to Holst, though, who everyone believes to be Germanic or Scandinavian when he's really just a Brit.
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i have the songs on the computer somewhere, but its from some trumpet and orchestra album. ill tell you later.... but its really cool
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BSoV is a good song, but I do think it is a little annoying in a way. Still, I love Nile.
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I was refering to the album, not the song.
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Wow, seems I am the only one that doesn't like them.
The vocals kill it. Plain and simple
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Wow, seems I am the only one that doesn't like them.
The vocals kill it. Plain and simple
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Wow, seems I am the only one that doesn't like them.
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Since the vocals are probably a part of the composition, I refuse to accept that excuse. Especially since you claim to like Cradle of Filth.
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For blastbeats the orchestra could use timpani.
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I won't reconsider since you didn't address the reason I rejected it; it's not fair to negate somebody's opinion because they happen to like different bands, so I didn't. I had a valid reason, then I mentioned the fact that Dani Filth is one of the most universally excoriated vocalists in metal. I didn't get in depth about how vocals are another instrument in the composition because you seem to know a fair bit about music, but I'll do it if you want me to. It's cool if you don't like Nile - I'm not a huge fan of them myself, though I appreciate what they do - I just think it goes deeper than the vocals. That's like disliking a band because they distort the guitar.
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I won't reconsider since you didn't address the reason I rejected it; it's not fair to negate somebody's opinion because they happen to like different bands, so I didn't. I had a valid reason, then I mentioned the fact that Dani Filth is one of the most universally excoriated vocalists in metal. I didn't get in depth about how vocals are another instrument in the composition because you seem to know a fair bit about music, but I'll do it if you want me to. It's cool if you don't like Nile - I'm not a huge fan of them myself, though I appreciate what they do - I just think it goes deeper than the vocals. That's like disliking a band because they distort the guitar.
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BSOV is my least favourite nile album - still good, but the others are significantly better. To me it sounds like 65% of the tracks are amazing and the rest sort of says 'filler'.
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I'm listening to Black Seeds of Vengeance right now. Sure, the music isn't bad, but I can't help but be annoyed by the constant sound that the singer makes. He is like a bad improvising guitarist that just won't shut up. I'm listening to Unas Slayer of the God's now, and it sounded pretty damn sweet...and then that guy started "singing". Maybe one day I will overlook the singing, or maybe even get to like it. I don't know if this was the answer you were looking for, as it seems impossible to please you, let alone make a point that can't be shut down by you. I mean that in a good way. You are probably the only person on the forum who posts regularely enough, that would give an intellegent answer, rather than "That's because your gay."
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youre not alone shred, i dont like em either, mainly because of the vocals too, and the guitar is mixed WAY too low in the cds, and the tuning is just absurdly low. Dont kid yourselves, karl could afford to tune to B and sing in a more articulated, midrangey voice.
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I think Karl sings that low because that is what's comfortable for him to do naturally. I'm sure in the formative years of his musical career he experimented with various tunings but then settled on drop A because it yielded the most pleasing results to his ears. I couldn't imagine Nile tuning any differently and, more importantly, I wouldn't want them to either.
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I don't see what's wrong with Karl's singing, I think his voice gives a nice, agressive feel to the songs, I don't think they'd sound right with CC style vocals or whatever, it just wouldn't fit.
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well met then, at least you guys didnt fly off the handle. Agree to disagree?
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I posted this about nine, maybe ten, million years ago.
Y'all should listen to the whole Planets suite. Holst is great. Particularly good are Mars, Bringer of War (this is the Nile song... did one of you gits say Jupiter?) & Saturn, Bringer of Old Age (this just flat out rules, it has the same kind of grandiose feel to it).
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The Planets Suite is amazing but I'd have to say that my favourite parts are Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Very, very good indeed.
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Jupiter was only mentioned because somebody, I believe Transient, said it was better than Mars. Saturn's my horse.
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havent heard these... are they anything like the four seasons? I used be able to play the entire four seasons first violin before i quit.
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once I hated all vocals like cannibal corpse, nile, children of bodom and all that kind of vocals but now I really like it.
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on Nile related news, i finally downloaded Karl Sanders "Saurian Medidation" and it's beautiful.
very relaxing and, at the same time, haunting, like most of Nile intros.
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For the record Unas Slayer of the Gods isn't on Black Seeds of Vengence, it's on In their Darkend Shrines. And if you can't handle Nile's brutality then your a pussy plain and simple.
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so im a pussy now because i dont like nile? Bullshit, just because i dont like a band doesnt mean i cant handle them, nile bores the shit out of me.
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stop talking about music choice making you a man, guys. you could listen to devourment and still be a sissy
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