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Derek Roddy instructional video
For the people who have the video or have seen it, what type of stuff does he do on it.
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the one i've seen has him just playing...its not much of an "instructional" video. he's a madman !!! \m/
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Loads of blasting, one handed drum fills up and down the toms and he's got a snake in the background....
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as well as a masssive Jar-Jar Binks!
he mainly talks about exercises, i.e. left hand, left foot, right hand right foot, then left hand right foot, right ahand left for, then alternate, that sort of thing
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You are dumb than a pile of dog shit. Derek only triggers his bass drums due to the fact that it's impossible to make two bass drums sound the same.
You really have no clue what triggers really do.
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No I'm afraid your wrong due to the fact that I have met him on more than one occasion and he himself live only triggers the bass drums I have seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears. Interviews only tell you so much of what they really say most of it is spliced together to be taken a certain way, you can't trust everything you read.
Fact is wether you have a teacher who mic's their shit or triggers it they are still teaching you the basic rudamentary stuff. Same shit mic's are just the analog way of projecting drums, triggers are the digital way but with more options. You still have to make the motion to get the right sound. You can't argue with me on this one either my friend I have triggers. So I win.
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I read about him only saying he triggers his bass drums, but you might be right about him recomending triggering snares. I dont see anything wrong with using triggers because some drummers are so fast, they need triggers on their bass drums to be able to get the sound out like derrek and raymond herrera from fear factory. I can see both sides of the story. Yes, you can say triggers are kind of like cheating because no matter how hard you hit it, it can make the same noise. But the other side, its still the drummer hitting the drum everytime you heard a noise.
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2004-10-20, 20:40
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It's just him giving techneques for death metal drumming so I don't see anything wrong with it. He says he triggers so people can hear his bass drums when he plays.
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who cares... lets just all compromise on this... Derek Roddy will kick your ass. end of story.
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There is a different problem with triggering for volume - touch responce. What if you want to alternate between soft and loud bits but only loud notes come out because of the triggers? Triggers cut down the essential volume control, which makes the drums sound "alive" in the first place.
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then you get the triggers that enable a degree of volume controll (can't remember who did them or what their fancy name was) it eliminates the extremes, so you can go a bit soft or a bit loud but not real loud or real soft.
but in metal this is seldom required, I mean Ghost notes etc. are cool to do, but are seldom used effectivly in metal, in jazz or funk it is a completly different story, but in those styles you seldom are going at speeds, or doing things that require triggers (like double bass)
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Death Metal doesn't have dynamics for shit, and nor should it. It should be pummeling at all times. so fuck dynamics they are for jazz/fusion pussies.
And fuck Dave Culross he plays drums for The Berserker and he does trigger his shit with them, not to mention his lack of creativity.
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2004-10-21, 19:48
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hmm... start own topic for trigger fight ure all talking off-topic atm
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it should have dynamics yes... but drums dont really need dynamics in death metal mainly because of whats being churned out these days. Most of the bands around either are playing at breakneck speed or moderatley slow, there is no middle ground. And death metal should always be fucking heavy and loud, so i guess unless youre trying some experimental stuff, dynamics arent really needed.
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Oh no. Dynamics are for EVERYONE. Having something too loud or too soft might mean that instruments won't be heard, if the drums are too loud there will be no bass heard, for one. Abandoning simple things like dynamics for the sake of heaviness is stupid. Think Darkthrone and other "trad" black metal bands who deliberately have bad production of the sake of heaviness. It's not a very good experience, so the same goes for abandoning dynamics . Let's make it heavy because of it's good sound and not because of sloppy balancing.
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i didnt mean it like that. Put it at a reasonable volume and leave it there, mixing properly is good, but normally, each instrument has its own frequencies that shouldnt be invaded.
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Not necesarilly, some instruments like drums and bass (low and low mid), keyboards and guitar (mid and high) have similar frequencies which can invade each other, drums being specifically invasive. Dynamics should never be downplayed.
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fuck keyboards anyway, the only band i like that uses keyboards is emporer, but yeah, you are right, some instruments do invade eachother, but since the main instruments in Death Metal are guitar and drums, shouldnt those be loudest?
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Yes, but i hate when i cant hear the bass at all. This thread kicks ass.
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Meh, the bass is probably the most neglected instrument in death metal.
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yes
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Bass is probably the most neglected instrument in all music.
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Bass is probably the most neglected instrument in all music.
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Ya i know, you cant hear bass at all in jazz music. I sometimes wonder if jazz has bass at all.
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I guess it's subliminal, you just know when there is no bass. Also, it gets drowned out by the bass drums. Blastbeats are the major bass killers.
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This thread is SOOOOOO closed.
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Yes, it will be when The Doctor comes in for his once a week check up in the drum forum.
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2004-12-02, 22:19
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Yeah so lets fuck it up with random shit.
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Derek's first drum video is now completed and ready to ship. The running time is approximately 45 minutes. This first video contains excercises that will help you gain endurance, strength, and speed. There is a daily 30 minute workout for your hands and feet. Also, there are four exercises that are designed for cleaning up your double bass and blast beats. Each video will contain a worksheet with each exercise written out and suggested tempo for each. The video will also have a few solos for you to check out.
AVAILABILITY
Format: SPECIFY either VHS, or Video CD (VCD)**
** Playable in most PC CD-ROM drives using any player software that supports Video CD, or from within Windows Media Player. Also playable in home DVD players that support playback of both CD-R/CD-RW and the Video CD format.
Price: $30.00 US Dollars within the UNITED STATES, $35.00 US Dollars REST OF WORLD
All those interested in purchasing a copy send a MONEY ORDER or CASHIER'S CHECK only! Do not send cash. All payments must be in US funds and payable to DEREK RODDY.
Mail to:
Derek Roddy's Drum Video #1
P.O. Box 814
Deerfield Beach, FL 33443
USA
Also include your address and some information about yourself (how long you've been playing, age, drum kit set up, etc.) for my personal records! Thank you for your interest.
-Derek
Thats all the info on the hate eternal site. It was posted over 2 years ago though so i dont know.
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you could probably just email him asking about whats up with the drum video.
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you could probably just email him asking about whats up with the drum video.
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I emailed him right after that post. I'll post what it says when he emails me back(if he emails me back).
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cool then
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shit, i just read on his forum that the first video is out of print. I think the second one is out now though. Go to his forum for more info.
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shit, i just read on his forum that the first video is out of print. I think the second one is out now though. Go to his forum for more info.
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The new video is still in the work's.
Just to let you guy's know Roddy is one of my best bud's and he play's all kind's of styles of music from Jazz to Salsa and is a very dynamic player when playing death metal he usually only mic's the bass drum's as most of you noted.
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I just talked to Derek and the 1st video is still available just got to www.derekroddy.com for ordering instructions and the 2nd video will be out before June.
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I just talked to Derek and the 1st video is still available just got to www.derekroddy.com for ordering instructions and the 2nd video will be out before June.
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where do you find the ordering info
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Haha, Derek just sent me a message saying that the video is still available, so if any of you want to order it, the info on the last page is correct. I sent in a check last month and he said he was on break for the holidays so he dident get a chance to send it. He said it was mailed earlier in the week. So when i get it, i will post what i think of it.
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I now have it and will post what i think of it. My first thought when watching the first drum solo: "HOLY SHIT!!!!!". This guy is insane. I would recomend anyone that wants to improve their blast beats and double bass to order the video now.
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I just ordered the video yesterday. I can't wait for it to get here. Does anyone that has ordered the video know how long it takes to arrive?
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On the site it said about 4-6 weeks i belive. When i ordered mine, he was away for the holiday season so i didnt get it for a little later. Dont wait at your mail box like everyday waiting for it, because most likely, it will be a few weeks.
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Ok thanks.
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I now have it and will post what i think of it. My first thought when watching the first drum solo: "HOLY SHIT!!!!!". This guy is insane. I would recomend anyone that wants to improve their blast beats and double bass to order the video now.
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I´m improving, man, I´m improving .
but I dont use this rrrrllllrrrrrrrrlllllllll etc. exercise...I´m also improving my anklemovement etc.
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I just ordered the video yesterday. I can't wait for it to get here. Does anyone that has ordered the video know how long it takes to arrive?
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I am living in germany and it took 7 Month till it arrived
The Videos on the CD are great to watch and evry entertaining but the tips are not that special.
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can somone give me a link to a torrent or site where i can download it?
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derek is an amazing drummer, i should order this video...but im broke...
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go here to check out his videos (and a couple streaming solos from his instuctional video) sorry, dont mean to post a different forum link here but its easier then typing it out again...
http://metalmedia.proboards33.com/i...read=1131915315
Theres actually over 100 drum videos from various metal drummers, derek is at the top of the list.
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who cares... lets just all compromise on this... Derek Roddy will kick your ass. end of story.
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HAHAHA! Yeah...
As old as the post is.
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Death Metal doesn't have dynamics for shit, and nor should it. It should be pummeling at all times. so fuck dynamics they are for jazz/fusion pussies.
And fuck Dave Culross he plays drums for The Berserker and he does trigger his shit with them, not to mention his lack of creativity.
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Dave Culross is a great drummer. He didnt an excellent job in Malevolent Creation's Eternal album. I dont think the drums were triggered on that album and it sounded fucking great. Very intense, fast and tight.
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