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Old 2004-10-13, 02:25
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Kustom/Behringer Half stack

I'm looking at a 100W Kustom head (Solid State) with a Behringer B412H cab for $370....Good deal or is it a shitty amp? Give me some feed back on the head, the cab can always be replaced.....

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Old 2004-10-13, 02:56
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SHIT

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Old 2004-10-13, 02:58
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Oh shit really? What's bad about it?
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Old 2004-10-13, 14:09
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the cab not only has shitty speakers, but it's also made with shitty materials, half ass build quality, and it says behringer(dead give away for crappy guitar gear.)

the head, i've never played, but kustom isnt exactly a good brand name..... we can just put it at that.

if you can get a new halfstack for under $400 new, it's probably crap... physics or something i guess.

try a used bv60 with a used peavey ms412 setup, about the same cost and much better sound.
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Old 2004-10-13, 14:15
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you're better off geting used, like xDx stated.

Kustom is shit, Behringer not so good, their cabs failed to impress me, but they are cheap.
 
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Oh yeah, this shit is used too, it's on Ebay. Thanks for the feed back. I'll try to look for that bv60
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Old 2004-10-13, 20:55
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Oh yeah, this shit is used too, it's on Ebay. Thanks for the feed back. I'll try to look for that bv60

he said he paid like $490 for the setup new.... why would you pay more than half that for it used???maybe if the rig was like $250 or less i could see somebody buying it... but the way used gear works, such shitty brands are going to have insanely crappy resale.
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Old 2004-10-14, 01:11
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Yeah, it did seem like a shitty stack, that's why i asked, just to make sure. Anyway, I looked up the bv60 and it's just a combo, i'm lookin for a half stack
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Old 2004-10-14, 01:49
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Yeah, it did seem like a shitty stack, that's why i asked, just to make sure. Anyway, I looked up the bv60 and it's just a combo, i'm lookin for a half stack

there is a head version....
here is a bv50h + vintage 30 1x12 cab setup with a bonus metalzone pedal for BIN $400 with free shipping....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...3754828441&rd=1
what a steal... if you're dead set on a 4x12 though, you could resale the cab and the metalzone on ebay for a couple hundred then buy a better used 4x12 like the peavey ms412 i mentioned above(i bought one a long time ago for like $200, but sold it to make ends meet. good cab for the money.).

i also see plenty of other blue voodoo models for sale.... but the bv60 and bv 50 are the cheaper ones....
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Old 2004-10-15, 15:12
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id like to randomly point out that i saw darkest hour last night

and one guy has a marshall tube, and one guy has a peaveyXXX


the guy with the peavey is an awesome shredder
 
Old 2004-10-15, 21:58
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Yeh thats Kris.. he used to play 5150's but now he plays the XXX

he gets em for free too, same with his ESP EC's.. lucky bastard

check out his instructional dvd, its $15.. just send a check or money order to his address (found on the darkest hour site)
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hes a pretty shy guy it would seem


usually i piss all over that kind of music but i cant deny darkest hours talent
 
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I love Darkest Hour.. at first i hated them, but the first song i heard of them was "A Blessing in Tragedy" which is a pretty shitty song. So i decided to give them another chance and downloaded their ozzfest setlist.. and i heard So Sedated, So Secure... the rest is history.
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Old 2004-10-15, 23:59
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there is a head version....
here is a bv50h + vintage 30 1x12 cab setup with a bonus metalzone pedal for BIN $400 with free shipping....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...3754828441&rd=1
what a steal... if you're dead set on a 4x12 though, you could resale the cab and the metalzone on ebay for a couple hundred then buy a better used 4x12 like the peavey ms412 i mentioned above(i bought one a long time ago for like $200, but sold it to make ends meet. good cab for the money.).

i also see plenty of other blue voodoo models for sale.... but the bv60 and bv 50 are the cheaper ones....

Yeah man, they have a Blue Voodoo Head 60W for like 300
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Old 2004-10-16, 00:12
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How about this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...3754846956&rd=1 any good?
I have the 75W Line 6 Spider II combo and it sounds pretty mean, good for pinch harmonics...how 'bout this head though? worth it?
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Old 2004-10-16, 00:37
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NOOOOO!!!

Line 6 shit is well.. shit

not a fan at all, go for the BV or any tube amp.. just stay away from that.
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Old 2004-10-16, 05:01
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the only line 6 stuff i really like... the hd147, vetta I and vetta II, the pod pro xt(rack version, not the bean). the flextones arent to bad either,

but i find all the spiders are crap..... the fx are cheesy, the distortion modeling is far from realistic and usually sounds pretty fake and dull imo.. my cousin has a 50w 1x12 spider I combo.... licks balls... to go with his korny $350 ibanez 7 string....
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Old 2004-10-16, 22:33
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The second one is nice but I'm looking for a stack

Alright now, I was looking at Musician's Friend for a stack and I found a Crate 120W solid state full-stack for $700....how about that?

thanks for the feedback guys
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Old 2004-10-16, 22:47
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it says behringer(dead give away for crappy guitar gear.)


Is that true for the FCB 1010 too? What I've heard about it seems good...
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Old 2004-10-17, 00:12
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Is that true for the FCB 1010 too? What I've heard about it seems good...

those units work fine, but they're made of plastic so they arent exaclty durable.... great options and flexibility for the money, if you don't abuse gear.
the newer vamp 2's are much better than the old ones, but still not quite up to POD quality imo.
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Old 2004-10-20, 23:51
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F U C K Y E S

I finally found my perfect amp...

I went to a guitar shop and talked to the guy there and told him i was lookin for a BV and he showed me a BV6212 combo he had. I told him i was lookin for a half stack and he said i could just add a cab to the combo to which i replied, "REALLY?!?!?!?" like a fuckin idiot...anyways, I went back home grabbed my guitar and tested it...AFUCKINMAZING...The amp was used and he was sellin it for $399 (which would've been a steal) but then he starts complementing my playing and offers it to me for $350...that's when I creamed my pants...so yeah, i bought it, ordered a footswitch and i'm now saving up for a cab.....so tell me now, what's a good cab for a BV6212?

Edit: Oh yeah, also, should I change the tubes? Go bigger? what? I've never own a tube amp, school me

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Old 2004-10-21, 05:40
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F U C K Y E S

I finally found my perfect amp...

I went to a guitar shop and talked to the guy there and told him i was lookin for a BV and he showed me a BV6212 combo he had. I told him i was lookin for a half stack and he said i could just add a cab to the combo to which i replied, "REALLY?!?!?!?" like a fuckin idiot...anyways, I went back home grabbed my guitar and tested it...AFUCKINMAZING...The amp was used and he was sellin it for $399 (which would've been a steal) but then he starts complementing my playing and offers it to me for $350...that's when I creamed my pants...so yeah, i bought it, ordered a footswitch and i'm now saving up for a cab.....so tell me now, what's a good cab for a BV6212?

Edit: Oh yeah, also, should I change the tubes? Go bigger? what? I've never own a tube amp, school me

thanks

err.... $350??? for the bv60 2x12? that's not the best deal i've seen on one... there was one at a local shop for like $250 i think... but blue voodoo's are probably my favorite band for the buck amps... i actually like alot of crate stuff... they have a unique tone...
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Old 2004-10-21, 19:03
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Dude, this amp only had one owner and it was the guy who sold it to me (who owns the store) so yeah, tip-top fuckin shape. Now how 'bout the tubes?
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Old 2004-10-21, 20:21
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Dude, this amp only had one owner and it was the guy who sold it to me (who owns the store) so yeah, tip-top fuckin shape. Now how 'bout the tubes?

well, it's not a bad deal by any means, i'm just saying you probably could've got a better deal on one that had a few tears and scuffs on the tolex.. but regardless..

they come stock with groove tubes, which are good tubes imo... but i personally like jj's and mullards(especially for cleans, but they cost mucho$$$) in the poweramp section... jj's and/or sovteks are normally what i like in the preamp...
it's all personal taste. if you like the way it sound with the groove tubes then i wouldnt worry about it for a while, then eventually you might want to experiment, say a set of jj 6l6's, you can just swap the gt's out and see which ones you like better. preamp tubes need be replaced less often...
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