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2004-10-12, 13:26
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help! b.c rich v.s esp
i am looking to buy a new guitar soon and i need some help choosing. i love the idea of the b.c rich warlock series and esp's f-series. can you guys help me as i will not have the chance to play either of these guitars until the one i choose arrives (i live in south africa and will have to buy one off the internet).
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2004-10-12, 18:07
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my vote goes for the tld f series over the warlock.
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2004-10-12, 21:24
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i personally hate both, i d rather have an aria or an ibanez s series
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2004-10-12, 21:41
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i personally hate both, i d rather have an aria or an ibanez s series
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but they arent pointy 
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2004-10-12, 22:01
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2004-10-12, 22:20
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Yeh, the S in S series stand for Shit 
Only 22 Frets, ugly body, crappy trem, angled jack.
Hate it all. But whatever floats Mordor's boat
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2004-10-12, 22:48
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i like the s series.
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2004-10-12, 22:50
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If I had to go with one, it would be the ESP, BC Rich suck unless you pump out $1,000.
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2004-10-12, 23:20
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If I had to go with one, it would be the ESP, BC Rich suck unless you pump out $1,000.
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Yes, but if you DO pump out 1000 bucks for a handmade Bernie SR Warlock or Mockingbird or Bich, that would just plain kick ass.
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2004-10-12, 23:28
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ya, but i don't think this guy WILL spend $1,000, more like the general $350-$600 that everyone has to spend.
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2004-10-13, 00:12
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If I had to go with one, it would be the ESP, BC Rich suck unless you pump out $1,000.
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2004-10-13, 00:31
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I have a platnuim warlock with emgs
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Notice you said EMG's thats whats doing the work, and if you were to put a passive one in there, then it would sound... well kind of bad.
But then again you and I live in Atlantic Canada where gear sucks, and EVERYONE has an EMG in their guitar.
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2004-10-13, 01:29
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plus you dont say which jackson you own...
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2004-10-13, 15:13
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Fearfrost: yeah i dont get to try out any good guitars for 2 reasons
1-I live in pei, guitars suck here
2-i am left handed
also most avaid posters here already know what jackson i have BLS
remember the thread about all the BS i went through
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2004-10-13, 19:05
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yeh.. i mean after all im not an avid poster or anything 
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2004-10-13, 20:18
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Yeh, the S in S series stand for Shit
Only 22 Frets, ugly body, crappy trem, angled jack.
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hey dude they arent that bad, there comfy as fuck, have a real nice feel and the trem aint bad. It stays in tune wen u snap and string and rarely goes out of tune wen divebombin. But i suppose its not to everyones tastes but it still plays top notch
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2004-10-13, 20:27
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Fearfrost: yeah i dont get to try out any good guitars for 2 reasons
1-I live in pei, guitars suck here
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Don't worry theres jack shit here, same stuff on PEI just in a bigger supply.
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2004-10-13, 20:45
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you should learn to play right handed.... my guitarist is left handed but plays right handed.... the dude can shred like it's nobody's business.
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hey dude they arent that bad, there comfy as fuck, have a real nice feel and the trem aint bad. It stays in tune wen u snap and string and rarely goes out of tune wen divebombin. But i suppose its not to everyones tastes but it still plays top notch
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I never break strings and i find a thin body uncomortable.
And the trem is lame imo, you cant even do flutters with it.
but hey, one mans trash is another mans treasure.
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you should learn to play right handed.... my guitarist is left handed but plays right handed.... the dude can shred like it's nobody's business.
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I never break strings and i find a thin body uncomortable.
And the trem is lame imo, you cant even do flutters with it.
but hey, one mans trash is another mans treasure.
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Yeah, those trems are fucking pointless.
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I'd definately go for the F, really nice work on that one. Surpsiring for a metal guitar, it manages to look great and feel good at the same time. If you're talking about some basic Ltd F, it'll probably have EMG-HZ H4s. They're good passives, but you should get some kickass actives, like a 81/85 set or something. If you're going for the Ltd, buy at least the F-250, neck-thru, HZ and stuff. ESP doesn't have many F-guitars, so you'll probably go for a Ltd. But that's just me...
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2004-10-18, 13:20
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cheers, i think i am logging on when no one else is on the site cuz of the time difference or something..... thanks though. is it worth keeping passive pickups in either of these guitars (esp f-250 or b.c rich platinum warlock?)
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2004-10-18, 17:43
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is it worth keeping passive pickups in either of these guitars (esp f-250 or b.c rich platinum warlock?)
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sure.... if they're good passives they'll probably sound good in any guitar... the same way good actives will probably sound good in any guitar... but a shitty warlock isnt going to sound exactly like a nice warlock because they have the same pickups....
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2004-10-18, 19:42
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is it worth keeping passive pickups in either of these guitars (esp f-250 or b.c rich platinum warlock?)
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The EMG-HZ H4s are not bad passives, not at all. I have them on my Ltd KH202, and I can get reeeally nice sounds of it. About the BC, personally I don't like pretty much any BC pickup.
I'd go for active EMGs (81/85 or something) with both of these. But that's just me.
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