2004-10-09, 22:25
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Official Tab Books?
I'm just wondering...
Why alot of people hand transcribe these songs out. I mean ( in most instances) they have tab books availiable with the proper way to play most songs. So what my questions is, I'm sure alot of you guys own these books, I own a few as well. Why not start the circulation of the "official tab book" tabs. Yea, I know it would require adobe pdf and a scanner, but it's official, there's no "Hey dude, riff B is totally wrong" n shit like that. Ya feel me?
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2004-10-10, 03:19
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Firstly, I only own one tab book, and it's a Nirvana tab book that I got before I even started playing guitar. Seconldy, unless the "official" tabs in those books are transcribed by the band members themselves, I'd hardly call them proper. I've seen enough mistakes in tab books that I've looked at in stores or at band rehearsal spaces.
Then comes copyright problems. How are we supposed to spread these tabs? Any website that has them would likely be harassed or shut down. I don't have a scanner and can't afford to buy one, I'm sure many others are in the same boat. Also, .txt files are miniscule and therefore superior to scanned images converted to a large .pdf file. The only thing .pdf files are good for are very long articles, such as full books or scientific reports.
Another fact is that most good metal doesn't have any tab books. Only the most mainstream stuff will make these people money, so only the mainstream stuff will be tabbed and sold. I'm 100% sure that at least 70% of the tabs on this site cannot be found in a tab book.
Those are the reasons why I see this as unfeasible.
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2004-10-10, 03:22
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Copyright laws discourage things like that.
But, beyond that, a lot of bands don't get official tab books. Bigger bands do, but not always. For example, neither Cowboys From Hell nor Vulgar Display of Power are tabbed in their entirety in tab form, but are rather put together in one book that has a few songs chosen almost at random from each album, and it's riddled with mistakes. Smaller and lesser known bands are less likely to have official tab books, and most of the bands tabbed on this site are those bands. Official books also don't tend to have the sometimes detailed explanations that those done by regular plays have. Finally, it's a good exercise for the tabbers themselves, since it offers a lot in ear training and such, and though that's not a good reason for us to read their tabs, it's still a good reason for them to make them.
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2004-10-10, 03:29
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Agreed! Most offical tab books cost $20+ and are 50+% wrong. Don't trust them.
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2004-10-10, 03:36
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Quote:
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Agreed! Most offical tab books cost $20+ and are 50+% wrong. Don't trust them.
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to that respect, internet tabs are not always right either, you shouldn't fully rely on them to be 100% perfect, but rather be close enough, and if you want something better take an internet tab and use that as a basis to rethink the song
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2004-10-10, 03:41
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This is true also, but atleast net tabs are free, you can compare, try, and go from there with them. I also find that lots of poeple use the books to make it look like their own work too.
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2004-10-10, 09:57
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Originally Posted by ChrisRezendes
Firstly, I only own one tab book, and it's a Nirvana tab book that I got before I even started playing guitar. Seconldy, unless the "official" tabs in those books are transcribed by the band members themselves, I'd hardly call them proper. I've seen enough mistakes in tab books that I've looked at in stores or at band rehearsal spaces.
Then comes copyright problems. How are we supposed to spread these tabs? Any website that has them would likely be harassed or shut down. I don't have a scanner and can't afford to buy one, I'm sure many others are in the same boat. Also, .txt files are miniscule and therefore superior to scanned images converted to a large .pdf file. The only thing .pdf files are good for are very long articles, such as full books or scientific reports.
Another fact is that most good metal doesn't have any tab books. Only the most mainstream stuff will make these people money, so only the mainstream stuff will be tabbed and sold. I'm 100% sure that at least 70% of the tabs on this site cannot be found in a tab book.
Those are the reasons why I see this as unfeasible.
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Ditto.
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2004-10-10, 14:36
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i plan on ordering the Martyr warp zone tab book soon
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2004-10-10, 17:51
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i plan on ordering the Martyr warp zone tab book soon
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Good choice, got both albums tab books and they're well done and fun to practice.
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2004-10-10, 18:07
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Programs like Powertab and Guitarpro make this idea useless...
Plus most bands will be happy to tab out their songs for you.
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2004-10-10, 21:49
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Okay,
Point well argued. Didn't realize the copyright issues, but at least official tab books have multi guitar parts transcribed. I'm just saying all this for the fact that, an official tab book is alot easier to mimic the playing style and techniques that particular band encompasses. Take metallica for example, 99% of the hand transcriptions for orion don't explicitly tab out that really harmony styled shit where one guitar plays the root of a argeppio riff, while guitar two plays the 3rds of it or some shit, you know what I mean. It's the technical shit that hand tabs suck for. Anyways, issue dropped, thanks for the feedback
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2004-10-11, 02:25
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Good choice, got both albums tab books and they're well done and fun to practice.
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ah, i must ask are all the songs in drop D?
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2004-10-11, 17:42
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2004-10-25, 15:59
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Officially tabbed books are made to make money. They are not 100% accurate, hence the old saying
"Don't believe everything you read and only half of what you see"
The good ol' ear will tell you if it's right or wrong but tabs are a great way to save time and frustration when trying to learn a song.
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2004-10-25, 16:46
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Yeah, I paid 50 bucks for a long out of print Reign in Blood tab book on ebay, and was dissapointes to see that is was not all correct.
Does anyone know of any pre-1990 Kreator or Sodom tab books?
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2004-11-05, 15:45
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The Metallica: And Justice For All tab book is horrible. The Blackened tab makes me wonder if they even listened to the song. Seriously, they got every riff wrong except for the chord progression before the solo.
http://abysslord.com/metallica/justice/01-Blackened.txt That's how it should be played.
So I agree with Chris, putting tab books up in text form isn't very helpful. I see the point about most text tabs have stuff missing, or don't bother doing complicated guitar parts, but that's usually dependent on the author. Just find some people who know how to tab things well and ask them to do the song.
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2004-11-10, 23:14
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Some people tab out AC/DC, Slaeyer, Iron Maiden song over the computer when there are books in print for those bands. This site is what to check when you can't seem to find a Venom tab book at your local music store.
I have a huge fucking library of rare, out-of-print and current metal tab books, and surprisingly, there are some mistakes in most of them even in the Japanese book versions.
Most of the internet tab submissions are from bands that you'll probably never see a tab book for, i.e. King Damond/Venom/Bathory/Sodom/etc.
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2004-11-10, 23:15
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There are about four mistakes in the song Raining Blood in that Reign in Blood tab book that you mentioned about. If you read Kerry King's column in Guitar World Magazine, he informs of the correct way to play the parts.
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