beast and canadian mist... just get some tylenol pm. 6 pills for the same amount of buzz and liver damage.

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haha yea..times are rough over here in mexico. best part is that i'm going to the gym tomorrow morning!

how long you gonna be in mexico?

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Unless I'm mistaken, he meant Mexico, Missouri.

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that is correct! mexico, missouri. by the way..i didn't make it to the gym. in fact, i rolled out of bed at about 2pm.

haha. It happens! I still haven't got my fucking bottles for my beer kit either.

I'm currently reading The Brewmaster's Table by Garrett Oliver in full. Very informative about brewing, beer styles/style pairings with food. Check it out.

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anyone have a recipe for a good, easy to make pale ale? stronger is better.

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http://beerrecipes.org/

Probably not going to find many recipes on here unfortunately.

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man....the liquor store by my house is raising its price of hennepin

Tran, just for comparisons sake, how much do you usually get a 750ml bottle for?


to bass - gracias.

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umm i dont know what the 750s go for, i didnt even pick up the last four pack we got. ill check when im there. im guessing cheaper than you though , as its brewed within my state

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De Nada.



Edit - Speaking of which, My dad brought me back 2 cans of Presidente from the Dominican. Far from outstanding, but if I close my eyes maybe I could try an escape this shitty Eastern Canadian weather. Last time I was there I was getting into good beer(April 2006? lolllol) and probably drank more rum than beer.
Probably the only way to drink it is guzzling it cold in 85F heat on a Punta Cana beach.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/912/2910

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Well, the liquor store was only charging $5.19 per bottle which is a damn fine price. Now, it's going up to almost $7.....

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the ommegang 750s were pretty cheap at the store i used to pick them up at. somewhere around $5.

yea.....thats a steal imho.

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Drinking a glass of Weihenstephan Hefe Weissbier, a 'German style' wheat beer apparently. It's fucking excellent. Not too much fruitiness, which I like, and a delicious mild banana aftertaste. I'll definitely be buying more.

The only Belgian wheat beer I've tried is Hoegaarden, and if that's a good representation of the Belgian style and this Weihenstephan the same but of the German style, then those Bavarians definitely make the superior product.

I really want to explore German and other continental European beer now...I've been drinking English ales almost exclusively, but this German gem has fuelled my tastebuds for more.

I wish I could get my hands on that shit. I've heard of it for quite sometime now.

Good local beer news though. Garrison of Halifax is soon putting out a dunkel weizenbock. They are really going crazy with the styles as of late.

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glad to hear your bottles survived the ruckus over there BB hahaha

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weihenstephan makes some great beers. my favorite is probably the hefeweissbier dunkel or the vitus. sadly, i've only had the vitus once since they didn't have it on sale in florida. a few other good germans to try are erdinger, franziskaner, ayinger, schneider and sohn, and paulaner.

as for the belgians..there are plenty of good ones. st. bernardus witbier is very good stuff..so are their other beers..particularly the abt 12 and christmas ale. sterkens makes a couple witbiers..and brouwerij de regenboog (regenboog brewery) makes a witbier called vuuve which was pretty tasty.

funny thing is, i think i know of more belgian-STYLE witbiers than actual belgian witbiers.

just got back from columbia, mo... quite a different situation than mexico, mo which is less than an hour away.

the store i wanted to hit up was closed, so i went to one i found through BA. they had a pretty nice selection..the sign said over 500 different beers. not sure they quite made it or not..didn't count, but there were more than enough to choose from. was hoping to happen across some victory or stone beers..nothing of the sort though.

to MB, they had several new belgians..including the ones you mentioned (abbey and trippel) as well as several others. unfortunately i had a limited budget and caved upon seeing some new (to me) bells beers. i wound up leaving with a 6er of bells double cream stout (a winter offering) and a 750 of unibroue chambly noire (a belgian dark ale). haven't tried either just yet, have to make a run to the store to make some chili tonight.

before i left columbia, i made a run by the flat branch brewing co. went there once before with my parents and had a good time. great beers all around, and good food. today i was (again, on a limited budget) there to try some of the rotating taps. had a baltic porter, milk stout, and an american pale ale. in that order. the baltic porter was stellar! i was VERY tempted to blow a bunch of the rest of my cash on a growler of that..just new i needed it later for gas and food. it was the best beer i've had there so far. nice roasted malt flavor..almost a molasses flavor to it after the initial roasted flavor. fairly heavy body. according to the bartender, it was the sole work of the assistant head brewer. the main brewer has nothing to do with this once a year offering and i guess they both (or just the assistant) only drink it while it's available. with good reason!

anyway...the milk stout was good..might have perceived it as better if i had it before that porter though. it had a distinct creamy feel and taste to it. you could see it in the head as well. a bit heavier than that porter..at least it seemed so after drinking the porter. not much of a roasty flavor to it...still pretty good though.

the APA was delicious as well..had a nice hoppy aroma and flavor. very citrusy tasting. not completely citrusy, but to the point where you definitely recognize it. i guess that is due to a malty backbone that rides very much in the back..almost out of sight. good stuff though.

if you are wondering about their beers..or ever in the columbia, MO area..this is their site: http://www.flatbranch.com/ click the pint to get in. they have descriptions of all their beers as well as what is currently on tap. they have a fairly extensive liquor bar too! with a focus on whisk(E)y. really wanted to try some of the talisker but couldn't at the time. hope to at least once before i leave.

just thought i should say...the unibroue chambly noire is fucking delicious!

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/26072

I start my part-time job at the Garrison Brewery 9am on Friday. They are going to start me on the bottling line.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1879

I didn't even have to pass in a resume. I started talking to this guy that works there via Beeradvocate forums and later through Facebook. GO internetz!

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Thats cool man have fun.

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hell yea! sounds like a great job..just don't drink all of your work.

haha. I'll try not too..no promises.

Cheers guys!

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Yeah like peter on family guy hahah.

Then you'll get moved to like shipping or whatever like he did and be underneath a retarded guy with like a block of wood poking of his head or something.

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Congrats man, sounds like a fun job

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YEA....congrats bassb.


I'm still waiting for my beer to ferment. I'll tell ye guys how it turns out in a few days.

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beer at school?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/200...hools.education

i'm drinking Young's double chocolate stout... best thing I've tasted in awhile.

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Went to Garrison today. Met the Brewmaster. Tried a bottle of the new "Winter Weizenbock" about 15 minutes after I met him. Ending up chatting with him and the guys for 30 more minutes. Seems like a fun place to work..lots of beer drinking going around too. I left with three 500ml bottles of the Weizenbock and a bomber of the newest batch of Imperial Pale Ale, which is now over 7% and over 70ibus.

I start work tomorrow. I can't wait. lololol.

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lucky bastard! want to fill in for me and go to OCS in april? i'll do my best at garrison.

sounds good man, like a dream come true!

right now i'm having some leinenkugel's big butt doppelbock http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/710/2464 i'd say the rating is pretty fair. good, not great or even "very good." the flavor lacks the robustness of the aroma. not as strong in alcohol as i would've guessed either considering it's a winter seasonal. ohh well..would drink it again, but it don't plan on buying more of it. i'd rather have some of their creamy dark lager.

hahaha sweet man

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went with my mom to a nearby city that is larger than where we live..was hoping to stop by the flat branch brewery again. didn't make it there though. we did stop by a grocery store which had a much nicer selection of beer than the one in our town. i took moe blizuntz word for it and got a 6 pack of new belgium abbey. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/1912 has a good rating, and a bit better than the other beer i was looking at which was a vanilla porter. (not a new belgium beer) there was a smoked porter from o'fallon brewing (a missouri brewer) that looked tempting but it was the most expensive beer there that i noticed.

funniest thing was that a 6 pack of that bud/bud light clamato stuff was only 1.10 less than a 6 of any of the new belgium beers! ha screw that! none of us in the house have tried that clamato stuff yet..still in the fridge.

25th anniversary Bigfoot = two thumbs up

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I've found that weird beer in a weird convenience store. First time i see it, so i bought it because i thought the name was funny. Funny thing is, its fucking good, i've never seen it here before today.

here's a picture of it
http://archives.topbieres.com/wp-co...06/06/cobra.jpg

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Cobra India Pale Ale. Looks like pretty decent stuff.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1145/11261

At work today I sampled Peche Mortel, top rated beer in Canada on BeerAdvocate.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1141/10325

Yeah..it was pretty good stuff.

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hah i still can't get over that shit..you lucky bastard!

that stout sounds pretty good...just depends on the level of coffee flavor for me. i've had a java stout (or porter..i forget) and the coffee flavor was just too strong for me. (i don't drink coffee, that probably doesn't help.

a good IPA i had recently was goose island IPA. they're from chicago and have a few beers available to me here. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1146/3968 bottle conditioned and dericious!

tuesday i'm going into st. louis to complete an enlistment ceremony and am planning on having lunch at the schlafly bottleworks again.

Yeah, there was quite a rich coffee flavour to it, almost like a shot of espresso with each sip. It's actually labeled a 'coffee stout' when you translate what it says on the bottle into English. BA has it labeled 9%abv when it is actually 9.5%abv.

I'm looking forward to more beers they have in their cellar..everything from various Allagash styles, obscure Belgians, to aged Sierra Nevada Bigfoots.

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yeah that is one of my favorite now. I really dont know where you can get it exept in this little stores in a really poor place in my town.

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I had Chartreuse, it tastes like pepper steak, no jokes. I was in a club so, i tried many stuffs. And a lot of Tequila I love tequila

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I hate tequila. It tastes like paint thinner.

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you must drink it with lemon and salt or with 7up. Tequila on tap aint good indeed.

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I just man up and take it down straight. I don't drink shots because they taste good.

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Bought a big bottle of Young's Double Chocolate Stout. OMFG... it was wonderful. My mouth had a multiple orgasm upon taking the first sip. I drank it while smoking a Brazilian chocolate cigar, the combination of the two went together really nice. The stout isn't too filling either. Excellent stuff

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well i do, where is the fun if you dont like what you drink! If i dare to drink soemthing i hate i'll throw it up, no jokes.

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Tasty stuff indeed.

I marinaded chicken thighs with Garrison Weizenbock, chicken stock, garlic powder, thyme, basil, and rosemary, which I had today at lunch. Add some toasted garlic cheese bread and a fresh mixed salad and you have a damn good meal.


Lastly, happy St. Patrick's Day. I'm getting up tomorrow at around 5:45am to catch the earliest bus to downtown Halifax. I have second row tickets to see the Irish Rovers at 4pm as well. Going to be a hellava day that's for sure. hahaha.

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tomorrow i'm looking forward to $1.50 Rogue Irish lagers and $3 every other drafts, plus some good rubens and shit at my local favorite place.

tonight i had Lazy Magnolia (mississippi) Jefferson stout (made with sweet potatos), cask conditioned, it was fuckin great. and Rogue Kell's Irish Lager, Sierra Nevada ESB, Terrapin Rye Pale Ale, and some cask Rogue Charlie, it was all good. and i didnt even have to drive home

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Can you buy Young's in six packs there? They only sell it in big 500ml bottles here. Not that that bothers me, 500ml is roughly a pint give or take a little.

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i've never seen them in anything other than those slightly over sized bottles. well, here in the states at least...don't know about over in the UK.

Holy shit Awesome fucking prices

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haha its exactly a pint isnt it? ive only ever seen them in 500 here in new york

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1 imperial pint = 568.26125 ml
1 metric pint = 500 ml

Just checked wikipedia

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have been drinking the new belgium sunshine wheat. it reminds me a lot of a lighter version of hoegaarden..both in flavor and body. it's good, don't get me wrong..just doesn't taste as bold. also, it's crystal clear.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/1911

havent seen that. been working on various ommegang (by far my new fav) beers. also got a 6 of the sam adams white ale. it tastes pretty much identical to last years , to my recollection. maybe a little bit less of a chalky aftertaste. last nights it was just home from the grocery store when i had one....it tasted reallllyyyyy flat. maybe it was just warm and the temp threw me, because tonights seemed much more proper

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i've seen Young's in 4 packs of cans while in Atlanta; i guess they were nitro cans like Guinness has. haven't tried one though.

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Only in the 500ml bottle.


My brewmaster and packaging manager got fired Monday morning at Garrison. Assistant brewmaster quit this morning...I'm going to call them tomorrow to see if my job is still in order..

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damn! that sucks man. hope you're still all good there. should be..sounds like they could use the help! why'd the shit hit the fan??

had some schlafly beer at their taproom today. first was a pint of oatmeal stout that i've tried before, next i had their IPA. both are great beers. i think the APA is better than the IPA. has a more distinct flavor..more of a citrus taste. the IPA is good..just doesn't really stand out compared to other IPAs.

right now i'm having some michelob cherry lager. it's the last of the beer from the AB rep...other than the clamato.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/39005

reviews seem fair. at first it tastes kinda bitter and almost metallic..then it kinda smooths out and has a mild cherry sweet flavor in the finish. not something i plan on buying again. i'd drink it again if someone had it. it's 8.5% also..another high ABV lager from AB.

Yes it does suck. Greg Nash(now former BM of Garrison) was even going to train me over the entire summer to teach me the complete brewing process of their beers.

Shit hit the fan because he didn't get along with the owner. Greg voiced his opinions about sanitation/other practices to Garrison shareholders and was subsequently fired soon after.

I apparently still have a job there though. It's a shame because Greg really turned that brewery around ten fold, as well as giving Garrison numerous awards and the Canadian Brewing Awards, including 2007 Beer of the Year with the Imperial Pale Ale. But if you can't get along with your boss..you can't get along with your boss.

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Anyone tried the Zeezuiper and Piraat beers?

I've had Piraat. It's alright.
It's worth buying just to feel the 9% buzz

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Piraat was good, but I had expected much more of it. Same with the Gulden Draak which was also in the sixpack sampler from the brewery. Too much hype from BeerAdvocate methinks.

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Is Hoegaarden any good?

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It's the milestone of the Belgian Witbier. There are better, but it is very tasty stuff as well. Spiced with coriander and orange zest. Definitely try it.

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I've noticed that it really depends on the batch of Hoegaarden. Sometimes, the beer will be outstanding.....other times, not worth the money. However, it's worth a gamble because the good batches are fuckin phenomenal.

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Since Hoegaarden are brewed under InBev now, I assume the different batches aren't what is making the beer taste different..simply due to quality control and consistency of a big brewer. It's probably more so the beer has been on the shelf too long, or if on tap, dirty tap lines.

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I wonder if thats why back in the day when i would get Shlitz Malt Liqour 40s some wouldn't be too bad and other would be so terrible. Just... terrible.

I mean for a buck 70 i better get somethin pretty decient.

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you should check your pedigree for das JUDEN!! - http://www.jrbooksonline.com/jew-bwa-ha-ha.gif

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Thanks for the advice Behemoth, I'll try some for sure. Going to the liquor store tomorrow for some Jameson anyways

Haha, I don't think anything out there can be worse than Colt 45

LOL

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icehouse or steel reserve perhaps?

yea hoegaarden is some good stuff. it seems to be a very "accessible" beer. i mean..people that normally drink stuff like bud or miller often like hoegaarden. that's not to say it's not a bad beer at all..just that it doesn't seem to turn people off like an imperial stout or something.

didn't have any beer today. didn't realize i drank the last sunshine wheat. hopefully we'll hit up the store tomorrow..otherwise, i might while we're in iowa. iowa has some of those 5% laws...regardless, it seems they still manage a decent selection according to one of my beer books. we're heading over there this friday for a couple nights to see some friends of the family.

Never had those... I've only tried Colt 45, Bullmax and Olde English. Bullmax isn't as bad as the other two. But I'm almost 21 now and I have money. We only drank that shit when we were like 14 to 16 cause we had no money Won't be drinking the cheap 40 ounces anymore... or "nigger beer" as my friend Liam would call it

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If you're going to drink cheap malt liquor, you might as well get Mickey's. It's actually got a decent flavor to it, compared to all those other cheap shits like steel reserve and shit

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Is that the shit in the little fat green bottles?

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yea. mickey's is a good one. my poison was typically OE800. in florida they don't sell 40s though..almost tempted to buy one here just to honor the past. would have to pour out some for my homiez. the only problem with that is, after having so many good beers..it's almost like punishing myself if i were to go back to some of that swill.

Haha, I'll never go back to that crap... not even for old times sake. If I wanted to drink alcoholic urine I'd just piss in a glass half way, fill the other half with club soda, and add a tablespoon of rubbing alcohol That's pretty much what the cheap shit tastes like.

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I think you just may have exaggerated that just liiiiiittle bit

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I don't think so It is pretty goddamn bad dude.

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I won't even let my girlfriend buy malt liquor anymore.

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At least yours likes beer. Mine drinks Smirnoff Ice and Vex


And lol http://imagecache2.allposters.com/i...eer-Posters.jpg

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I really like corona.
last night was fun... I really didn't like how it took 11 beers to get me just above buzzed though.

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tried some new beers over the weekend since my parents and i went up to iowa to visit long time friends of the family. the new ones i had were leinenkugel's summer shandy and honey weiss (i think i've had the HW before though), goose island honker's ale (amber ale), and point st. benedict's winter ale.

the summer shandy was weird..it's a wheat beer mixed with lemon or lemonade. was drinkable and not overly sweet..just not my cup of tea i guess. the honey weiss was ok..nothing special..very drinkable but nothing to write home about. the st. benedicts winter ale was fairly tasty. medium bodied..malty and somewhat sweet. the honker's ale was my favorite..and also one of the few i had on tap rather than out of the bottle. it's a very balanced beer. good, clean flavor. nothing really experimental by any means..just a solid amber ale. great session beer i'd say.

i made my own alchool with my friend, wel, its his own brew, but i made the pur alchool with him, it was, for sure, more than 70%, not jokes, i just took one little little drop and i needed water to put the fire down! im now really drunk!

It costs 0$ and im so damn drunk, than no one can be! mouahhehehe fuckers...heheheh

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that summer shandy sounds really interesting. i had the last of my ommegangs that i hadnt tried yet....the simple ommegang dubbel. a very good beer, reminded me of trois pistoles

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Jesus Christ... 70? What kind of alcohol?

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Went out and bought a big bottle of Sasquatch Stout this weekend. I've seen it on the shelves at the BC Liquor store for years so I decided to try it. It's a very nice stout, not the best I've ever had, but still pretty fucking good. If anyone else on here enjoys stout and lives in Canada, it's worth trying. I doubt you could purchase it in the USA though, it's made in Chilliwack, BC.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3711/22572

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Right on man. Props for buying local beer. Sadly, we don't get any BC micros on this side of the coast. I think Propeller ESB(Extra Special Bitter) is available in BC though. If so, check it out.

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Ah that sucks, it's totally worth trying, but who knows, it might make its way across Canada someday. I'll keep my eyes open for the Propeller the next time I'm at the liquor store

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if you found one Goose Island beer, look for their bourbon stout.

i went to a barleywine tasting over the weekend and had a lot of good stuff. The highlight was Lost Abbey/Port Brewing "The Angel's Share", brandy barrel aged. One of the rarest and most memorable beers i've ever had. We also had 2006, 2007, and 2008 Sierra Nevada Bigfoot available, and a Left Hand barleywine aged since 2004. probably 13 beers altogether. i'm about to open some Old Ruffian, which is still my favorite.

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haven't seen that one on sale yet. so far i've had their IPA and honker's ale. i know there is one other style on sale here, i just forget what it is. i know it's not bourbon stout because i'd definitely remember that/would've already tried it!

what's the left hand barleywine called? it isn't my favorite style of beer i must say..kinda warming up to it slowly though. my favorite style is still a toss up..IPA vs. stout vs. porter. even though stout and porter are so similar..

left hand's barleywine is Widdershins. I had to look it up. The current reviews on BA say it has a lot of yeast and stuff, well you can bet the stuff from 2004 had tons of floaters. still a decent beer, not spoiled or anything. I bet any good barleywine would last 10 years or more in the right conditions.

I'm not sure if I liked the aged barleywine better than fresh stuff though. You lose some of the genocidal hops bite and alcohol burn over time, but this Old Ruffian for instance is pretty balanced to begin with after it warms up a little from cellar temperature. Most people think 2008 Bigfoot is too hoppy, but I enjoyed the one I had a couple weeks ago.

i guess I really can't tell much about a new beer from a 2 oz taste, unless it happens to be remarkable like Angel's Share or really terrible like Phucket lager

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ive never tried a barleywine ale. they seem like a real love hate beer!

also wanna say graf im glad youre still here talking beer

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with sugar, water and a stuff for the fermentation. you leave this few weeks then you made the alcool. I've never drink something that strong before!

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i dont think you can ferment anything to 70% alcohol...

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thanks trans. i've been around a little...just half lurking i guess. haven't had much going on here in the ways of beer either since my access to beer has been severely shut down thanks to moving to mexico, mo.

yea, barleywine style ales are a real love/hate kinda thing for the most part. i'm slowly coming around, but really disliked them for a long time. give some a try..they vary a bit. try some bigfoot (sierra nevada) or old ruffian (great divide)..those are two very popular examples...only problem is that i think bigfoot is a seasonal release, and that season just ended.

mathias..i'm not sure that it can be done either. i wonder if it can if you keep adding yeast and sugar during the fermentation process??

bass, ask your coworkers!

i'm sure the stuff was strong bob, but how exactly did you arrive at that ABV? what i mean by that is how did you measure it?

SIERRA NEVADA BIGFOOT


that is all...

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I've really been getting into stout lately. I fucking LOVE it Anyways, I'm pretty much wanting to try as many as I can find. Are either of these any good?

http://www.bcliquorstores.com/en/products/687079
http://www.bcliquorstores.com/en/products/922450

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Never had or heard of the first one..but these reviews may help you.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/674/6659

I've had St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout many times in bottle and on-tap. Excellent beer for it's style. Definitely check it out.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/194/2704

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try samuel smith's oatmeal stout if you haven't already. it's like an orgasm for teh mouth.

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Thanks Behemoth I'll probably just end up trying both.

I would, but they don't sell many stouts in the BC Liquor store here. Just Young's, Guinness, Sasquatch, and the two I posted above. Young's and Sasquatch make Guinness taste like diarrhea.

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Youngs rules... if you can get their oatmeal and double chocolate stouts, you can be happy.

and yeast can't survive in high alcohol concentrations. brewers have to use special yeasts to make Sam Adams Utopias and strong beers like that. Wine and malt beverages can't really get beyond 25% because all the yeast dies. anything stronger than that is distilled. distilling pure ethanol from sugar and drinking it sounds like a bad idea to me, but knock yourself out.

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