What do you guys think of Alex Webster of Cannibal Corpse? I think he is a fucking amazing bassist and I defy anyone to say he sucks. Did any of you see him playing on The Wretched Spawn DVD. Holly fuck he's just unbelivable.

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No shit, hes amazing.

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Yes I did, he's really amazing !!!

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The simple phrase shit hot springs to mind

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Ive never heard this guy, what are his specialities?

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Bass.

Hes fucking great. And a REAL nice guy too.
Watch the DVD that came with The Wretched Spawn but Im assuming you dont have it.

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Im 99% sure that Tattered was just kidding..

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Haha I didnt realize that!

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alex is the shit, i think the only better bassist in metal is steve digiorio... ive never heard any victor wooten and if hes anything like yngwie or joe, count me out.

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vic's not metal.

I've never actually listened to the dudes bass.
But honestly as a bassist, i find "metal bassists" to be the worst. But hey I'll check him out. Prove me wrong

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sean malone also dude

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hahaha. its funny BLS, cos i wasnt kidding, ive never heard this guy.. and what are his specialities (i know he plays bass! u didnt need to tell me that cannibal corpse.. hahaha )

like what can he do that is impressive?

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Alex Webster is my favorite bassist. Hes fucking awesome. Yes i have seen the dvd

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I dont know much about bass but hes all like BASS! Hes good, just check him out some way.

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hes a master in finger style bass fretted bass. Most bassists ive met only play pick... but hes just really fast, really technical, and creates inventive basslines.

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Reguardless of the giant genre gap between the two, Les Claypool is infinitely better than him.

I don't find his playing to be anything special. But then again the only bassist that actually shows any kind of skill is of course, Les Claypool. Sorry, I like les.

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Alex is god

I seen him play with CC at Wacken this year
Unfortunately they couldnt play Hammer Smashed Face because its banned in Germany so I didnt get to hear the bass at the start which I love so much

As someone said, Steve Digiorgio is also amazing. I think Alex excels at rhythm and generally being able to play any riff (you try playing Dead Human Collection accurately and fast!) that CC write, Digiorgio is more melodic and his work on The Fragile Art of Existence (Control Denied) shows that.

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see him playing and no more questions !

you are still kidding right ?

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Hahaha alright ill look out for a CC dvd or something..

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look out for CC anyway!

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yes, I agree !

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yeah, just listen to hammer smashed face or fucked with a knife and youll hear why hes so good.

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Well.. i heard the song's... I cum blood, and stabbed in the throat.. and i didnt really hear any noticable bass work on that.. im not sure.. it was a long time ago, and i dont think i gave it a really good listen..

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Im surprised youve never heard him...

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Stay away from more recent CC. They gave up sounding good for being technical. The bass work is still good though.

Their first four albums are the only ones truly worth listening to, but that is just me, tatter3d.

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Yeh.. well your wrong

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It is definetly, just you.
Theyre newer albums are great. Just maybe not as good as the first 4 but good nonetheless. One of my favorite songs is 'Frantic Disembowelment' and thats off their most recent album.

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i dunno, their first 4 are great but i have love for all CC just more for the old stuff and when corpsegrinders doing them live!!! oh man he rules at the old ones except totm songs because his vox cant go that low.

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Their first four albums were the most original, IMO. This is obviously an opinion thing, but... Just leave it at that.

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ok...




DEAD HUMAN COLLECTION!!!!!

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well...

they were one of the first death metal bands.. kinda hard not to be original when no ones playing the same music you are.

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I was talking to Wbster afte r a show and he said he was going to have a bass solo on the last album he didnt think it was good enough. Now by bass solo i mean a whole track not just fills. He said maybe next album. He also mentioned comming out with an instuctional video with Derek Roddy.

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shit, it would be nice!

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yeat, it would be great !!

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Well fuck my arse, I agree.

By the way, there were many death metal bands around before Cannibal Corpse. MANY. Possessed, being first. Bolt Thrower, Pestilence, Autopsy, Asphyx, Death, Celtic Frost, Sepultura (death/thrash), etc. The majority of those bands preceed Cannibal Corpse by a good 5 years - and most had released 2, 3, or even 4+ albums before Cannibal Corpse had even formed. So actually, plenty of bands were playing the music they were. They may be one of the most influential death metal bands ever, but certainly not one of the first.

Celtic frost death metal???

Sepultura death metal???

What im saying is CC was defnetly one of the first to gain popularity and bring more exposure to the genre.

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Yeah, Sepultura Was a Death Metal Band in the beggining (Morbid Visions, Bestial Devastation), now they are pury shit!

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Celtic Frost practicly started it, just listen to Asphyx or Pentacle

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Not that impressed really.
Dont get me wrong the guy can play.
but i guess he's in the wrong genre to show his talent.

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Too right, Trendkill.

One of the best albums of CC is Live Cannibalism !
I love it !

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Yes. Death had 3 albums and countless demos out before CC even had ONE demo. Possessed had at least two to my knowledge.

But CC influenced every death metal act that followed.

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Didn't Obituary come out before Cannibal Corpse?

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Yes, well, they formed before cannibal Corpse.

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yeah, obituarys great too. Whyd you revoke all those speaking priveliges CC?

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Keep in mind, you people talking about when CC formed, that they're from Buffalo, NY. Anyone who's ever been to Buffalo might be aware of the fact that it sucks royally and is not a hotbed for anything. The fact that five talented, death metal-oriented musicians came together and formed a band, a good band, in that artistic climate is absolutely mind-boggling. You could say the same thing for Sepultura, but I don't think they really had much trouble finding each other. Anyway, I'm just saying: it's easier to form band in a place like Florida at the time, where everyone was racing headfirst to deathmetaldom, but Buffalo? That would take some time.

And for Dissection (and no, this is not about the CC comment, as that's a matter of taste): Do you honestly think that Les is the only person to show his skill on the bass? I agree that he's better than Webster, and most bassists of his generation, but that's absolutely nuts. I mean, when DiGorgio toured with Testament he played their guitar solos. If you're having trouble finding good bassists, the band Gov't Mule was kind enough, when their bassist died, to record two albums full up with probably the best bassists living - with the strange exception of Geddy Lee - called The Deep End Vols 1 & 2. If you can't find somebody else to impress you there, well, you're not likely to find somebody. And, of course, Les is invovled. There's actually a companion documentary, called Rising Low, that explains the making of the record, the reason behind it, and does a lot of exploration into bass playing. Good stuff.

And I like Alex Webster.

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Alex Webster is the most insane bassist in the whole fucking planet. He is my fucking god! Me and Cannibal saw CC and met Alex after a show...we even got pictures with Alex, and Pat's Signature! Anyone who says Alex sucks shall be killed in one of the following ways- burnt alive, executed personally by Alex, or just shot by a CC lover.

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Alex Webster is an AMAZING bass player, but he is not the best. Victor Wooten (already mentioned) is fucking insane. What other bass players do you know of to play the star-spangled banner with just harmonics!!!!! That should speak for itself. Alex is most impressive though because he doesn't use a pick....and because his hands are 3/4 spiders.

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death also to quite an extent

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What CC songs show Alex's best bass work? i'd like to check him out.

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Check out the wreched spawn, get the copy with the free dvd and watch the recording of frantic disembowelment (i dare anyone to accuratly do a bass tab for it). alex is more amazing to see then to hear. his bass solos are good but they are not the best, but when you see him play its totaly tits.

And Posessed were around before cc or anyother death band, They were the FIRST death band anb many belive they invented the phrase Death Metal, i sugest and death metaler to buy seven churches. and death came befor cc aswell.

any hoo i shall go before i start to ramble.

yea possessed was the first. i have seven churches its no the best album ever but its one of those metal "classic" ablums, if i remember right they had a song on there named death metal so that might be where the prase came from.

i dont think there is a version of the wretches spawn without the dvd, when i saw it thought i was like

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Don't get too excited over Alex Webster before you get a chance to hear him. He's good, but a lot of people go on about him like he's got Jaco in his pocket blessing his right hand. A lot of it comes from his being basically the only fingerstyle bassist death metal fans know, which is very impressive but doesn't actually make him better than some bassists who use a pick. There's a reason he's more impressive to watch than to listen to: when you listen you aren't forced to see his right hand wiggle away and have to focus on what's being played.

I'm by no means trying to say he's not a very good bassist. I just think there's a tendency to give him too much credit and a consensus to forget that bass playing is more than right-hand technique, which he's got in spades.

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Stefan Fimmers (Necrophagist) plays far more crazy shit than CC on bass and also uses his fingers. Now that guy has right-hand technique.

Nevertheless, go Webster he is quite a champ.

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Oh ive heard/seen Necrophagist, and yeah there bassist is real good, lots of tapping, he usues a 6 string bass, good for them high octaves.

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The whole thing about alex being so good isnt because he has a fast right hand, many many death metal bassists use their fingers. he is good because he is good at all aspects of playing and if you had watched the wreched spawn dvd u would know that.

he slaps and taps like a muther fucker in that dvd, Ok so he's no stu hamm or jaco but they play different music to what he does.

dude i heard that jaco guy but in the dvd he does talk about learning jazz and other styles to help incorperat into his death metal playing, which is a good thing if you only play and listen to metal 24/7 you will get stale

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I've seen that DVD and still stand by anything I said. I wasn't actually comparing him to Stu Hamm or Jaco Pastorius so much as to other death metal bassists, who get very little credit despite being on a similar level.

Like I said, I'm not trying to bag on Alex Webster so much as to make sure the description of him's more balanced, and to point out that there are a lot of other great death metal bassists who just haven't had the exposure, or a Wretched Spawn DVD of their own.

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where can u download the dvd from

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buy it you cheap bastard!

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I Think that Alex deserves to be called, "the kind of all Death Metal Bassists".

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You mean "the kindest of all DM Bassists?

I'm kidding, you mean "king", I know.

I really like some of the basslines on "The Bleeding", especially the track title.

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What bass does the guy use, anyone know?

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Some Modulas on the older ones and a Spector on the new one.

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yea...Kinda hard to miss...even I know this, and I'm like CC's apprentice

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Yeah, you knew that right after you read my post.

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Bah... Whatever...

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As far as metal bassists go, Webster is one of the top in my opinion. But I still think CC sucks

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no idea what basses, but he doesnt use any effects
what a rare find: a bassist who plays bass and isnt a washed up guitarist

Why do you think CC sucks ? All the members are good on their instruments and I my view it's sounds good forsuch a fast playing.

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I heard Fucked with a knife, and Addicted to Vaginal Skin, the other night, and heard some pretty impressive bass interludes.. i'd like to see a video of the guy, so im on the lookout for CC live dvd's

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Just buy the Wretched spawn CD and it comes with the DVD that really shows off his talent.

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his solo in hammer smashed face fuking kicks ass.....even though its quite simple

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Get the video of Live Cannibalism !!!

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Why? Because when you need songs like "I Cum Blood" and "Addicted to Vaginal Skin" to get attention, your quite pathetic.

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Its nice to express yourself, but seriously Tulvox if you've got nothing nice to say, then dont say anything at all. saying CC sucks is just going to kick off a big argument, and i dont want that in this thread or forum.

Thankyou.

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His best bass work is in Devoured by Vermin no doubt!

yes, I agree.



I bought me "The Wretched Spawn" (yeah the limited one with dvd ) and listened very often to it. And I think he shows his best on this album !!

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The new album's DVD definately. Holy shit....he's good.

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Just heard ''hammer smashed face'' in that little bass interlude it sounds cool, you can really hear hes uses his fingers, and he's got a real trebley clicky tone.. ill look for that cd with the dvd..

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yeah alex is pretty good, i saw the monolith of death dvd, really good basswork

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personally i think alex is just as good if not better than les. if you've ever just heard alex screwing around.. you'd understand.


you must be joking or retarded if you think that les is the only bassist that shows any kind of skill.

honestly i think people give claypool to much credit. he is godly at the bass, no doubt, but, THERE ARE BETTER BASSIST'S OUT THERE.

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neither are steve digiorgio or sean malone or rob vanderloo washed up guitarist..infact rob vanderloo's never played a guitar in his life...dunno bout the other two......and all the bassists ive mentioned above are equally good if not better

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Seriously though that part where hes hammering all the way up the neck was THE shit!

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Alex is by far one of the most well-respected and most talented bassists in the whole death metal genre. I had the pleasure of getting to know Alex for a while, and he was very happy to sit down with me and show me how he does some of the tapping techniques that he excels at. He also told me how he got to be that good...by watching lots of instructional videos, as someone else pointed out, that are not strictly metal, and practising like a mad man.

One of the main things that make Alex such an impressive bassist, is that he is pretty well the main writer for Cannibal Corpse. Look at the writing credits on almost all the CD's...

His 3-fingered playing technique is amazing to watch, aswell. He back-picks with his index finger to fill it out to what lots of people assume is a 4-fingered playing technique. (As far as I know, the only bassists out there playing with all 4 fingers are Jason Blackowitz from Divine Empire (ex-Malevolent Creation) and...well...me!)

But listen to Mummified in Barbed Wire for some of his amazing 2-handed tapping...it's mind-numbing.

Later

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Man, Alex Webster's style is SO hard to learn, the left hand speed isnt the issue, it's that fucking 3 finger plucking man, holy shit I wish he had an instructional video out there somewhere that would help or maybe he does, anyone know if he's ever made one or ever will?

On the Cannibal Corpse website's forum I'm pretty sure I read that Alex was planning an instructional dvd sometime soon.

Well, Steve DiGorgio (who also uses 3 fingers) has an instructional section on his website. It teaches you how he learned to play 3 finger and if you're feeling ambtitious learning 4 fingers is essentially the same thing (though it may take longer to learn).

http://www.stevedigiorgio.com/tablature.html

It's the last one: 'Beginning Bass - Column'.

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Yeah I checked their site out, he said he probably will get started on making an instructional video, I cant wait for that one there arent many good bass instructional videos out there, nevermind metal ones, so I'm quite looking forward to it apparently he's a really nice guy too so I'm sure the video will be really good.

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I'd buy it.

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i would too what a great player

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ALEX WEBSTER IS BY FAR THE GREATEST BASS PLAYER EVER!!!!!!!!

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!!!!!!!

I have the bass solo from the dvd recorded on my phone as my ring tone. The one that's about 25 seconds long. After he says something aout incorparating different styles to have more variation in death metal.

Heres for all you Alex Webster fans out there, or Cannibal Corpse fans in general. CC recording "Frantic Disembowelment" in the studio, check out websters technique.....in-fucking-sane! It's a 15 MB download so it might take awhile if you arent using high-speed.

Download it here : http://www.savefile.com/files/3436381

Cheers

(by the way, it's an AVI file...so you might need DIVX to play it, I'm not sure)

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Which bass solo? from what DVD? Did he release the instructional one already?

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The way I look at it is that if I cant hear the bassplayer live, then he is a PUSSY... sorry but thats the truth and you know it

That came out of no-where? are you relating to Alex webster? if so explain more..

Another look at it, a bass player could be turned down in the mix of the PA, bad micing, shit cab.. etc..

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this is going to sound pretty out of place too, but if you want to learn a good excersise for 3 finger style like that check out Spanish Romance. Great Flamenco tune thats just one long 3 string arpeggio progression.

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How the hell is the bassplayer a pussy if you can`t hear him live? It`s probably not his fault, but rather the sound guy.

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No it's the Wretched Spawn DVD he is talking about learning different types of music to incorparate into death metal and after that he plays this fucking excellent solo.

That Frantic Disembowelment video is fucking great too that's from the same DVD.

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You're obviously forgetting about Mike Dean and Rex Brown...