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Old 2004-08-19, 23:27
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DARKTHRONE's FENRIZ Presents 'The Best Of Old School Black Metal'

Snapper Music has set a September 20 release date for "The Best Of Old School Black Metal", a compilation consisting of "the most influential and most unholy sounding tracks" of the black metal genre as selected by DARKTHRONE's Fenriz.

"Cult heroes such as SARCOFAGO and TORMENTOR lurk amongst tracks from originators VENOM and BATHORY," according to a posting on the Snapper web site. "The second wave of black metal is well represented by BURZUM, MAYHEM and SAMAEL, whilst the inclusion of AURA NOIR and NATTEFROST, the latest exponents of quality black metal, make this a collection that no fan of ferocious metal should be without."

Fenriz personally selected all these tracks, and the accompanying booklet features extensive notes giving his insight into each song, its relevance to him and its impact on the scene.

"Darkthrone's Fenriz Presents… The Best Of Old School Black Metal" track listing:

01. BLASPHEMY – "Winds of the Black Godz"
02. SARCOFAGO - "Satanic Lust"
03. CELTIC FROST - "Dawn of Megiddo"
04. NATTEFROST - "Sluts of Hell"
05. MERCYFUL FATE - "Evil"
06. SODOM - "Burst Command Til War"
07. TORMENTOR - "Elisabeth Bathory"
08. AURA NOIR - "Blood Unity"
09. DESTRUCTION - "Curse the Gods"
10. SAMAEL - "Into the Pentagram"
11. BULLDOZER - "Whisky Time"
12. MAYHEM - "The Freezing Moon"
13. HELLHAMMER - "The Third of the Storms"
14. BURZUM - "Ea, Lord of the Deeps"
15. VENOM - "Warhead"
16. BATHORY - "Dies Irae"

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Old 2004-08-19, 23:32
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02. SARCOFAGO - "Satanic Lust"
12. MAYHEM - "Freezing Moon"
13. HELLHAMMER - "The Third of the Storms"
14. BURZUM - "Ea, Lord of the Deeps"
15. VENOM - "Warhead"
16. BATHORY - "Dies Irae"
I have left all of the good songs.
 
Old 2004-08-19, 23:37
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I don't really see any reason for doing this. He could of picked better songs.
 
Old 2004-08-19, 23:48
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He didn't really have to do it all come to think of it... I do like Sarcofago, Venom, Bathory, Mayhem, etc. though.
 
Old 2004-08-20, 00:52
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That's a pretty even-handed selection of lots of really old black metal. Suffice to say, that's completely unnecessary.

I think I'll stick to Hatebeak if I want to hear parrot noises.
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Old 2004-08-20, 00:53
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hahaha thats a pretty shitty track list

should just be "BEST OF BLACK METAL (BURZUM)"
and the first four burzum cds
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Old 2004-08-20, 02:10
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Old 2004-08-20, 06:12
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hahaha thats a pretty shitty track list

should just be "BEST OF BLACK METAL (BURZUM)"
and the first four burzum cds


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Old 2004-08-20, 06:32
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I disagree, this tracklisting is fucking great!

Yes, maybe tracks from bands like Burzum, Nattefrost and Mayhem aren't really old-school Black Metal (if in here it is considered as the First Wave of BM, like it should be, if you add second wave here then you must add plany more bands).

But, almoust all good old-school Black Metal bands are here, maybe the only ones which are missing band are SABBAT (japanese), PENTAGRAM and POSSESSED.

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Old 2004-08-20, 08:33
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01. BLASPHEMY – "Winds of the Black Godz"
02. SARCOFAGO - "Satanic Lust"
03. CELTIC FROST - "Dawn of Megiddo"
04. NATTEFROST - "Sluts of Hell"
05. MERCYFUL FATE - "Evil"
06. SODOM - "Burst Command Til War"
07. TORMENTOR - "Elisabeth Bathory"
08. AURA NOIR - "Blood Unity"
09. DESTRUCTION - "Curse the Gods"
10. SAMAEL - "Into the Pentagram"
11. BULLDOZER - "Whisky Time"
12. MAYHEM - "The Freezing Moon"
13. HELLHAMMER - "The Third of the Storms"
14. BURZUM - "Ea, Lord of the Deeps"
15. VENOM - "Warhead"
16. BATHORY - "Dies Irae"

i think thats a fairly disappointing tracklist. they should have more waves, maybe on a double cd, and include stuff like gorgoroth, ragnarok etc.
by the way, were the hell is the dissection and emperor??
 
Old 2004-08-20, 12:00
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well i can see no dissection


but yeah, really, where is emperor?
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Old 2004-08-20, 16:15
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i think thats a fairly disappointing tracklist. they should have more waves, maybe on a double cd, and include stuff like gorgoroth, ragnarok etc.
by the way, were the hell is the dissection and emperor??


I wouldn't rise Dissection to the same level with Emperor, and neither to the level with these songs which are on this CD.

I think that the songs should be only from First / pre-2nd wave black metal bands. Not from the boom of early 90's, when the 2nd wave of BM was very famous.

If there would be songs from Dissection and Emperor, there also should be bands like, Beherit, Manes, Ildjarn, Gorgoroth, Mütiilation, Moonblood, Profanatica, Graveland, Von, Sigh etc. and these would fill the CD quickly.

So the idea of making a collection of famous/true black metal is bit stupid because there would be too many bands/songs to put into a CD. But if it must be done, there should 2-3 different CD releases where each would include Black Metal from different period (1 CD for 80's BM / 1st wave, 1-2 CD for the 2nd wave boom bands (restricted from 90 to 95)).
 
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Yes, it is disappointing. Yes, it could have been better. But not all of the songs are absolutely terrible.
 
Old 2004-08-20, 16:51
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i think thats a fairly disappointing tracklist. they should have more waves, maybe on a double cd, and include stuff like gorgoroth, ragnarok etc.
by the way, were the hell is the dissection and emperor??


Bands like Carpathian forest and Gorgoroth started early, like 92,93. Same wave as Darkthrone and Burzum as I see it. Dissection used to be considered Death metal I bellieve(I do, but you could call it a mix) and Emperor is not that important, or good.

This is ment as a CD for those who have just started listening to black metal, not for those who allready know about the bands.
Fenriz said something like this: "Morons som har peiling fra før, burde også ha peiling på at skiva ikke er ment for dem."
Translation may be needed for you guys :"Morons who allready have a clue, should also understand that the album isn't ment for them."
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Old 2004-08-20, 22:41
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DARKTHRONE's FENRIZ Talks About His 'Old School' Black Metal Compilation

DARKTHRONE's Fenriz recently spoke to the U.K.'s Terrorizer magazine about his upcoming compilation of "the most influential and most unholy sounding tracks" of the black metal genre, due on September 20 through Peaceville Records. Entitled "Darkthrone's Fenriz Presents… The Best Of Old School Black Metal", the album features classic contributions from the likes of VENOM, BATHORY, SODOM, HELLHAMMER, BURZUM and MAYHEM backed up by sleeve notes from Fenriz providing an insight into each track, its relevance to him and its impact on the scene in general.

"It kinda started when I was putting together a list of tracks that should be played in my funeral," Fenriz explained to Terrorizer. "Must have been back in '93 or something. Then I started throwing thrash metal parties in '96-'98 when I spun thrash metal vinyls on two decks, for a whole load of prominent people from the Oslo metal scene. Then, I started doing thrash metal nights in the Elm Street pub, but I quickly found out that people weren't banging enough, hell, almost only I did bang throughout the sessions. So I wanted to collect thrash or black metal on an album. I personally dig compilations from various genres. Historical compilations are not common in the metal scene, so when I met Hammy and Lisa [from Peaceville] last year, I sort of aired the idea."

It's noticeable how many of these tracks are particularly sloppy and raw. Asked if that is part of what true black metal is about, Fenriz responded "I didn't put emphasis on 'true' — just 'old'. But yeah, the relentlessness comes across in a better way when the old thrash and black metal is performed like this. I disgust myself being too steady on the drums, from the days of sky high ambitions. People probably ask themselves, 'He can't be serious, can he?' But I am bloody serious: this is the way I like black metal, and these are the artists that inspired so many of us — in many cases to write straighter and more streamlined material. I believe in raw and ugly!"

Where does the spirit of black metal begin? What about the bands that influenced these bands?

"I could talk for years about this, but everyone likes it short," Fenriz explained. "Black metal is as oppressive a style as any that involves the rock 'n' roll feeling. Correct timing will come and go, and great minds and talents will crumble under it. After trends — the deluge! I say the spirit begins within — one feels at one with ancient forces. Musically it is just as difficult to grasp, but I believe real metal, extreme metal spirit was best [described] by Kerrang!'s [and BLABBERMOUTH.NET's very own] Don Kaye, [he] reviewed 'Bestial Devastation' and 'Morbid Visions' by SEPULTURA: 'SEPULTURA has a sound that will turn flowers black.' This was back in '86, and I never looked back!"
 
Old 2004-08-21, 01:46
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Emperor is not that important, or good.


For someone with a Mayhem avatar, I don't think you're legally allowed to say Emperor sucks.
 
Old 2004-08-21, 21:24
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I don't really see any reason for doing this. He could of picked better songs.


Yeah, since when were fucking DESTRUCTION OR SODOM BLACK METAL?!

And Abbath, its not that they suck, as much as they are fucking BORING.
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Old 2004-08-21, 21:27
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I wouldn't rise Dissection to the same level with Emperor, and neither to the level with these songs which are on this CD.


Dissection > Emperor

So you are also saying that Dissection's "Black Horizons" isn't on par with some of the SHIT here? FREEZING MOON? I think not. De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas should be on there.

And douchebread, Possessed are Death Metal.
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Yeah, since when were fucking DESTRUCTION OR SODOM BLACK METAL?!


Old Sodom is Black Metal (In the Sign of Evil).

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Dissection > Emperor


I do appreciate Dissection's talents and their music in the genre of Black Metal, but they haven't release such releases as "Wrath of the Tyrants" or "In the Nightside Eclipse", that is why I rise Emperor above them (also the influenticality of Emperor in BM is one reason).

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So you are also saying that Dissection's "Black Horizons" isn't on par with some of the SHIT here? FREEZING MOON? I think not. De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas should be on there.


Yes, Freezing Moon by Mayhem is one of best BM songs ever recorded, and the whole De Mysteriis dom Sathanas album is better than any from Dissection (though any other album from Mayhem isn't).

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And douchebread, Possessed are Death Metal.


Yes, but they were one of the most influentical band to the 2nd Wave BM (to it's theme), compare this to Slayer, which has influented as much Death as it have influented Thrash. In 80's, metal genres didn't had much difference from each other as they have now.
 
Old 2004-08-22, 18:06
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And Abbath, its not that they suck, as much as they are fucking BORING.


I cannot possibly see how Emperor could be considered boring. They are among the most influential, and IMO best metal bands of all time.
 
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Old Sodom is Black Metal (In the Sign of Evil).



I do appreciate Dissection's talents and their music in the genre of Black Metal, but they haven't release such releases as "Wrath of the Tyrants" or "In the Nightside Eclipse", that is why I rise Emperor above them (also the influenticality of Emperor in BM is one reason).



Yes, Freezing Moon by Mayhem is one of best BM songs ever recorded, and the whole De Mysteriis dom Sathanas album is better than any from Dissection (though any other album from Mayhem isn't).



Yes, but they were one of the most influentical band to the 2nd Wave BM (to it's theme), compare this to Slayer, which has influented as much Death as it have influented Thrash. In 80's, metal genres didn't had much difference from each other as they have now.


I didn't read Fenriz's comments on why things were chosen, and I was too lazy to utilize the "edit" button.

And De Mysteriis would've been better without Atilla on vocals. I don't think he had what it took to do that album.
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Old 2004-08-22, 19:54
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And De Mysteriis would've been better without Atilla on vocals. I don't think he had what it took to do that album.


Attila's vocals on De Mysteriis dom Sathanas are damn good ones, those add much depth into the music (Attila's vocals on his Tormentor project are great too). But still I wouldn't rise Dissection's music above this record if there would have been Dead still singing at vocals, though I have only heard he singing some songs from De Mysteriis.. on Live in Leipzig, but there should have been some better sound quality if it could be compared to De Mysteriis..
 
Old 2004-08-22, 20:41
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My problem with Atilla is the fact that his singing sounds as if its coming from him on the toilet in some parts.
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Old 2004-08-23, 11:47
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i agree, attila is a horrible vocalist. him and ironlungs/messiah being the only vocalists ive heard, the deathcrush lineup does it for me.

then again, i am a berzerker fan, not that much difference between attila's vocals and sam's vocals. probably the genre difference.

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