im looking at getting a new 2x12 any suggestions? i was looking at the peavey TRANSTUBE® 212 EFX what do you guys think of it? im looking at spending about 500-700...maybe a little more (us $)

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what kinda sound are you looking at?

I've tried those peavey transtube things (not the one you're looking at) but they don't sound like tube amps to me, kinda like AVT's... but not as overpriced.

if you're just looking for a great combo, you might want to give Brunetti Maranello's a look, or maybe Engl thunder/screamer combo's (50w tube but pleeenty loud)

not 2x12 though...another one that comes to mind is the h&k warp 7 combo, its a 2x12 and around your price range

i want an amp that can give me a nice shred sound and a good death metal sound aswell

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and it has to be a 2x12, or just 'plenty' loud?

I dunno if you played the transtube series yet, but I don't think it has a good high-gain (/shred) sound, most peavey's do have a good overall distortion for metal, so I guess you could cover the death metal sound.

anyways, whatever you do, don't get those Crate 2x12's, they suck horribly

well right now i only have a 1x12 so i guess it doesnt have to be a 2x12 but i definitally want one thats louder then what i have...and i played the transtube series a couple of years ago and i remember liking it but my tasts of music back then were different so i may not want it anymore ill have to check it out again

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so, what are you playing right now?

if you gots the money, don't settle for a low quality s.s. amp. a used blue voodoo, 5150, jcm, mesa f series, ect. can all be had for about you price range.... well.... if you're buying used..

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some shitty ibanez amp ( i can hear the laughs already)
i was too busey buying other guitars,pickups,pedals and other shit that i never got around to buying a new amp and i just realised the other day that i really need a new one



whats an ss amp?
and i got no problem buying used so besides the 5150 and jcm(which one would you suggest though) can you describe the other amps you mentioned?

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solid state..... as in not tube.... some s.s. amps are good, but not many.. and the ones that are usually cost alot more....
the 5150 is good but realy generic and trendy these days....
for jcm, i'd go with a jcm 2000 tsl or dsl, the 800's and 900's are great too, but mucho less gain.... a simple boost pedal or really high output pickups could help fix fix that...
as for the blue voodoo, they're like the best crates ever made... all tube and good sound for really cheap. hell, for $700 u.s. you could buy a bv120h and a marshall 1960 4x12 cab.....
the mesa f series are great, some of mesa's better cleans, and distortion that's similar to the mesa recto, but slightly different and with a bit less gain(still plenty)... and they're cheaper too.
i'd also have to suggest the fender roc pro... i played a friends... it had awesome cleans, like most fenders.... but the distortion was really metal....

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i shoulda knows what S.S. stood for....

thanks for the info dislexic ill look into those amps


EDIT: the crate blue vodoo looks good (and the price is good too )
as far as a cab whats the difference between an angled one and a straight one, just the shape of it right?

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genz benz

awesome cabs

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i can vouch for the bv being a god amp... i barrowed one for awhile... i needed to, i was like "man, it's a crate....whatever, i'll make it work"... i was suprised it sounded so good....

as for cabs, the sound difference in straight cabs and angle cabs is pretty big sometimes.... angled cabs seem to project more evenly,big reason they are so popular in half stacks. because two speakers are tilted back slightly to project up more...
but straight cabs are used more for fullstacks, as the botoom cab, not only because the top of a slanted cab isnt big enough to hold another cab, but they seem to produce more low end... because the speakers are only pointing in one direction...

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what do you suggest for a cab? one of the stores around me has a peavey 5150 cab for 350, (ill go play through it some time)

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i got my peavey 5150 combo for 550 incl shipping. mint condition save one little scratch....highly recommended.

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fuck dude i dont care about one little scratch it saves me 200$

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5150 cabs ain't bad, but I think they don't have a true tone compared to a 1960 or other high quality cabs, as in, they don't sound as neutral to me. I don't know if its just me, but every goddamn peavey product seems to like mids a lot...

though they're the best deals for the money in the US, but over here you can get a marshall cab for around the same price, so that made me think twice.

I'm not a big fan of crate amps, but you have to see for yourself, just don't buy anything without trying it, they're plenty loud though. if thats what you need, they're the best bang for bucks I guess.

angled and non angled speakers only have one difference most of the time, the base (non angled) cabinets sound deeper because of the bigger measurements, its just a slight difference you won't even notice on most amps.

most (not ALL) non-angled cabinets have the speakers installed in an angle JUST like the angled cabinets, just look at a marshall 1960 B cabinet (the front plate is installed in an angle but the front of the cabinet is straight) there's absolutely no difference in projection, I've heard them next too each other and I prefered the straight cab. straigh cabs are often a little bit cheaper too because most people buy angled cabs (makes sense though)

think twice about what you're getting though, if you don't need a stack, it can be a pain in the ass (too loud, too big, etc...)

i think 5150 cabs are great n' all, but sheffeilds just have that hard to explain gritty-ish coloring feature.... some like it more than others.... i'm spoiled with celestions though....
1960a cabs sell for about the same price as 5150 cabs in the u.s. too... bout $600 new... and like $200-$400 used depending on the condish.
personally i'd take the marshall.


not all straight cabs are like that... though some are...


i'd take a half stack over a combo anyday... more volume... better looking, often better tone...
and easier to transport.... because cabs usually have a wonderfull little feature called wheels... so on flat surfaces you can just slide me around with the head on top...
ever tried to carry a 100w tube 2x12 combo????? sooooo heavy... it's like a head and a 2x12 cab in one, with no wheels or side handles... just one dinky strap on top... pain in the ass....
though the halfstack may take up more room in a vehicle, but most mid sized 4 door cars can actually fit a 4x12 on the back seat.
hell, i have a van so i need not worry about that....
even though i just spent $1,600 getting the fucker fixed......

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Ive come to the conclusion that the 5150 cabs sound extremely well paired up with a 5150. But with other amps they just seem to lack.

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agreed BLS, its made for the 5150, and I think you can hear it from its tone too, it magnifies the 5150 head, but on other heads it just doesn't sound right to me. hence, I'm not a big 5150 fan anyways, but those cabinets are far from neutral sounding.



most are... just take a look at base cabs from the major manufacturers and boutique amps, engl, marshall, koch, h&k, you name it.

Orange and other old shit don't have it, don't know about mesa and peavey since I only saw their topcabs.

it doesn't show easily but if you look closely you can see it, my marshall B cab has the same angle as the angled cab if you calculate it over the whole height (its one surface instead of two at a less steep angle, though on a bigger surface)


I wouldn't take a half stack over a combo anyday... it just depends what you need, if you just want something to carry around which sounds great or if you need something for bigger gigs and shit.

if you want a combo, get a small quality one instead of a 2x12 (reminds himself of peavey deuce's) for a combo I'de go with a nice h&k triplex, engl screamer or something along the lines of brunetti or mesa. (though mesa combo's are all heavy haha)

I don't give a rat's ass about the 'look' of my guitar, sure its cool to have a stack, but I'm not a poser that would buy one if I wouldn't need it, fuck, its your amp, not a fucking fashion statement.
thats why I fucking hate those so called boutique amps with tiger striped cabinets and shit, what the fuck is up with that?

I know a lot of combo's that will blow most stacks out of the water, even JCM's and shit. ofcourse a combo has less usable volume, because its driving less speakers and pushes less air, but what would you rather have? a really loud shitty sounding stack or a superb sounding mini-combo with killer tone that cuts through the mix easily?

cabs are a bitch to carry around, though the wheels are indeed a really nice invention by mr marshall... good handles too, but its still bitchy to take it on the road every weekend. if I wouldn't need it I would definetly get a small usable combo. though that combo would prolly cost as much as most halfstacks, haha, it would own most of them though

if you want a seperate top and cab why don't you get a 2x12 cab with a loose top? like a mesa 2x12 or engl vintage halfcabs. whatever you want, the possible combinations are endless

Hey what are the charicteristics of the 5150 like compared to the Bv 120?

Def, i rather carry around a cab and head then a combo... the 5150 combo is heavy as hell, it sucks carrying that bitch around.

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yeah, exactly what I said, if you read my post... if I'de get a combo I'de get a small and brutal one, definetly NOT a 2x12.

and you're a wimp, every carried a rivera rackmount? its like 50 kg. but its a good workout

my knowledge of tone and cabs is pretty limited so...if you had say a marshall 1960 cab and a peavey cab would they sound the same as long as you had the same speakers in them, like the celestions vintage 30's?

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they'd sound really effen similar..... because a 5150 cab and a 1960a are both about both about the same price,quality,size, ect... i'd buy the 1960 though cuz it comes stock with g12t75's... which o'd take over sheffeild 1200's anyday.

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well.... i've spent hours at gigging levels around each... the 5150 has a much "dryer" sound... a little more gain(the bv. still has tons)... the blue voodoo has separate eq's for each channel... plus it has reverb, where the 5150 head doesnt.. more raw and less processed than the bv imo... but i kinda like slightly processed sound live, it makes it sound a little more cd quality.
i probably wouldnt say one is much better than the other.... it's kinda personal taste, each one has plenty of gain.
i'd take the bv personally because it does my sound better...

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IN that case the 5150 sounds more up my ally


i might be buying a 5150 head off a guy in few months