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Old 2004-07-21, 19:35
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Gore Vs. Satan

I want to know what do you guys prefer in the lyrical or image content of a metal band? Satan or Gore.

I prefer Gore since it's more real than Satan. Satan is all fantasy but stuff like murder and necrophilia can and sometimes do happen. Satan is not serious at all. I know some people would say gore is stupid but at least the gore bands can say "Yeah it's all a joke. We don't take ourselves seriously." But the satanic people try too hard to keep their "evil, dark, and antichrist" image up. Yeah hold swords and wear capes and face paint. Yeah that's real serious there buddy. All their lyrics are the same too "Fuck god, worship satan. blah blah blah Nosforatu! Satan!!!" Fuck off! At least Cannibal Corpse or Exhumed have different story lines in their songs. Sure it's all gore but it's different forms of gore. I think it was low for the black metal scene to pick a fight with the death metal scene. We are all going to die someday and rot away. But I think people are afraid of the truth and hide behind a world of fantasy where they think Satan will protect them from death...no one escapes death. No one.

So yeah Gore or Satan? What do you prefer? vs
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Old 2004-07-21, 19:43
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Old 2004-07-21, 19:51
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Old 2004-07-21, 21:17
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Old 2004-07-21, 22:17
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Since everybody else is trying to get their post counts up by making 3 word comments such as "this thread sucks" instead of just leaving it be, and letting it drop in the order of threads, so that nobody can see it, I will attempt to give my opinion.

I think that when gore is overdone, to the point of it just being completely disgusting and scary (im talking overly scary) it's just disturbing and no good. I like it when bands mix it in, but talk about other stuff at the same time. Both Satan and Gore can be good when done right. An example of a band that uses both is Black Dahlia Murder, who doesn't go overboard with any of them. Listen to a song like "The Blackest Incarnation." Or any of the songs on the cd for that matter. "Thy Horror Cosmic" is a more Satanic song, while "apex" and "closed casquet requiem" are more Gore oriented.

I hope this was the kind of answer you were looking for. I'd say it's the best one yet
 
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indeed, that last one "no comment" was over the top

but if i see a bad thread i like to call it out

i guess if im going to credit this bad thread with my response (egooooooo) id say satanism, or simply hatred of religion
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Old 2004-07-21, 22:24
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admit it, if this guy wasn't a noob, everybody who posted would have long, thoughtful posts that would help a little bit more. If somebody like Darko or BLS started a thread like this, everybody would have their fingers tearing up the keyboard.
 
Old 2004-07-21, 23:23
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nah, its a pretty stupid topic.
plus he left out fantasy as a lyric choice

and forests
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Old 2004-07-21, 23:27
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i think they are both excessive, gor was all good and well back when Symphonies of Sickness was released, but now its been done and is no longer interesting

in reguards to satanism i feel a similar way, been done, oits time for people to move on (not mensioning any glen's in particular)

im seriously going to start a gore grind band and sing about dragons and fighting for the kingdom
 
Old 2004-07-21, 23:56
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Old 2004-07-22, 00:00
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admit it, if this guy wasn't a noob, everybody who posted would have long, thoughtful posts that would help a little bit more. If somebody like Darko or BLS started a thread like this, everybody would have their fingers tearing up the keyboard.


Rubbish.

If they'd started this thread (and it's eminently possible), they'd be the asshat instead of this asshat.

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But the satanic people try too hard to keep their "evil, dark, and antichrist" image up. Yeah hold swords and wear capes and face paint. Yeah that's real serious there buddy. All their lyrics are the same too "Fuck god, worship satan. blah blah blah Nosforatu! Satan!!!" Fuck off!


This was when I stopped liking you and wondered what was for lunch.
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Old 2004-07-22, 00:04
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Rubbish.

If they'd started this thread (and it's eminently possible), they'd be the asshat instead of this asshat.



This was when I stopped liking you and wondered what was for lunch.


Meh. I'm not here to be liked.
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Old 2004-07-22, 00:10
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I don't like either. When bans have those kind of lyrics I usually just ignore them. I like lyrics with meaning(but not emo or nu-metal). Here's one song from a local band I enjoy.

"SACRIFICE

celebrities and presidents
gather in sick ritual
burnt infant offering
is it mocked or is it real?


cremation of care
we are not aware
going on deep
in groves of bohemia


human offering to moloch
your stone owl god
give away cares for
domination fraud


cremation of care
we are not aware
going on deep
in groves of bohemia


men only club
featuring world elite
deep in the redwoods
cult must be beat!


cremation of care
we are not aware
going on deep
in groves of bohemia"
 
Old 2004-07-22, 00:48
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You seem to miss the point FBS. You can critisize people all you want about their opinions, but where is yours? It is easy to make fun of other opinions when you don't even take the time to post yours
 
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Since everybody else is trying to get their post counts up by making 3 word comments such as "this thread sucks" instead of just leaving it be, and letting it drop in the order of threads, so that nobody can see it, I will attempt to give my opinion.




man, Who actually gives a fuck about post counts? I say "no comment" because it's a nice attack at the stupidity of this thread. Any idiot who actually considers the amount of their posts as revelence to anything is a nob.

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Old 2004-07-22, 03:32
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you could just not post, so as not to humour the stupidity
 
Old 2004-07-22, 03:52
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Gore. I dont know. Well, Cannibal Corpse is my favorite band so... Gore.
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Old 2004-07-22, 04:13
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Gore is tired. For some good anti-christian lyrics (even if I don't agree with the message), Immolation writes some clever stuff.

Satan, Yay. Gore, NAY (Carcass is the exception).
 
Old 2004-07-22, 07:06
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They arent the only two genres, as other have pointed out.
It depends what mood im in really, for the style of music
But generall Satan>Gore for me, cos i like Black Metal better than Death usually, and a lot of older bands are antichristian. Although there are some Antichristian bands, that arent Satanic.
Viking metal, Folk metal. Amon Amarth, Burzum anyone?
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Old 2004-07-22, 07:34
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- Gore
- Satan
X None of the above

I would rather listen to lyrics based on anything but gore or satan. Those subjects are so boring and unoriginal.
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Old 2004-07-22, 07:48
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Gore, its great reciting them to family members and friends, just to see thier reactions. Although there are some nice satanic ones, something like...

There is no fate bad enough for the pope, except for thirty satanic sisters to rape him. I would also like to desecrate his lovely asshole. It would be nice to shread him

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Old 2004-07-22, 07:57
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Old 2004-07-22, 11:12
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I disagree with many of the others and find this an excellent question. I find most gore lyrics to bore me to tears, and I find ALL Satanic lyrics to do the same. The difference between the two is that gore actually CAN be done right, mostly because it's not something to take seriously. Those Satanic poseurs can go fuck themselves.

I also find it humorous how many of those bands write Satanic lyrics and then distance themselves from religion when asked about it. If you don't have anything to say about it, then shut the fuck up. Nobody cares if you hate God/Jesus/whatever. Maybe you should get a life and not hate somebody that doesn't exist. You don't see me going around writing songs about how I hate Huckleberry Finn and Mother Goose.

Gore lyrics are more likely than not horrible, due to stupidity, unrealism, and people going back and forth just spewing out random gory things (i.e. Chris Barnes' lyrics). However, some are great. Carcass lyrics are fucking awesome, they are obviously not meant to be serious. I find their lyrics VERY humorous.

Personally I prefer people who don't devote themselves to either one or the other. I like Suffocation's, Malevolent Creation's, and Monstrosity's lyrics. While a lot of them are gory, not all are, and there's a lot of creativity, something you don't see from bands that devote themselves to gore.

I'm off my soapbox now.
 
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I disagree with many of the others and find this an excellent question.


Thanks dude. I was just saying an opinion but at least one person understands.
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Gore is better, it opens alot of doors to creativity. Satanism though, you can't really tell much about it, it's all the same.

offtopic: Satan is a cool band, gonna see em this summer
 
Old 2004-07-22, 20:20
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They both bore me. It's stupid to devote yourself to ONE lyrical topic, theres a fuck load of issues out there that I would like to here from some musicians but I can't because they are too busy singing about molesting their mother while using a baby as a condom.

Gore, sometimes humorous, always seems to be over done. The only gore lyrics I can enjoy are Lord Worm's, Gorerotted, and the older Carcass material.

What was that one goregrind band formened by a bunch of Doctors? They had interesting lyrics too.
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The only gore lyrics I like(as many others do)
are the ones by Carcass.
As for satanic lyrics I like them more
than gore but they usually are stupid(for
example Maniacs lyrics are good as are
the lyrics from Limbonic Art or Aldrahn).

EDIT:I forgot to add Samael as for
good lyrics(A crown of thorns is still a crown)
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I'd prefer probably a mix of both rather than any particular one. To much gore is just plain boring. Over use of Satanic symbolism can also get boring after a while. ya ya we know you love Satan and hate God...it gets old anyways. I like viking metal and folk metal with lyrics a lot. Viking because of the whole norse mythology like Amon Amarth and for Folk Metal definitely Elvenking. Great lyrical content and all. But for a mix of satan and gore i'd say The Black Dahlia Murder also. They have some really great lyrics. i.e. Funeral Thirst, The Blackest Incarnation.
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The Black Dahlia Murder also. They have some really great lyrics. i.e. Funeral Thirst, The Blackest Incarnation.


Although you just repeated what i said on the first page...



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malevolent creation sing about a ton of stuff.

stalkers in-pursuit revised
knife murderers in-multiple stab wounds
war in iraq on the entire warkult album

and yes, burzum!
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but i like humouring you.\

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if no-one posted it wouldn't be
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Old 2004-07-23, 04:48
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In my eyes, gore never gets old. I enjoy listening to lyrics explaining bloody, brutal deeds... Lots of people do. There's no limit to the amount of gore you can stash in a song. No matter how gruesome lyrics are, they could always get worse. I like that.

And satanic, religious type songs, I have nothing against them. I don't really care about religion, it's interesting, but I dont take it all too seriously. But that doesn't mean that I wont listen to bands who do, because I like reading/hearing about different views and shit.

I'll listen to gore and satanic music... Neither of them bother me.
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her'es to u hacked.

i killed u last night
and let u lye stagnant in my bed
for a couple of days
when you started to taste bad
i butcherd u
to quell the stentch
.
i tucked u in my sheets
u stained them
i'd sue u if you were alive
but you're not
i wish you were my lawyer,.

i cut your eyes out,
cuz what u see is waht u get
so i shoved them up my ass
u fag

slit ur neck
and worshiped satan
...at least i feel cool

than i'm arrested and raped
i love
it

i love the aroma of burnt flesh
it reminds me of turkey on thanksgiving day
without the stuffing
you bastards


i had a dog
my family loved it
i loved it
in a different way
but when i tried to show my love
it bit me


it fought back
unlike that bitch
who was
dead
and let me


i bathe in blood
i heard it was good for the pores
like tomatoe sauce for skunks
or such bullshit

i love gore
hail satan
...in the butt.


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hahaha!!!

You are officially taken off my hitlist that puts everyone on it by default... that was funny
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it's not supposed to be funny.


i piss blood
because i fucked a corpse
i got e coli
from the bitch

may taste like chicken
it's raw like chicken

i fucked your mother
she liked it
so i killed her

and danced with her
while i creamed on your sisters bed

she woke up
"mommy?"
me: "yes child"
"you don't sound like mommy"
me; "really"
l.....censored......

i drowned her in vomit
like a childs first breath

i piss on your happiness
like an ignorant death

did you ever choke on blood
burn ur supper
liver
stomach
is it still haggis?
if it's human?


i chew on used condoms for bubblegum
it's cheaper that way
and some are flavored

realize what i'm getting at,
add me back to your hit list and i'll give u more.
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*stuffs hitlist down bra and refuses to budge* your lyrics are the shit, but their greatness is what's keeping you off the hitlist...
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Satan mixed with creativity.
 
Old 2004-07-23, 05:23
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oh you poor girl.
if you actually think those lyrics r good
i'm heading to bed, but for you here's some right gore shit, directed to you.




You feel comfortable at night
u snuggle in after a long day of hate
under your sheet
under your father


u hate
u want
to hate


he made u bleed
he made u love
him

just like the priest
just like the teacher
just like reality


u sleep now
the tears drying
your hate festering

you cut yourself
and worship bands
you think they've been there
they've not

I've not
but i can pretend

i carve your name into my arm
but miss my veins
purposely
i don't have the courage
i wish a did
or i wish i wish i did

my life is good
and i hate it
i want to be unhappy
i want to hate
i want to relate

so i kill animals
neighboorhood dogs
cats
hamsters


when i see road kill,
i lick it
it tastes bad
but i'm evil


i throw rocks at it



i think about my elders
they're weak
easy targets
theyre' skin is loose
good lamp shade materail
i hate
i relate



i masturbate too much
it hurts
but i love the pain
i wish it was u

blood is a beautiful color
too bad it turns to brown once painted


gore what's that
satan? hah, if theres sick fucks like me around who gives afuck about satan.
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if something has the ability to make me laugh hysterically, then it is good. These lyrics of yours are quite amusing. Hey it aint my fault I like weird shit...
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oh you poor girl.
if you actually think those lyrics r good
i'm heading to bed, but for you here's some right gore shit, directed to you.




You feel comfortable at night
u snuggle in after a long day of hate
under your sheet
under your father


u hate
u want
to hate


he made u bleed
he made u love
him

just like the priest
just like the teacher
just like reality


u sleep now
the tears drying
your hate festering

you cut yourself
and worship bands
you think they've been there
they've not

I've not
but i can pretend

i carve your name into my arm
but miss my veins
purposely
i don't have the courage
i wish a did
or i wish i wish i did

my life is good
and i hate it
i want to be unhappy
i want to hate
i want to relate

so i kill animals
neighboorhood dogs
cats
hamsters


when i see road kill,
i lick it
it tastes bad
but i'm evil


i throw rocks at it



i think about my elders
they're weak
easy targets
theyre' skin is loose
good lamp shade materail
i hate
i relate



i masturbate too much
it hurts
but i love the pain
i wish it was u

blood is a beautiful color
too bad it turns to brown once painted


gore what's that
satan? hah, if theres sick fucks like me around who gives afuck about satan.


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Old 2004-07-23, 07:39
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Any subject can give rise to good or shitty lyrics. Some other subjects of metal besides gore and satan, besides those mentioned so far: pain, loss, power, betrayal, righteous anger, despair (Trendkill's mellifluous warblings exhibited many of these nicely ). For excellent satanic lyrics I love Rotting Christ... so poetic and vivid. On another note, somehow it seems easier to take cheesy gore lyrics than cheesy satanic lyrics. Maybe cause gore is just more fun in the end.
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lol, those ARE funny lyrics trendkill, i get good images aswell, thanks. If only i had a hitlist... you would still be on it cos im not in a good mood.
Good moods are rare though. Thanks for the laugh
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Old 2004-07-23, 23:55
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SATAN HELL LUCIFER CHRIST KILLERS!!!!! ARGHH EVILNESS!! I LIKE GORE MIXED WITH JESUS! I LIKE TO SEE JESUS ALL GOREY!! ARGHHHHHHHHhh
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i'd have to go with satan, as its fairly interesting but then again so is gore
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I started a gore metal band that lasted about a month. It was basically a joke. Our name was Hanging Gutted Torso, which was a joke because it seemed like common gore metal name. We wrote 20 songs in about a hour. My favorite song was Chainsaw Anal Sex because it was longer than 3 minutes and it was a good mosh song. And we played one show to a bunch of friends and we were covered in fake blood, our small occult following lol. But don't get me wrong, I still love gore metal, but we didn't take ourselves seriously.
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Al Gore can be pretty scary.................
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By the way, check out Lust Of Decay , a great gory death metal with a awesome drummer and vocalist. They sound a bit like Dying Fetus, but I like Lust Of Decay better. Festuring Anal Vomit is their best song in my opinion.
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By the way, check out Lust Of Decay , a great gory death metal with a awesome drummer and vocalist. They sound a bit like Dying Fetus, but I like Lust Of Decay better. Festuring Anal Vomit is their best song in my opinion.


Errrmmmm... Festering Anal Vomit sounds familier (collyer ) is that covered from somewhere?
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Al Gore can be pretty scary.................


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Gore isnt scary... wtf? Its not as if you can understand the grindcore lyrics anyway, you have to search them up, so u can enjoy the music without being fwightend
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But don't get me wrong, I still love gore metal, but we didn't take ourselves seriously.


Don't worry. Gore Metal bands are not supposed to take themselves seriously.
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Gore isnt scary... wtf? Its not as if you can understand the grindcore lyrics anyway, you have to search them up, so u can enjoy the music without being fwightend


Gore isnt scary! It's funny. Plus after you read the lyrics you can get a great kick out of them.
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Same goes for satan.
 
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Errrmmmm... Festering Anal Vomit sounds familier (collyer ) is that covered from somewhere?


Man, for some reason almost every gore bands has a song about anal sex and vomiting or a combination of the two (take Exhumed's Oozing Rectal Feast or The Exquisite Flavor of Gastro-Anal Tripe as an example). You can go to google and type vomit anal sex and shit load of gore metal bands will pop up.

But if you're talking about the way the song sounds then I can't help you. To me it sounds a little like Grotesque Impalement by Dying Fetus.
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