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Old 2004-07-20, 05:40
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Dissection begin recording new album

Reactivated Swedish death metallers DISSECTION, featuring guitarist/vocalist Jon Nödtvedt, are currently in the studio with a full line-up, working on their first studio recording since 1995's classic album "Storm Of The Light's Bane". The first single and video is scheduled for release in September 2004.

As previously reported, Nödtveidt spent seven years in prison after being convicted of murdering an Algerian homosexual. A short-lived collaboration with former EMPEROR drummer Bård "Faust" Eithun ended in December over "the demands of DISSECTION's Satanic concept." A documentary DVD and a new studio album are expected sometime in 2005.

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Oct. 30 - Stockholm, SWE - Klubben
Dec. 14 - London, UK - Scala
Dec. 15 - Nottingham, UK - TBA
Dec. 16 - Dublin, IRE - TBA
Dec. 17 - Belfast, IRE - TBA
Dec. 19 - Bradford, UK - Rio's
 
Old 2004-07-20, 08:10
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I don't see how it is still Dissection. Jon is the only original band member, i wouldnt be surprised if it has a different sound, even only a slight one.
Its much the same with new Mayhem, with only Necro Butcher, and Hellhammer, they are a different band to original Mayhem.

But keep us posted on updates
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Old 2004-07-20, 12:55
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id rather see burzum recording again
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i read an old interview with him when he still was in jail, he sure got enough inspiration to write something as grim as the old material
 
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who? burzum or jon? what was he in jail for
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Old 2004-07-20, 21:27
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who? burzum or jon? what was he in jail for


And you call yourself a burzum fan
 
Old 2004-07-20, 22:10
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talkin about jon, he killed a fag and burnt some churches i believe. Bård "Faust" Eithun also set some fires to stuff.
 
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And you call yourself a burzum fan


even i know of all that Black Metal drama.... such Drama Queens they are.


"Im gonna burn churches cause im evil!!!, im gonna kill homosexuals cause im evil and hail satan!!!! even those homosexuality is against gods belief, so acually im doing him a favor... GRRRR"
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Old 2004-07-21, 00:18
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nah i know what burzum's in for but not jon

burzum didnt kill euro because he was gay (was he even?) it was over record label money and a hatred for the "commie-rat"
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Euronymous was gay. I would give anything to see Burzum recording proper black metal again, not Amb. crap. But back to Dissection guys, Varg won't go back to metal. I wana see Dissection come to Australia
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hahaha i didnt know that he was gay


i dont own any dissection cds! blasphemy!
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Yeh, i've read Lords of Chaos, its an awesome book with the history behind black metal, going back to Bathory, with heaps of interviews, i recomend it to all of you.

Aparently Varg and someone else searched his house, and found a shitty dildo in one of his drawers. And he always did it anal, cos they thought, the worst sin was to let sperm hit the ground, and they thought it would be way worse to have it shitted out, and into the sewage...

Also Euronymous owed Varg a shitload of money, he was a communist, and he was a real fake, a poser satanist. Eventually Varg found out that his whole personality was fake, and to his annoyance, Euronymous kept it up, even when they were alone. While Varg and others were burning the chuches, and desecrating graves, Euronymous was always saying "we burnt another church last night" always trying to get credit for some of the more extreme acts in Black metal.

Hehe, end of rant.
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Old 2004-07-21, 05:09
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Wonderful.... a new video. I pray they don't go all Dimmu on us.
 
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even i know of all that Black Metal drama.... such Drama Queens they are.


"Im gonna burn churches cause im evil!!!, im gonna kill homosexuals cause im evil and hail satan!!!! even those homosexuality is against gods belief, so acually im doing him a favor... GRRRR"


BLS. we KNOW you dont like black metal. please, kindly dont hesitate to shut the fuck up and keep your anti-black metal rants out of black metal posts.

if there was an anti-black metal thread, by all means go and have your stupid rants in there i will keep out of it if it does happen.

until then, get the message through your thicker-than-mcdonalds-thickshakes head that black metal fans do not care for people who hate black metal as you so passionately do.

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BLS. we KNOW you dont like black metal. please, kindly dont hesitate to shut the fuck up and keep your anti-black metal rants out of black metal posts.

if there was an anti-black metal thread, by all means go and have your stupid rants in there i will keep out of it if it does happen.

until then, get the message through your thicker-than-mcdonalds-thickshakes head that black metal fans do not care for people who hate black metal as you so passionately do.



Careful, he'll get his e-gang onto u, watch out for his boisssss.

Otherwise, i agree entirely with what andrewc said. Fuck off.
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now thats over, ill comment on the new album.

dissection is my second favourite band (behind opeth of course) so i will basically listen to anything theyll put out, with an open mind, because i cant wait to hear their new stuff.

severed lead jonah, it is very unlikely that dissection's world tour will involve australia, less so that it will be an underage gig. by the time dissection comes to australia, we will have to have a special wheelchair mosh and drink little nips of port as opposed to slabs. also, the new dissection including jon will be dead.

but yeah i cant wait to see whos in the new dissection.

this is a dumb question but what happened to peter and ole, the old rhythm section? and why cant they come back?
i know why johan norman cant come back though.
 
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BLS. we KNOW you dont like black metal. please, kindly dont hesitate to shut the fuck up and keep your anti-black metal rants out of black metal posts.

if there was an anti-black metal thread, by all means go and have your stupid rants in there i will keep out of it if it does happen.

until then, get the message through your thicker-than-mcdonalds-thickshakes head that black metal fans do not care for people who hate black metal as you so passionately do.


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Will you stop fucking with my name pls?

It's either Severed_Head_Stoner or Weathered_Dead_Boner

Or Mr. Stoner

I know Dissection won't put out an underage gig at Aus, but i can dream.
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So they killed him because he shit his lovers spearm out? Fuck that Id kill him for taking it in the ass.
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Its much the same with new Mayhem, with only Necro Butcher, and Hellhammer, they are a different band to original Mayhem


Erm dude... Maniac was the original vocalist, well not if you count messiah in, so the lineup is pretty like the deathcrush
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They have had shitloads of vocalists, its hard to keep count. He might have started off with them (did he?) but there were lots of vocalists inbetween then and now.
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Yeh, i've read Lords of Chaos, its an awesome book with the history behind black metal, going back to Bathory, with heaps of interviews, i recomend it to all of you.

Aparently Varg and someone else searched his house, and found a shitty dildo in one of his drawers. And he always did it anal, cos they thought, the worst sin was to let sperm hit the ground, and they thought it would be way worse to have it shitted out, and into the sewage...

Also Euronymous owed Varg a shitload of money, he was a communist, and he was a real fake, a poser satanist. Eventually Varg found out that his whole personality was fake, and to his annoyance, Euronymous kept it up, even when they were alone. While Varg and others were burning the chuches, and desecrating graves, Euronymous was always saying "we burnt another church last night" always trying to get credit for some of the more extreme acts in Black metal.

Hehe, end of rant.


You have probably heard those stuff somewhere on internet, and some of those are wrong rumours and some even very absurd ones. Actually it was true that Euronymous was having some communist believes in early 90's, but I don't believe that Varg killed him for that. As for the assumption that Euronymous would be gay comes probably from the making of Deathcrush album, because the lyrics were so sick in that release, there could born some rumours that their creator was sick too. Actually Varg killed Euronymous because he was very jealous for Euronymous' position. Namely Euronymous was in very respected position in those days black metal scene and many people admired him, and also Euronymous was very arrogant in that position, he decreed Varg's musical talents and he cheated him to do the bass to the new De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas album without getting any reputation from it. And maybe because Euronymous was getting quite rich by his "Helvete" black metal shop at Norway, was a some sort of contributory cause for the murder. Also there is a rumour that Euronymous had something going on with Varg's ex-girlfriend. But these all are rumours, no one can surely know Varg's true motives for the murder.

Back to the topic, Dissection is fucking great band, very simple and raw Black Metal with very dark synths and the Storm of the Light's Bane was a masterpiece of this kind of music, melodic and raw Black Metal. I am waiting much for this upcoming Dissection material.
 
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Faust quit Dissection because he did not like the new space, sci-fi thing.
Is there more than one guy in Dissiection now? I'm not up to date as I don't listen much to that band. But I'm gona start, because a friend of mine has a CD of them, and it's quite good. It's just that Dissection is from sweden Sweden is thte enemy


The original Mayhem lineup anno 1983 is Euronymous, Necrobutcher and Manheim. Then Maniac and Messiha came on Deathcrush(Messiah sings on the Venom cover and Pure fucking armagedon(the song) according to reliable sources).
Necrobutcher and Euronymous did vocals on the earlyer demos. You can't hear them allmost...
Maniac is their first full member vocalist then. He can be called one of the old guys indeed.

Dead and Hellhammer arriwed shortly after each other summer 88, after Torben and Kittil had a short and unsuccesfull time in the band. Hellhammer is then drummer nr.3, and Dead is singer nr.4
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You have probably heard those stuff somewhere on internet, and some of those are wrong rumours and some even very absurd ones. Actually it was true that Euronymous was having some communist believes in early 90's, but I don't believe that Varg killed him for that. As for the assumption that Euronymous would be gay comes probably from the making of Deathcrush album, because the lyrics were so sick in that release, there could born some rumours that their creator was sick too. Actually Varg killed Euronymous because he was very jealous for Euronymous' position. Namely Euronymous was in very respected position in those days black metal scene and many people admired him, and also Euronymous was very arrogant in that position, he decreed Varg's musical talents and he cheated him to do the bass to the new De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas album without getting any reputation from it. And maybe because Euronymous was getting quite rich by his "Helvete" black metal shop at Norway, was a some sort of contributory cause for the murder. Also there is a rumour that Euronymous had something going on with Varg's ex-girlfriend. But these all are rumours, no one can surely know Varg's true motives for the murder.

Back to the topic, Dissection is fucking great band, very simple and raw Black Metal with very dark synths and the Storm of the Light's Bane was a masterpiece of this kind of music, melodic and raw Black Metal. I am waiting much for this upcoming Dissection material.



You have some things wrong there. I got my information from Lords Of Chaos. A book with detailed history of Black Metal and the goings-on around it, with plenty of interviews.

Firstly, i didn't say that the sole reason for Varg killing Oystein was his communism. They DID search his house, and they DID find a shitty dildo. Euronymous also said that pussy was disgusting. Also, Varg and Euronymous both held highly respected positions in the "Black Circle" of Norway and to a lesser extent Sweden. They were both senior members, and Varg had a lot more recognition for starting the burning of the churches. Eurnonymous didn't do that at all. Euronymous was barely breaking even with Helvete. The building it was in was much too big, and a large portion was not used for the shop, and so the rent was very high. I havn't heard about Euronymous and Varg's ex. Was that Maria? Although i doubt that happened, because i believe Euronymous was gay.
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I read in an interview with Varg Vikernes, that he entered Oysteins house, not intending harm. When they were in, Oystein panicked, and ran for a gun (the same shot gun "Dead" killed himself with) and Varg chased him, with a knife he had with him. Catching him, and stabbing him about seven times. His excuse for the other wounds, was some glass broke, and Oystein fell in it.

Varg's main defence for the murder, was that he acted in self defence, and if he had intended to murder Oystein all along, he would have put on the hunting gloves he had in his pockets, to leave less of a trace.

I'm not sure i believe that, as it gives Varg's point of view only, and it was years after the crime was commited, so he has had plenty of time to reflect.

I just outlined what happened briefly, as im fucking tired, and can't think of much more.
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Yes, but you have to look at his last few albums...

If he released another "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss," that would be fucking great.

And Euronymous gay? No. I think that is one of the dumbest things I've heard in awhile.
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Erm dude... Maniac was the original vocalist, well not if you count messiah in, so the lineup is pretty like the deathcrush


No one argue with Sanders. This guy is the board expert, for those who don't know him that well.

Oh, and we should ALL know why that bastard Johan Norman won't be coming back. I think the others abandoned Jon, not vice-versa. Can't remember it.
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hvis lyset is amazing, i just listened to it

the reason we're all so confused about the euronymous thing is because varg changes his story quite a bit.

he went to the house with one other person, who waited in the car. varg stabbed euronymous right at the door to this appt, and killed him on the staircase. varg denies that there was ever any "black metal inner circle" in the first place. eurononymous WAS gay.
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You have some things wrong there. I got my information from Lords Of Chaos. A book with detailed history of Black Metal and the goings-on around it, with plenty of interviews.


You shouldn't read books from metal genres, those's information are usually wrong and compilitely out-of-date (interviews (To put interviews in a book is stupid thing to do, books are same as records, even if they have been released for 20 years ago, people still buy them and listen them and same goes to books (reading). Interviews should be in a magazines which USUALLY are read few times after buying it and after that very rarely or never)), and their sources aren't very reliable (EG. Lord of Chaos' sources are mostly from interviews (well, I talked about the reliability of interviews, and in this case they could be somehow right (in ideologically level), at least in the 2003 version) / internet forums / true-kvlt black metal mates of the writers which assume that they know everything. And they have made their own conclusions from these interviews of the KVLT people from OLD-SCHOOL Black Metal scene (what is written in these interviews is fundamentalistically true and they base the Black Metal scene stories/history to those interviews (+their true friends knowledge)).

You should listen to the nowadays BM scene, outsiders, less-KVLT-BM-ers, not any famous Black Metal IDOL. These "idols" accumulate their knowledge of Black Metal, ideologies, philosophy etc. and therefore they change their views and opinions all the time, and Black Metal shouldn't change in the commensurately with(/because of) these idols/scene leaders changes of minds. And it isn't, Black Metal is working individualistically (own thoughts, ideology, views) and sometimes (actually nowadays quite generally (because of the revolution of internet and other "easy way to talk with people"-sources of information)) collectivismically (crowd's general views (common), prevalent knowledge of some norm/standard). Some musical genres, like popular music is working other way, idols/famous people define the music genre's ideological references (what the music is in spiritual level, for who is the music ment for, who can make it, for what it is made for etc.). In Black Metal or other extreme music genres, this has born from the mass, the ones who buy it, the ones who make it (NOT emphasising for reputationality) thoughts.

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Firstly, i didn't say that the sole reason for Varg killing Oystein was his communism. They DID search his house, and they DID find a shitty dildo. Euronymous also said that pussy was disgusting. Also, Varg and Euronymous both held highly respected positions in the "Black Circle" of Norway and to a lesser extent Sweden. They were both senior members, and Varg had a lot more recognition for starting the burning of the churches. Eurnonymous didn't do that at all. Euronymous was barely breaking even with Helvete. The building it was in was much too big, and a large portion was not used for the shop, and so the rent was very high. I havn't heard about Euronymous and Varg's ex. Was that Maria? Although i doubt that happened, because i believe Euronymous was gay.


Do you actually believe everything what Burzum's fans say at burzum.com's forum? Thinking that Euronymous would be gay is just way too absurd, those dildo stuff which you have talked about above are just some rumours made by burzum.com's people or similiar human-beings (Yes, there could be something correct about this thing, but I think that the thing which is actually true is very restricted version, because loads of people has inflated this fact. Maybe Euronymous has said something about gayness and someone has heard it, then he has said that to another person about "Euronymous said..." and then the new person which heard it spreads it again forward and everytime the one person who tells to some another person something from the old story, he adds something own to the story to just sound cool somehow (and if the "story" comes to some Euronymous hater's ears, he definitely inflates it into new dimensions, and this is how wrong rumours are born) But I believe that this thing comes from the lyrics/theme of Deathcrush album). Though there are many other rumours out there, and people shouldn't always take seriously the stuff which they hear (/are about to hear).
 
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burzum called eurononymous gay in at least two interviews..
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Oh, and we should ALL know why that bastard Johan Norman won't be coming back. I think the others abandoned Jon, not vice-versa. Can't remember it.


Johan Norman is the cunt who dobbed Jon in?

Damn, this thread is getting hard to follow.

I would be listening to Hvis Lyset, but andrewc has it

So im listening to Dew-Scented instead. MAX VOL
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hvis is my favorite of his i think.... the drum rolls in the beginning song are worth the price of the album anyways
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heard burzum/aske, hvit, and filosofem. each has its own great qualities, although filosofem has a bit much filler.
 
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