Me again with another amp question.
I live in a samll town in Arkansas so you guys are my only resource for answers.

Is the Crate Blue Voodoo any good for ....DEATH METAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack Owens used one so id say yes

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i barrowed one for awhile when i was preamp-less and was blown away..... i was thinking... crate, hmm, this wont be good..... totaly humbling experience.

if i was close to broke and my rack got stolen and i needed an amp on the fly... i'd probably get a used bv120h... great tone for your buck. 300-400 u.s.$ for a used bv120h....

a crate bv120h on a decent cab will sound great for death metal. i was really suprised how well the cleans got along with pedals too. but distortion pedals are pretty much useless with that amp because the amp's dist is great. plenty of gain... and it has separate reverbs for each channel.

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WOAH!!! On tonights episode of Buffy, Oz was talkign about amps with some chick, and he mention the Blue Voodoo!!!

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Similar to a JCM900

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but with more gain, cleaner cleans, and a completely different tone, but other than that... i guess they're kinnda laid out the same.

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I just bought a Blue Vodoo! Yeah! its so awsome... got it and the cab brand new for $1000. the cab is a b-52 (never heard of it) but it sounded alot nicer then the bv cab (dont know why) and cost less. the only thing that kind of bugs me is the head is dark blue and the cab is black... im not complaining, but it just looks like they dont fit together.

any ways i have a question... the pedal it came with has 2 bottons on it (1 and 2)and i thought the second one was for reverb, but it turns out its for the effects loop. at this time i dont have any thing in the effects loop and i think i want to make the second botton on turn the reverb on and off. is that possible?

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what version is it? bv___?.... the non v30 bv cabs sound like shit.... but hell, why did you buy a b52 cab??? yuck....

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its a bv120h and i bought the b52 because it was cheap and sounded better then the bv cab (mabe the cab they had there was messed up, but it didnt sound that good) but any ways can you answer my question?

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well. is it the one that came with it? when i was using one it had an off brand 3 button footswitch channel,reverb, and fx loop..... you might just need a different cable for the footswitch... there should be a diagram on the back of the head saying which part of the 1/4" jack does what....

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iv been reading the manual and all but it doesnt clearly explain the effects loop and the line out port. what do i put in the fx loop? is that were i put a pedal of some sort(like a wah or multi fx thing) or do i still just use 2 cables and put it beween the guitar and amp.... and for example, my gnx3 records, so were do i plug it in so i record exactly what i hear coming out of my amp....is that what the line out port is for?... i dont want to screw it up or anything... oh yeah and theres 2 buttons for the fx loop, whats that all about?

sorry for all the questions latly but im so horrible with this technical stuff.

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Sorry to bring this old thread up again but I just noticed a nice deal on a Blue Voodoo..

I know a few here owns one, has anyone got sound clips?

I think I red somewhere on the board that it's pretty similar to the marshall DSL, well.. is it?

The Blue Voodoo does not sound like a Marshall..

It sounds like a Blue Voodoo.

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It's cheaper (the 120W at least), I think it's waay more high-gain just by itself than the DSL just by itself, I thought the cleans were a bit thicker and smoother.

soundclips ...

i wasnt that impressed when i played it.


But i really wanna play one again to confirm that.

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would you get and old ultra or a bv?

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I'd get the Ultra.. its much more versatile than the BV and I like the overall voicing better.

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I have a Blue Voodoo combo...it's pretty fuckin loud. IMO the distortion is nice but it could be better. I have to struggle to pull pinch harmonics. The clean channel is beautiful. When I bought it, it had a loose ground and it was all fucked up. Just about a month ago I decided to get it repaired, now it sounds like a dream...heheh, the guy changed the tubes and the speakers. Now I have a Crate with Marshall speakers. I'm shopping around for a pedal that could boost the gain a little bit. So far, I've come accross the Nitro dist. pedal and the Silver Dragon, they sound like what I'm lookin for. Any suggestions?

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Crate Blue Voodoo = Not Enough Gain?

Hmm maybe you have shat pickups, or something, I've never had this pinch problem your talking about, maybe your not digging in hard enough?

Also on the other hand what are the old Ultras like? Sound clips available anywhere ?

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Naw dude, I have an EMG81 Bridge....on every other amp I've played my ph's are godly. For some reason my Bv doesn't cooperate

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thank you. someone else with basically the same problem! i replaced th tubes and it still has no gain. maybe the old ones are way diferent than the new ones. when i tap theres no dist hardly. i have sd's. im sellin it.

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if you have to struggle with pinch harmonics, it's your technique. the amp isnt going to cover you with tons of unusable gain, so if you're a sloppy player. you're going to sound sloppy through that amp.

crate with marshall speakers? well "marshall speakers" are what they put in the cheapo s.s. practice amps. in the real marshalls they have celestions.

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Yeah, after I got my ENGL, i started woodshedding cause I sounded a bit crappy through it (a BIT). Looks like i'm gonna finally kick myself into shred-levels of technique...

*has been postponing that too long*

I think it does, yeah technique is the most important but I've already mastered most pinch harmonic styles. When I tried it on like, let's say the Gibson LP custom on a Blue Voodoo, the harmonics sounded godly. Then I tried a DXMG on a Marshall MG100, and it sounded like shit.

the way pinch harmonics work, if you change guitar, more than likely you'll have to get used to it in order to pull them off. as everything is different. fret size, pickup make, pickup location, the action of the strings, where you rest your picknig hand, ect...

i.e. my old guitarist could bust out a p-h anywhere on his emg-loaded sg, but then if he switched to one of my ibanez's it was pathetic. he of course blamed the guitars, their jumbo frets, the pickups, ect... and just claimed that overall they werent good guitars for pinch's. but magically, when i picked one of them up the pinch notes practically played themselves.
there are such drastic differences between an ibanez RG and a gibson SG. or any other guitars for that matter. he simply wasnt used to my guitars.

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O I C.

It's definately not my technique. I've had the same guitar for about 5 years and have been fuckin around with pinch harmonics for about 10. When I plug into my pop's Line 6 my ph's are clear as water, on my Bv they're not as strong...I'm talkin about ph's on the 6th string, all other strings pinch just fine...just the deep "Wylde" like pinches that I can usually pull any other time, I can't do with my Bv.

I bought the Silver Dragon pedal, hopefully that'll help me out a little bit

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But then, still in the end it depends on the amp too I think. I went to G-center and picked up the exact same guitar I have at home, the Jackson WRXT Warrior. But I plugged into a Line6 HD147, and again, my ph sounded better.

Yeah, I have a Warrior too but I changed a bunch of shit on it, it's a pretty sick guitar. I played it on my friends Peavy XXX Half stack and my pinches were fuckin ear-blistering

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there is no reason a pinch harmonic should suffer because of an amp.

if you do it right, the pinch will sound... sure the amount of gain has something to do with how it sounds. but still, it's a technique thing. i can pull out pinch notes just fine on a blue voodoo, or any other amp for that matter. even a clean channel or acoustic guitar..

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Exactly.. can you pull a pinch harmonic with no distortion??

You should be able too.. if not your technique is lacking. Stop using distortion to cover up your playing.

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You guys are getting me all wrong. I didn't say I COUNLDN'T pull them, I said I STRUGGLE with them. My problem is thay're not as strong on my Bv than any other amp I've played. And, yes, I can pull ph's on an acoustic...my technique is definately not lacking

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ummm... i don't see how an amp is going to make your technique struggle....

sure through a blue voodoo it's not going to squeal like 3 metalzones into a rectumfrier... but it's got plenty of gain for just about any style including death metal(if you doubt this listen to cannibal corpse).

don't know what to tell you...

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I guess pickups...?

Its just the Blue Voodoo doesn't have oodles of gain to cover up poor playing.

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the blue voodoo makes me feel good inside, i want to get one, i will sleep with it.

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Does CC use these amps or?

from what i know they do not

Jack used a Gx 130c, and a GSP 2101, on the wretched spawn dvd he was checking out the new Bv 300s i think, but never mentioned anything about using them (if i remember right)

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Jack has used them before.

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I know jack shit about cannibal corpse..

are their tone on recordings very processed or almost dry?

If it's dry, recommend me some songs from them where I can hear the amp

Anyone tried the 150H one?

does the new one have way more gain than the old one?

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When they came out with the 150 and changed the tolex to black, they changed the wiring a lot. Old BVs kill the new ones IMO

last time i saw CC, geremy was using one... and the time before that, jack was using one.

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they sound awfully nice, the sweet distortion, it made me cream my panties, i rather enjoyed it

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thats the guy from origin right?

well he's not in the band anymore, Rob barret is back.

how did the BV sound at the corpse show?

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yippee, barret is back

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right, "the guy from origin".
i know rob's back... but i was just talking about the last couple times i saw CC they were using BV's. though alex was sporting his triple recto.

CC always has a good sound live. they always play the right notes at the right time, the mix is always great, and the tone is always good.

i know jack used the BV on the recording, aswell as his trusty gsp 2101...

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Again, it's not my technique that struggles, it's the sound I get when I pull them. Whenever I get a chance I'll record it and you'll see what I mean

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well, the way you were describing it means the amp is affecting your abilities. which is phsycally impossible unless the amp is laying on your hand..

the only other thing i can think of is the blue voodoo doesnt smother you in oodles of useless, fizzy gain. so your pinch harmonics arent as screetchy.

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My abbility isn't affected, my sound is. The 5th string is still screechy but the 6th string which is usually very "full" sounding sounds too faint

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well i wouldnt describe that as making you "struggle" with them... they just sound different.

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Isn't Alex the bassist?

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I would like to randomly point out that last night i played a rivera M 100 head.


It was pretty damn good, really nice lead sound, could of used a bit more brutallity on the riffing tone but it had a really great later death(death the band) riffing tone.


Pretty kick ass

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oh shit, my bad, i ment PAT!

i didn't even notice that i put alex... yes alex is their amazing bassist... he plays ampeg shit.

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in what way does that belong in this thread?

it doesnt, i just didnt figure it deserved its own thread

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