2004-06-14, 04:09
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CARCASS AMP SETTINGS?
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE AMP SETTINGS (# ON HI, MID, LOW) OF CARCASS' AMPS FOR THE HEARTWORK ALBUM?
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2004-06-14, 09:06
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I can tell you that Micheal Amott has been playing Peavey 5150's for the past 10 or so years. And he uses a Seymour Duncan JB in the bridge position of his guitar.
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2004-06-14, 16:13
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He also tunes down to B. I have a 5150 and can get that tone pretty much. The tuning has the most to do with the tone I think. Crank up the bass to 10, mids about 2 or 3 highs around 6 or 7. Turn down the reverb and crank up the presence. You will not get that sounds without saturated tubes.
They do not have a totally scooped tone either.
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2004-06-14, 18:38
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i cant wait , my peavey is coming on monday. thanks for the settings
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2004-06-14, 18:45
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He also tunes down to B. I have a 5150 and can get that tone pretty much. The tuning has the most to do with the tone I think. Crank up the bass to 10, mids about 2 or 3 highs around 6 or 7. Turn down the reverb and crank up the presence. You will not get that sounds without saturated tubes.
They do not have a totally scooped tone either.
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uummm 5150's don't have reverb,
and i wouldnt suggest the lows turned up to 10 if you want to here what you're playing, especially if you're tuned to B. because 5150's can get really low and muddy sounding if you turn the lows up to much, my guitarist has a sonic maximizer and eq in the fx loop which really helps tighten the lows and improve his overall tone.
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2004-06-14, 23:49
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and he has EMG's which tighten the tone even more. And Micheal Amott switches between C and B tuning.
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2004-06-15, 01:41
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i cant wait , my peavey is coming on monday. thanks for the settings
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If its new then it will sound like ass. Stock 5150's sound like shit.
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2004-06-15, 03:11
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My 5150 combo has reverb. They sound stock fine, it is just that the stock tubes (Sovtek) sound pretty cold.
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2004-06-15, 03:47
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a stock 5150 is still an amazing amp. But once you replace the tubes, and get the bias mod..... wow you'll shit yourself. Its a real tone monster.
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2004-06-15, 04:19
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My 5150 combo has reverb. They sound stock fine, it is just that the stock tubes (Sovtek) sound pretty cold.
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well, the heads don't have reverb. the stock power tubes are fine, i like sovteks, but i think jj's are better for powertubes, the stock preamp tubes are little no name chinese shit tubes.... they need to be sovteks....
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a stock 5150 is still an amazing amp. But once you replace the tubes, and get the bias mod..... wow you'll shit yourself. Its a real tone monster.
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i wouldnt go as far as saying you'd shit your self or that it's a tone monster(it's no boutique amp or anything). but they are great amps,fair priced, well built and they sound really good.
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2004-06-15, 05:34
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have you played a 5150 with the biaa mod?? Its really makes a difference when you change the bias from 15mA (cold as shit... buzzy distortion) to 42mA. The clean channel on my is usuable now too, i dare to even say.. good
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2004-06-15, 14:07
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haha, ill judge the tone with my own ear
if it sucks ill bring it to the shop and let them have their way with it
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2004-06-15, 14:11
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uummm 5150's don't have reverb,
and i wouldnt suggest the lows turned up to 10 if you want to here what you're playing, especially if you're tuned to B. because 5150's can get really low and muddy sounding if you turn the lows up to much, my guitarist has a sonic maximizer and eq in the fx loop which really helps tighten the lows and improve his overall tone.
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Don't turn the low's up to 10? You're crazy! I have my low maxed all the time and it sounds tight and punchy. Have you ever played a 5150 combo before? I'm also not playing a bone stock 5150, I have JJ tubes. Not only are my lows turned up all the way but I have an 85 in the bridge Usually I'm using an MT-2 or RP300 with that also though. (I know it just ruins the 5150's sound) but I can't crank up because of where I live. I usualy do most of my EQing through the FX.
The settings I gave him should get him fairly close. That tone is not hard to get. Carcass also uses JCM900's and the Guv'nor distortion pedal which you can't buy anmore. You can buy the Guv'nor 2 though.
And oh yeah, the 2x12 does have reverb.
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2004-06-15, 14:15
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haha, ill judge the tone with my own ear
if it sucks ill bring it to the shop and let them have their way with it
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Trust me! The stock 5150 is good but can be modded to sound really killer. Before your 5150 even gets to your house I would order some J.J. tubes for that beast (eurotubes.com) good prices and excellent service. It will be night and day differerence I promise. If you really want a killer amp, check out the voodooamps.com and listen to THEIR modded 5150 sound clips. Killer sounding 5150's at any volume. Pricey though.
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2004-06-15, 17:49
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Originally Posted by joblo1978
Don't turn the low's up to 10? You're crazy! I have my low maxed all the time and it sounds tight and punchy. Have you ever played a 5150 combo before? I'm also not playing a bone stock 5150, I have JJ tubes. Not only are my lows turned up all the way but I have an 85 in the bridge Usually I'm using an MT-2 or RP300 with that also though. (I know it just ruins the 5150's sound) but I can't crank up because of where I live. I usualy do most of my EQing through the FX.
And oh yeah, the 2x12 does have reverb.
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k, well, we've establish this, the heads do not have reverb.... and a 5150 head is also quite different sounding from the combo(the combos are biased differently), with my guitarist's 5150 head he has his lows at like 4-5(very ballsy),mids at 5-7, highs at 5-6, and gain at 6-7..... with a sonic maximizer in the fx loop that boosts the highs and lows as well as tightens up the lows. it has all sovtek tubes(pre and power), but he's replacing the powertubes with jj's soon and getting an mkII mod.
i don't like the combos as much as the heads though, they just sound different, maybe a big part of it is the speakers(2 sheffield 1200's in the combo vs. 4 celestion v30's in my guitarists cab.) but even on a 5150 4x12 cab they still sound different.
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i know nothing about tube amps...
how much would getting new tubes (and having them installed) cost?
and how long will the tubes last
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i know nothing about tube amps...
how much would getting new tubes (and having them installed) cost?
and how long will the tubes last
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well, the cost depends on what brand you want....
you can install them yourself for free, open up your amp, don't touch anything but the tubes, pull the tubes out put the new tubes in, unless you're switching types of tubes(i.e. el34's to 6l6's) no biasing should be required.
preamp tubes usually last several years without needing replacing, powertubes go faster....
it depends on how often you play, how long, and how loud.
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When I played a brand new 5150 at a guitar shop, I thought it sounded like shit. I also played a 5150 II and was disapointed aswell. I'm pretty damn picky about my tone for a person who knows very little about amps. Alls I can determine is if a amp sounds like ass.
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2004-06-15, 21:29
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alright, thanks dyslexic
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2004-06-16, 03:52
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i know nothing about tube amps...
how much would getting new tubes (and having them installed) cost?
and how long will the tubes last
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http://www.dougstubes.com/
and if you can change a light bulb you cna replace your tubes... its acually easier, no screing in required!! Just remove the back panel (4 screws phillip head) and take the old tubes out, put the new ones it... they only git one way. Its idiot proof. Just dont have the amp tunred on when you do it
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2004-06-16, 12:17
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i dont know.....im a human lightning rod anyways. how much does getting it biased cost?should i?
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2004-06-16, 14:19
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The stock 5150 need no biasing, it is biased so fuckin cold (15mA) its meant for easier tube chaning or sumshit... peavey has a million excuses for the cold bias. You can get the bias mod done for $60 or do it yourself for under $3. Biasing an amp requires a bias probe and a multimeter.
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