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Old 2004-06-14, 01:22
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Slipknot Guitarist:"I don't sound like anything except me"

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I agree with him about people starting bands when they arent that good at guitar but,Slipknot isnt good and Mick claims to have been playing for 20 years.Doesn't look like it shows.It's all drop tuned 1 finger powerchords.His atte,pts at "solos" on the new album are all chromatic,sloppy,showoff,and they don't develope their songs or show any feel or emotion.What are you alls thoughts?
 
Old 2004-06-14, 02:23
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I haven't heard the solos on the new album, so i don't know if they're chromatic or sloppy.
it's you're opinion that they're "showoff , and they don't develope their songs or show any feel or emotion"
but slipknot aren't just all 1 finger drop-tuned power-chords. that's objective, that can be proven, and you're definitely wrong.
Another thing is, the playing on a record doesn't necessarily reflect the true ability of a guitarist. He may have made the solos easy so he can play them live without difficulty, but you don't know how well he can shred off record. He could be a real virtuoso, but just chooses not to (just like on the previous albums by not even soloing at all)

I think your opinion is biased by your hatred of Slipknot's music
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Old 2004-06-14, 02:37
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i think that mick is a very good guitarist and he doesnt get any credit and he should his solos arent sloppy at all there damm hard thats what they are and his playing isnt just drop d power chords there in all different types of tuning like c and they are definetly not power chords, try learn left behind now thats got a classic intro and try learning the pulse of the maggots solo its crazy, once you learn those songs then you can start saying bad stuff about them on a web site you wanker
 
Old 2004-06-14, 02:49
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na, na, it IS all one fingered A tuned power chords.

and another quote by the great Mick Thompson from a guitar magazine i bought last year:

"Death metal is all drop tuned, high gain pop music...i'm proud of being nu-metal, it is now the future of metal."

Well, nu-metal is now dead, death metal still going strong and i think the "pop music comment" is the wrong way around
 
Old 2004-06-14, 02:56
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i think that mick is a very good guitarist and he doesnt get any credit and he should his solos arent sloppy at all there damm hard thats what they are and his playing isnt just drop d power chords there in all different types of tuning like c and they are definetly not power chords, try learn left behind now thats got a classic intro and try learning the pulse of the maggots solo its crazy, once you learn those songs then you can start saying bad stuff about them on a web site you wanker


You're an idiot.I learned how to play Slipknot songs when I first started playing guitar.They don't even tune to C.They use drop B and drop A.I guess you consider overrated simplicity "crazy".
 
Old 2004-06-14, 02:57
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I think Mick isn't bad, but he would have to leave Slipknot to get any respect from most folks on this forum. This is supposed to be their last album together as Slipknot, so hopfully Mick does get away from the other 8 and does something respectful after they are done touring. I heard some of the solos on this last CD... Not bad! Showed he really had talent, to me.
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Old 2004-06-14, 03:04
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I haven't heard the solos on the new album, so i don't know if they're chromatic or sloppy.
it's you're opinion that they're "showoff , and they don't develope their songs or show any feel or emotion"
but slipknot aren't just all 1 finger drop-tuned power-chords. that's objective, that can be proven, and you're definitely wrong.
Another thing is, the playing on a record doesn't necessarily reflect the true ability of a guitarist. He may have made the solos easy so he can play them live without difficulty, but you don't know how well he can shred off record. He could be a real virtuoso, but just chooses not to (just like on the previous albums by not even soloing at all)

I think your opinion is biased by your hatred of Slipknot's music


I'm not judging his ability by what he writes in Slipknot.But he criticizes people who play for a small amount of time by the music that they play,and he claims he's played for 20 years and thats the shit he writes?!?And it is drop tuned 1 finger power chords buddy,that is true and I'm not wrong on that.Just look at their tabs.Yeah maybe they throw in some weird effect here and there.And I don't "hate" Slipknot's music,I feel it's bullshit that a person talks that much shit and is guilty of what he shows disdain for.
 
Old 2004-06-14, 03:48
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To all of you raggin on Slipknot:

Look, it's soulful music, it has emotion. It's not your style, but guess what, they're famous and you're not. So you raggin on them amounts to a pile of maggot infested dogshit. Is it simple? Hell yes it is, but guess what simple doesn't mean it sucks. Alot of good music is simple, look at AC/DC. For fucks sake, look at Black Sabbath. Being a technical whiz is great, but it takes more than being technical to write a good song. Personally, I don't care much for Slipknot, but I'm not gonna say that they suck.

I do agree with you that they shouldn't be raggin on the bands that are opening for them. That makes them just as bad, and yeah Mick should shut the fuck up.
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Old 2004-06-14, 03:59
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Being famous doesnt mean shit. Great you do something that the mass media consumer like, wow that is awesome. Look at some other poeple who are famous, yeah they are all awesome.

EDIT: About the solos, you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even know what chormatic means? I looked at the tab for Pulse of The Maggots and the solos are actually decent. Since when in fuck are arpeggios chromatic? Well unless you strech your hand out for no reason to make it look hard.
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Old 2004-06-14, 04:56
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I think you can download a movie clip of Joey playing a line6 (on the line6 official site), he plays some decent stuff I remember.
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If Mick left Slipknot he wouldn't be considered nearly as bad of a guitarist. Drop D and other drop tunings are alright if you utilize them properly. Take a look at shadows fall. They use drop C tuning and are amazing with it. A lot of slipknot stuff is simple 000-11-00-1-00-2-3-4- kind of stuff. Only thing that truly makes it hard is the speed and that isn't entirely fast either.
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Mick is the only one with any true metal blood out of the 9, imo.

That Joey dude ( if thats the other guitarist ) lost all respect with me after that Stone Sour shit, and he plays some damn Fender in Slipknot, I think. Now I'm not saying that a good metal guitarist can't be metal with a Fender, but I think that Micks' custom B.C. Rich warrock is better made for the job and reflects that Mick has heart and knowledge is based in real metal. No matter what he said in some damn interview, I believe that he can be brought to the light...uh, darkness or something.
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Old 2004-06-14, 08:57
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Mick plays a Bich now... which looks cool as fuck btw.
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Old 2004-06-14, 10:49
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Heh, you guys REALLY don't like Slipknot, but i don't understand why you have such hatred, i find it rather odd

Mick is a bloody good guitarist if you ask me (which no-one ever does....).
Shit I don't care how simple Slipknot songs are to play, does that really matter? The most technical song in the world can still be complete shite, i like Slipknot because they are simple and straight to the point, they don't piss about trying to impress people with flashy guitar solos etc... They make good straight-to-your-face music that makes a welcome change from really technical guitar. Though, hell i do like technical death metal as much as the next guy here, but i can't listen to that all the time, shit, I even listen to REM (let the flames commence!)


BTW Joey is the drummer
 
Old 2004-06-14, 11:23
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it is true that mick plays 20 years guitar now ? I thought he started palying only 1 - 2 years before slipknot became famous! XD
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Old 2004-06-14, 12:12
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hell i do like technical death metal as much as the next guy here, but i can't listen to that all the time,


Agreed - theres a bit too much musical snobbery round here...
 
Old 2004-06-14, 13:10
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I don't care for him, I don't think he's an extraordinairy guitarist.

he's probably one of the better nu-metal guitarist, so what? still doesn't make him no Randy Rhoads.
 
Old 2004-06-14, 13:49
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For all we know, he's probably holding back, after playing for over 20 years and doing so many shows, the guy can probably shred it. Maybe the other bandmembers would feel bad if he'd steal the spotlight.

For the record slipknot can gargle my balls.
 
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For all we know, he's probably holding back, after playing for over 20 years and doing so many shows, the guy can probably shred it. Maybe the other bandmembers would feel bad if he'd steal the spotlight.

For the record slipknot can gargle my balls.


Yes, I could see the rest of the Slipknot members crying to Mick, "Hey man, come on! Stop playing shit that you know the rest of us can't follow. You going to make to rest of us look and sound like shit"
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Old 2004-06-14, 15:43
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Slapnut=nu metal. No more needs to be said, put them right there with your fuckin Mudvayne, and your Linkin Park. Fuck any band who throws a Dj in the mix and still tries to call it metal. They have 9 members all of which participate in homosexual activities together, as for Mick the dicklick who if he has really played for 20 years needs to just quit, or just man up and show us he really is a bad ass, which he isn't. Fuck nu-metal all you 13 year old ugly, fat "maggots" need to go get some fucking real music, and burn all that shit you previously had, one day you will look back and say "what the fuck was I doing to my brain."
And another thing if you simplicity in METAL slipkot is the wrong band to listen to, cause they aren't metal. Go get a Cannibal Corpse cd or somthing.
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He might have played for 20 years, but it doesnt show in their music. I donät get any emotion out when i listen to it, like if im for example annoyed or a bit angry , then i go listen to Slayer and it goes away, or if im thinking about taking up the guitar for some practice, but at the same time im lame i go listen to Damageplan or Machine Head or shit and i get motivated to play. This doesnt happen when i listen to Slipknot, i dont feel shit...
 
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Shit, i've seen what Mick can do, he really is a bloody good guitarist, he can shred with the best of them.
BOSE, why should Mick Thompson have to prove himself to you? Are you in a world famous band?
I have most of CC's albums, how dare you attempt to say that what you listen to is better than everything else, that I am a spotty 13 year old, at least i'm open minded and certainly not arrogant enough to claim that, for instance, just because i might think that Run DMC are better than Pantera that acutally means it's true (i don't by the way ) You really need to open your mind, it's no good arsing about a forum telling everyone else what's wrong with their taste in music. To be honest, no one cares, if you're gonna rant about something you could at least try and use a decent argument instead of "Because I say so". (I'm posting because i'm bored and have no life )
A few of you here are very eletist in your thoughts on music, death metal isn't superior to all other forms of music, it's just one of many.
 
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If theres a member of Slipknot I respect it would be Mick. But thats IF. He's not a bad guitarist but theres plenty of other guitarists in real metal that could smoke him.
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Old 2004-06-14, 18:30
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And it is drop tuned 1 finger power chords buddy,that is true and I'm not wrong on that.Just look at their tabs.


i've looked at their tabs, show me one song that contains only 1 finger power chords.
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The point is, is that Mick is a whinny little ignorant bitch. "You can't play for 4 years and play gigs". Bull fucking shit. I've been playing for 2 years and I've played a show that involved a.....*gasps*....SWEEP ARPEGGIO! No big deal but it goes to show Mick is wrong. I don't give a shit if he blows away Michael Angelo when he's sitting in his room jamming. He's still very shitty for 20 years of playing. I'll believe he doesn't use 1 finger on every song. Hell, he probobly uses 2. But he sucks my left nut so theres my 2 cents.

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I don't give a shit if he blows away Michael Angelo when he's sitting in his room jamming. He's still very shitty for 20 years of playing.


I agree what diffrence does it make if you can shred while your just sitting around the fact that he has an inability to incorperate that talent into his music still makes him a bad guitarist. It is also my opinion that if you have been playing seriously for 20 years you should be GODLY, his lack of pride and dedication to his music makes him nearly as bad of a guitarist as if he could not play at all (which has not been proven otherwise).
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Old 2004-06-14, 20:27
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he's an alright guitarist, nothing special although i did here a couple of decent solo's coming from him when he was having a jamming session with satriani in this mag. anyways slipknots new stuff is really really shite, the solo's are pretty crappy, they sounded like poorly imitated and very shite slayer solo's. There early stuff at the start of their career is far more interesting
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A few of you here are very eletist in your thoughts on music, death metal isn't superior to all other forms of music, it's just one of many.


My thoughts exactly. People shouldn't be such cockmasters about their music.
 
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Shit, i've seen what Mick can do, he really is a bloody good guitarist, he can shred with the best of them.
BOSE, why should Mick Thompson have to prove himself to you? Are you in a world famous band?
I have most of CC's albums, how dare you attempt to say that what you listen to is better than everything else, that I am a spotty 13 year old, at least i'm open minded and certainly not arrogant enough to claim that, for instance, just because i might think that Run DMC are better than Pantera that acutally means it's true (i don't by the way ) You really need to open your mind, it's no good arsing about a forum telling everyone else what's wrong with their taste in music. To be honest, no one cares, if you're gonna rant about something you could at least try and use a decent argument instead of "Because I say so". (I'm posting because i'm bored and have no life )
A few of you here are very eletist in your thoughts on music, death metal isn't superior to all other forms of music, it's just one of many.


He wants us (the real metal fans) to accept him. By saying all that shit i think that clearyl states that he desperatly wants to be accepted by the REAL metal community. Either way.... its still NU-Metal helll this should just be called Nu-Metaltabs.com .... the mods dont do anything to prevent bullshit thread like this, hell theirs porbably at least 3 actvie ones right now.
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He wants us (the real metal fans) to accept him. By saying all that shit i think that clearyl states that he desperatly wants to be accepted by the REAL metal community. Either way.... its still NU-Metal helll this should just be called Nu-Metaltabs.com .... the mods dont do anything to prevent bullshit thread like this, hell theirs porbably at least 3 actvie ones right now.

Haha!! Nice one! Yeah, why did we start another 'Slipknot sucks cock' thread?
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I'm getting sick of hearing about slipknot...
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It does get rather old rather fast. I'm sure most people here really don't care
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Old 2004-06-15, 12:58
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Man grow a skin or something, if the nu-metal threads piss you off so much don't enter them.
 
Old 2004-06-15, 14:00
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everybody is confusing the band with the guitarist's ability. i hate the band as much as the next metal fan, but atif said it all right after this was posted.
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I judge his playing ability on what he has release... all of which sucks. I win
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Old 2004-06-15, 16:48
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Slapnut=nu metal. No more needs to be said, put them right there with your fuckin Mudvayne, and your Linkin Park. Fuck any band who throws a Dj in the mix and still tries to call it metal. They have 9 members all of which participate in homosexual activities together, as for Mick the dicklick who if he has really played for 20 years needs to just quit, or just man up and show us he really is a bad ass, which he isn't. Fuck nu-metal all you 13 year old ugly, fat "maggots" need to go get some fucking real music, and burn all that shit you previously had, one day you will look back and say "what the fuck was I doing to my brain."
And another thing if you simplicity in METAL slipkot is the wrong band to listen to, cause they aren't metal. Go get a Cannibal Corpse cd or somthing.

you, like alot of narrow-minded idiots on this forum, seem to think that death metal is all metal. why do you think it is called death metal, and not just metal? BECAUSE IT ISNT THE ONLY TYPE OF METAL, IDIOT. i've said it before, i'll say it again. this forum is not only for death metal, so dont go have a seizure over people who like other stuff.
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you, like alot of narrow-minded idiots on this forum, seem to think that death metal is all metal. why do you think it is called death metal, and not just metal? BECAUSE IT ISNT THE ONLY TYPE OF METAL, IDIOT. i've said it before, i'll say it again. this forum is not only for death metal, so dont go have a seizure over people who like other stuff.


Oh damn, not this shit again
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Yay... the nu-metal vs death metal begins again... I´m so happy that I read it all over again...
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Old 2004-06-15, 17:31
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i hate nu metal, but i hate pricks who put people down for liking it even more. why can't you accept that it is what it is and if you dont like it dont get involved with it
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