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Old 2004-04-26, 07:25
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Metalcore & Hardcore :)

Metalcore and Hxc is rarely talked about on these forums. To me Metalcore and hxc is the best type of metal does anyone feel the same ? Maybe its still fairly new to most metalheads. Some ppl feel this new style of metal is fake and the way they dress is not ''metal'' what ever the fuck that means. anyway
ive been listening to metalcore, hxc for 4 years now and my top 5 bands are:
The Black Dahlia Murder, Blood Has Been Shed, Sky Came Falling, Prayer for cleansing, it Dies Today. For those who havent heard those bands check em out...brutal as fuck with such emotion. anyone else who likes this type of music list your top 5 bands...maybe ill learn of some new kick ass bands
 
Old 2004-04-26, 08:01
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Metalcore is the new metal "trend". Not that I have anything against it, I can tolerate it more than nu-metal, but I just can't get into it.
 
Old 2004-04-26, 09:37
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Metalcore is OK but I prefer noise/math/whatever-it's-called-now-core (which often gets included within metalcore). I can't stomach the vast majority of Hardcore though. But anyway, here are my lists (in no particular order):

Noise/mathcore:

1. Dillinger Escape Plan
2. Drowningman (RIP)
3. Converge
4. Candiria
5. Botch

Metalcore:

1. The Hope Conspiracy
2. Stamping Ground (UK)
3. Underule (UK)
4. Burnt By The Sun
5. KsE
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Old 2004-04-26, 09:40
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Converge and Dillinger Escape Plan are very fucking weird.
 
Old 2004-04-26, 09:46
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Yeah, moreso Dillinger I reckon. When I first heard Calculating Infinity, I couldn't make head nor tail of it with all the weird time signatures, blast beating (completely unexpected - I thought blasting only occured in DM and BM at the time!) and super fast jazz leads going on. It is one of those albums that gets better with each listen and the musicianship on that record is some of the most impressive I've heard.
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Old 2004-04-26, 12:51
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Old 2004-04-26, 14:29
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metalcore has been around for a while, hardcore for much, muuuch longer.

my favorite metalcore bands:

Caliban
Heaven Shall Burn
Fear My Thoughts
Unearth
Arkangel
ZAO


hardcore bands:

xMaroonx
Shockwave
xDisciplex a.d.
Shai Hulud
Congress
Backfire!

and loads more, also some oldskool shit like madball, which I saw yesterday

Converge and DEP are cool to see live but I can't listen to their cd's for more then a few songs.
 
Old 2004-04-26, 15:37
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yea both have been around for a while but for some reason both are jsut now starting to surface in the metal world.. i just saw black dahlia murder in concert..omfg go see them if u have the chance , the whole time i felt like kicking ass and punching ppl. dilinger escape , converge and zao arent really my taste i like brutality mixed with melodic, im pretty picky with metalcore.
 
Old 2004-04-26, 17:36
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i'm not really into it but i did heard a Hatebreed song that was pretty catchy. reminded me of Pantera.
 
Old 2004-04-26, 18:45
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Dillinger are a pretty fuckin crazy ass band, i remember seein them on tv ages ago.
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Old 2004-04-26, 19:54
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The Red Chord are the only metalcore band I like and they are very metal and quite technical. I hate hardcore and the whole scene.
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Old 2004-04-26, 20:03
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I can stand Converge, Old Sworn Enemy and hatebreed. Other than that i dotn really get into hardcore, metal core w/e the fuck you wanna call it..
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Old 2004-04-26, 20:33
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I like Dillinger Escape Plan(Calculating Infinity is
great) , Zao,25 Ta Life(well the few songs I have),
Kickback and Uphill Battle(if you consider them hardcore)
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Hardcore is now beginning to start being called part of the punk rock genre. And I hate the vocals.
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Old 2004-04-26, 23:40
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I like Dillinger Escape Plan(Calculating Infinity is
great) , Zao,25 Ta Life(well the few songs I have),
Kickback and Uphill Battle(if you consider them hardcore)


That's funny...cause ZAO is a Christian band.
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Old 2004-04-26, 23:55
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I like Heaven Shall Burn, that's about it.
 
Old 2004-04-27, 00:46
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Converge is awesome, but I don't know about them being harcore. As for hardcore, I think it is extreamly redundant, overdone, and boring. It all sounds like a carbon copy to me, espically the breakdowns.
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As for hardcore, I think it is extreamly redundant, overdone, and boring. It all sounds like a carbon copy to me, espically the breakdowns.


No other band typifies this more than Hatebreed if you ask me. The first single off their "new" album sounds exactly the same as the first single off their last album. Bore me to tears, they do.

Converge on the other hand are masters of their trade. When's their new album out? I've not seen an interview or any news on them for a while now but they seem to have been in the studio for the past year or something.
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Core=SHIT

Its like emo punk music mixed with wussy metal. That equals shit.
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Old 2004-04-27, 07:54
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emo punk music mixed with wussy metal, lmao, yeah you probably heard some really descent hardcore

Dead mentioned the red chord, if you like those guys check out Fear My Thoughts (super technical) and Unearth (melodic metalcore)
 
Old 2004-04-27, 20:31
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caliban
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still breathing
norma jean
underoath
heaven shall burn
raised fist
every time i die
madball (i guess)
kse
hatebreed
day of contempt
bleeding through
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Old 2004-04-27, 21:06
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Poison the Well is a good example of how shitty hardcore is
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Old 2004-04-27, 22:13
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Name some non-shitty, non-emo bullshit lets all sing in harmony during the chorus "metalcore" bands.... Seems like ozzfest is gonna be alot of that bullshit. I hope theirs one decent band on the seconds stage besides Lamb of God and hatebreed (good live show)
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Poison the Well is a good example of how shitty hardcore is

Lol I know. They totaly suck. I saw them on HBB once and I just laughed...
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Name some non-shitty, non-emo bullshit lets all sing in harmony during the chorus "metalcore" bands.... Seems like ozzfest is gonna be alot of that bullshit. I hope theirs one decent band on the seconds stage besides Lamb of God and hatebreed (good live show)


2nd stage will suck. I wish there wasn't so many of those bands... Like maybe one death metal band... That would be cool. Main stage is going to be better. SSSLLLAAAYYYEEERRR!!! PRIEST!!! Last years main stage totally fucking BLEW... Korn, Disturbed, Marlyn Manson, Chevelle ? ? ? ? ? Fuck that. The 2nd stage last year blew too. This year will be much better.
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I didnt even know half the abdn that played last year... who the fuck is the Datsuns??? and why the hell where they first stage?? And BLS didnt even play.... that was truly the shittiest ozzfest ever.... oh but wait CoF headlined the secodns stage
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Oooh COF... I LOVE Dani Filth and his dying rat vocals. It's like soooooooo sexy! NOT! COF? Yeah, that's A LOT to get excited about.
 
Old 2004-04-28, 08:54
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Name some non-shitty, non-emo bullshit lets all sing in harmony during the chorus "metalcore" bands....


Check my list of metalcore bands on the previous page. I reckon you'll like 4 out of 5 (with KsE being the exception). Stampin' Ground (www.stampin-ground.co.uk) and Underule (check this link for more info: http://www.sonicdeath.co.uk/reviews...age.asp?aID=367) are particularly excellent and are more riff based than most metalcore bands.

EDIT: Actually, swap out KsE in my list for a UK band called Onedice. How could I forget them?! These guys are awesome. Their album, Life, is 9 songs and 22 minutes long and it's simply amazing. It's hard to find info on these guys but they're on Infernal Records.
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Old 2004-04-28, 10:18
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Poison the Well is a good example of how shitty hardcore is

yeah, you know why that is? because they're not hardcore!

they're emocore. poop.

if you want some metalcore to enjoy check out Arkangel, Unearth, Caliban, xMaroonx, I like those bands more then most shitty metalbands which all do the same thing over and over again.

societys finest, I saw 90% of those bands live :P
 
Old 2004-04-28, 14:10
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Old 2004-04-28, 14:38
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i kinda like Ryker's, Backfire, Biohazard, Clawfinger and Pro-Pain (alot)
 
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haha the doc is an oldskool motherfucker, wh would have thought of that
 
Old 2004-04-28, 16:13
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You did the cool little "o" thingy.

Pro-Pain are cool.
 
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Poison the well is terrible. Some kids that go to my school listen to them and they wear those stupid glasses and they cry a lot.
 
Old 2004-04-28, 16:39
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I'd wear this. To bed, maybe.
 
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I'd wear this. To bed, maybe.

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I'd wear this. To bed, maybe.


Some kid at my school has that shirt and he is like king, depressed quiet emo kid with wrist bands and jeans that are 2 sizes two small, ect ect.
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No.

They got that wussy emo vocals going on. I FUCKING HATE THAT EMO SHIT. Mostly because my sister listens to emo and it annoys me. Then I just plug my cd player into amp and blast Pit of Zombies by Cannibal Corpse. She gets mad and its funny.

I also got this Shadows Fall shirt (ok band, I like them) that says "eating emo kids for breakfast" and my sister got mad at me for it.

Lol.
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Old 2004-04-29, 19:57
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every time i go to GC its loaded with emo fags playin the most basic chord riffs
..and the thing that pisses me off the most is chicks dig there style of dress. i cantr stand those guys with their hair combed over one eye, fuckin A man this has to stop.
 
Old 2004-04-29, 23:25
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metalcore/hardcore is for pussies.
 
Old 2004-04-30, 10:49
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Old 2004-05-02, 22:16
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im not a big fan of hardcore but i like a lot groups like hatebreed, black dahlia murder, atreyu and stuff like that
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No.

They got that wussy emo vocals going on. I FUCKING HATE THAT EMO SHIT. Mostly because my sister listens to emo and it annoys me. Then I just plug my cd player into amp and blast Pit of Zombies by Cannibal Corpse. She gets mad and its funny.

I also got this Shadows Fall shirt (ok band, I like them) that says "eating emo kids for breakfast" and my sister got mad at me for it.

Lol.

i agree
lol i saw that shirt..pretty funny shit..
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this is thread is old but whatever
a few months ago i listened to a bit of hXc and didnt really mind, infact i started to enjoy it alot
after a few months it just got old to me though
but some of my favourite hXc bands are:
xThrowdownx (i just gotta repsect how insanely sXe they are, even though sXe is gay)
From autumn to ashes
Nj bloodline
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in my mind none of these bands have any real staying power except for FATA
 
Old 2004-06-06, 01:56
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i've got one thing to say to all you kids ...if you wanna know what hardcore is , It dies today is hardcore , they are the definition . and thats kinda funny you're making fun of emo kids ...because they aren't ignorant and make fun of 'us' 'metal' kids , fuck , half of you are posers , and i like arguing !!
 
Old 2004-06-06, 01:59
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oh and metalcore/hardcore is for pussies? huh ok...you're a real metal satan worshipper ...?
 
Old 2004-06-06, 02:02
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and if any of you are push moshers , i fuckin hate you fags
 
Old 2004-06-06, 09:36
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Old 2004-06-07, 19:23
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i dunno i like some hc, metalcore, blackmetal, powermetal, punk, classical, neo-classical, flamenco, fingerstyle, spanish, i don't think i'll ever find a genre that i like everyband of. but i must admit i love hc dancing alot more than the typical run in a circle pushing pit..... just the first moment when the band starts to play and a buuuuuuuuuuuuunch of people push everone back to make room in the middle for hc dancing.... pure excitement!!!
 
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Old 2004-06-09, 15:02
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Hardcore, emo, screamo, metalcore. all for the fags, you know the gay kids who dye their hair black and comb it all to one side, with those gay glasses, and ass tight, shirt and pants, who whine not sing whine through every song. Holy fuck i hate those pussies just talking about it makes me enraged. Oh yea and don't get me started on their gay ass dancing or whatever the fuck that is, perfect opportunity to fucking knock one of those fags out.
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haha, yeah, you sound like you know what you're talking about, prolly been ambushed and cuddled by some emo fags huh?
 
Old 2004-06-10, 14:40
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[QUOTE=BOSE]Hardcore, emo, screamo, metalcore. all for the fags [QUOTE]

Uhh...

www.betweentheburiedandme.com

Listen to "Camilla Rhodes".

Granted, the lead singer looks fruity as fuck but these guys can fucking bring it, heavier than a lot of "tr00" metal.
 
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I don't mind some Metalcore...i don't really catergorize it as metalcore but then again I don't even know what are the qualifications for a band to be metalcore. Anyways ones i do like are:
The Black Dahlia Murder
As Hope Dies
Prayer for Cleansing

Hardcore I can't get into for some reason.
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im trying to listen to some metalcore bands. They seem alright. I like this avenged sevenfold band i might pick up an album of theirs. They have a good guitarist.
 
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im trying to listen to some metalcore bands. They seem alright. I like this avenged sevenfold band i might pick up an album of theirs. They have a good guitarist.


Get Jane Doe by Converge - it's absolutely essential if you want to expand your metalcore collection. Jacob Bannon is an absolute dervish in his vocal delivery and the guitars are crushingly heavy. If you're after KsE style metalcore then look elsewhere, but this album takes you on an intense journey to metalcore fulfilment and as the album's last death throes fade into oblivion you'll sit back in awe of the mastery of the previous 50 minutes.

Also try the brilliant Cold Blue by The Hope Conspiracy - after 22 minutes of whirlwind fury and buzzsaw riffs you'll be wondering how you ever got by without hearing them. Ten songs of pure energy that will have you reaching for the repeat button in no time.

Other bands/albums to check out:

Drowningman (RIP) - Rock And Roll Killing Machine. This is one of those albums that gets better with each listen - genius. Simon Brody's delivery is excellent and the guitarists rarely play the same thing as each other but it works to perfection.

Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity. Again, an album that just keeps getting better and better with each listen. You'll find some nice blast-beating coupled with angular riffs in stark contrast to calm passages and jazzy interludes. This album is a perfect example of a group of guys who are perfect exponents of complex and technical music.

Stamping Ground - Carved From Empty Words. A mixture of riffs that Slayer would be proud of and HC beatdowns. Unlike hardcore however, they have that little bit extra that keeps your attention for more than 3 minutes.
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Someone recommended the red chord in another thread and from what I can tell, they're pretty good. I would also recommend bleeding through, from here on and 100 demons.
 
Old 2004-06-14, 18:23
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As I lay dying is good too, their song 94 hours is pretty much straight up melodic death.
 
Old 2004-06-14, 21:35
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man...I listened to a couple songs by converge, and im not a big fan of the vocals. I can't stand vocals that don't even sound like words. It just seems like a big mess to me. You can barely even hear their guitars
 
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Get Jane Doe by Converge - it's absolutely essential if you want to expand your metalcore collection. Jacob Bannon is an absolute dervish in his vocal delivery and the guitars are crushingly heavy. If you're after KsE style metalcore then look elsewhere, but this album takes you on an intense journey to metalcore fulfilment and as the album's last death throes fade into oblivion you'll sit back in awe of the mastery of the previous 50 minutes.



Agreed - somewhat. This album I think is to fast paced and aggressive for metalcore. I would put this close to grindcore. It is a great album either way. Espically Heaven in Her Arms! FUCK that song gest me off!
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get I won't see you tonight (part 1) by avenged sevenfold its a great song
 
Old 2004-06-14, 22:32
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You guys should check out Arkangel, xMaroonx, Heaven Shall Burn and Destiny, I'm pretty sure you'll like them.

as for the chaotic shit, Dillinger Escape Plan.

and more hardcore oriented metalcore, congress, Deadlock and Caliban.

if you want I can upload some mp3's.
 
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Am I the only one who thinks all of arkangel's songs sound alike?
 
Old 2004-06-15, 17:06
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Name some non-shitty, non-emo bullshit lets all sing in harmony during the chorus "metalcore" bands.... Seems like ozzfest is gonna be alot of that bullshit. I hope theirs one decent band on the seconds stage besides Lamb of God and hatebreed (good live show)

are you saying that anybody who doesnt try to sound like an evil satanic bastard and constantly trying to make a less human-like sound with his voice is alot better than some1 who can shout and sing? you need to widen your tastes my friend..
as for metalcore bands:
The Black Dahlia Murder
KsE
Stampin Ground
As I Lay Dying

theyre all good.

also hardcore isnt metal, metalcore is the cross between hardcore and metal, so it is ok to be mentioned here, but hardcore shouldnt.. (everytime i die, poison the well)
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are you saying that anybody who doesnt try to sound like an evil satanic bastard and constantly trying to make a less human-like sound with his voice is alot better than some1 who can shout and sing? you need to widen your tastes my friend..
as for metalcore bands:
The Black Dahlia Murder
KsE
Stampin Ground
As I Lay Dying

theyre all good.

also hardcore isnt metal, metalcore is the cross between hardcore and metal, so it is ok to be mentioned here, but hardcore shouldnt.. (everytime i die, poison the well)


Dude, 90% of the time I see your post you attack people and then call them your friend. Just post what you think and stop screening the threads to target just one persons point of view. Not trying to piss you off but you are pissing me off.
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Dude, 90% of the time I see your post you attack people and then call them your friend. Just post what you think and stop screening the threads to target just one persons point of view. Not trying to piss you off but you are pissing me off.

i do not have anything against anybody on this forum if they have nothing against me. i just like to let people know what i think of what they say, that is what forums are for... Now all you do is find my post, not even read it and have a go at me for it. for that, i think you are a nob, and that you should do what you are telling me to do:
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constantly trying to make a less human-like sound with his voice


less human-like voice... so that's the reason why Ross Dolan sounds like my cat. sure...
 
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Am I the only one who thinks all of arkangel's songs sound alike?


well i like arkangel..but i have to agree with this. not completely the same...but they just don't have any variety. not to mention its pretty easy to play. if you like punk and metal..you will probably like them..just don't expect to be blown away by anything new/ground breaking.

hah found this randomly online and thought it would be enjoyed by some people here.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c...er/ourscene.jpg
 
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Last post in this thread was over 2 years ago... I doubt that guy is even an active member anymore.


yea i wasn't really posting it for anyone in particular. i just searched threads with hardcore in the title and this had the most posts.
 
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i do not have anything against anybody on this forum if they have nothing against me. i just like to let people know what i think of what they say, that is what forums are for... Now all you do is find my post, not even read it and have a go at me for it. for that, i think you are a nob, and that you should do what you are telling me to do:


Forums are for people to discuss things, no one could give two shits about what you think about the things they say. You told someone to widen their tastes because they wanted an example of metalcore that didnt have fruity radio friendly choruses and predictable breakdowns, and you took this to mean he only wants satan himself to sing each and every lyric. And that MY FRIEND, is retarded.
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Forums are for people to discuss things, no one could give two shits about what you think about the things they say. You told someone to widen their tastes because they wanted an example of metalcore that didnt have fruity radio friendly choruses and predictable breakdowns, and you took this to mean he only wants satan himself to sing each and every lyric. And that MY FRIEND, is retarded.



man, thats a 2 year old post from a dude who most likely doesnt post here anymore.
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Haha yea you're right, I saw that Soulinsane posted before him and for some reason assumed it was recent. My bad.
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About metalcore, Bring Me The Horizon is a great band I just discovered. Their first album comes out Oct. 30th.
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Exclamation bulls**t!!!

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Hardcore is now beginning to start being called part of the punk rock genre.


...is the bullshittiest thing i've ever heard someone say about hardcore. hardcore WAS in fact being born from punk rock in the early 80s in the US (mostly nyc, d.c., west coast).
ever heard about bands like minor threat? teen idles? black flag? dead kennedys? only to name the most prominent...

what some (stupid supid) people nowadays call hardcore has nothing to do with real hardcore AT ALL. it is mere bad metal or metalcore they talk about here (remember biohazard etc.?). this is a style that (obviously) came from metal whereas hardcore came from punk. full stop.

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...is the bullshittiest thing i've ever heard someone say about hardcore. hardcore WAS in fact being born from punk rock in the early 80s in the US (mostly nyc, d.c., west coast).
ever heard about bands like minor threat? teen idles? black flag? dead kennedys? only to name the most prominent...

what some (stupid supid) people nowadays call hardcore has nothing to do with real hardcore AT ALL. it is mere bad metal or metalcore they talk about here (remember biohazard etc.?). this is a style that (obviously) came from metal whereas hardcore came from punk. full stop.

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check out Burst. They opened for Mastodon and Opeth and i liked them, so i looked them up and they're pretty good.

they're from gothenburg, sweden and they're different cause they have a sort of progressive sound, i'd say they were kind of metalcore. http://www.burst.nu/ http://www.myspace.com/burstrelapse

i also like heaven shall burn, caliban and lamb of god. thats about the extent of my likings for metalcore/hardcore.

i dont understand people who say that its for wusses. sure its not as fast or heavy and the vocals are sometimes decipherable, i.e not the cookie monster vocals, but its different to other forms of metal (if it is a form of metal, but thats a whole other argument). im glad i can enjoy both death/black/more extreme forms of metal and the more mainstream metal like metalcore.

i also like heaven shall burn, caliban and lamb of god. thats about the extent of my likings for metalcore/hardcore.

i dont understand people who say that its for wusses. sure its not as fast or heavy and the vocals are sometimes decipherable, i.e not the cookie monster vocals, but its different to other forms of metal (if it is a form of metal, but thats a whole other argument). im glad i can enjoy both death/black/more extreme forms of metal and the more mainstream metal like metalcore.
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I didn't like Burst at all, they were so dull! Caliban were pretty good though, but i don't really listen to 'core
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As for metalcore, I enjoy just some metalcore (f.e. Silent Civilian is good, newest Trivium album is allright) but most of it is horrible to me. What turns me off most about metalcore is the horrible, horrible screams, especially Lamb of God's vocals really hurt my fucking ears, and the way metalcore singers seem to sounds exactly the same, just as the melodies they sing. The music itself is all pretty much the same too, the riffs are all melodyized thrash-riffs and most songs have 'brutal', screamed stanzas and a 'catchy', sung and melodic refrain.

I really, however, enjoy hardcore. Bands like Refused and Abhinanda and bands that fuse punk, thrash or other genres of music (f.e. rap) like Dead Kennedys, the Exploited, Biohazard, Blood For Blood.
Sludgecore is good, too (eyehategod) and hardcore fused with ska w1ns.

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