2004-04-16, 14:11
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Line 6 Spider II's
Anyone own or used one of these? I think it's gonna be my next amp, just wondering what everyone thinks of it.
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2004-04-16, 21:19
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my guitarist got a 2x12 one for christmas... 20 minutes into it's first pratice he took it back because it lacked in volume and tone.
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2004-04-16, 22:07
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i've not tried one of these, but to me it seems like a Nu-metal amp... slipknot and evanessence use them
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2004-04-16, 22:22
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I used to own a line 6 flextone. I was stuck with it for about 2 years. There was pretty much no good clean sound and nothing had that nice round, full sound. Everything sounded flat, the tone was shit, and the distortion was shit as well.
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2004-04-16, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Perdition City
i've not tried one of these, but to me it seems like a Nu-metal amp... slipknot and evanessence use them
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whoever told you that was lying.
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2004-04-17, 09:14
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whoever told you that was lying.
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told me that slipknot and evanessence use them? to be honest the official website told me.......
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2004-04-17, 14:57
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2004-04-17, 19:01
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Originally Posted by Perdition City
told me that slipknot and evanessence use them? to be honest the official website told me.......
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evanessence... maybe, but they completely suck.
slipknot however.... they might be getting paid to say they use line 6 spider II's so nu-metal kids will buy them, but last i knew 4(i don't know their names, but he's the guy with the jackson) uses a mesa dual caliber dc-10 with a mesa 4x12 and a carvin 4x12... and 7(the guy with the warlock) used a rack setup primarily made up of a marshall jmp-1, a boss gx-700 and a mesa simul-class poweramp pushing a pair of carvin 4x12s....
i doubt they actually switched from all that NICE gear to cheap little line 6 amps that are only trying to imitate the amps they already have.
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2004-04-17, 23:06
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man, what a waste of time... you actually found out what slipknot use....
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2004-04-18, 06:54
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I tried out one of those. They suck, they say they have the same amp models as my POD Pro, but everthing is flat and weak with the Spider II's. It has about 1/3 of the gain my Pod Pro can get, and the sound is really Nu-metalish, no matter what settings you have
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2004-04-18, 12:03
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I played on a SpiderII yesterday, it's good enough for it's money and for 'modern' stuff (yeah numetal)
But you can't play metal on it. It just doesn't go brutal.
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2004-04-18, 17:45
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man, what a waste of time... you actually found out what slipknot use....
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it took like two minutes, but i knew they didn't actually use those p.o.s. spiders.
alot of guitarists get paid to say they use certain amps, but they many of them just take the labels and decals off there real amps or just get customly decked out versions of the amps they're getting paid to use,
like for example the guy blink from 182(yeah yeah i know.) has a triple recto and like several mesa cabs, but he actually only uses the triple recto as a slave head for his defaced jcm 900. but most non musicians or cant tell it's a marshall without the decal on the front so they just see mesa....
the only line 6 heads actually capable of good heavy tones are the hd147, the flextones, and the vetta.
and even then, for the money that those nice digital amps cost, you could buy a nice all tube marshall,mesa,peavey,crate, or even engl.
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2004-04-24, 21:09
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Wanna hear what the Spider-presets sound like? Go to the Line 6 website.
http://www.line6.com/spiderII/hear.html
There's mp3 samples + Mick's (Slipknot) and Ben's (Evanescence) "home videos".
If it sounds good, it might just be my next amp (I mean the 150W-head + 4x12-cab). They're only like 800 € together (compare: HD147-head costs twice + cab ). Pay 100 € more and you'll get a 4-channel foot switch, which is great . Sounds like a great deal, but the sound might be shitty. Gotta try it someday, however.
Originally I was thinking of a Crate, but because of my location (Finland) I can't really get them. I still have a GX15R (my first amp), great amp for own-room-practice -sessions. Crate has some nice deals too (GX, GLX, BV...)
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2004-07-13, 22:43
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I own one and I think its got EXCELLENT clean tone and its a good amp for the money. As for the metal tones... well they may not go BRUTAL but they dont sound nu mettalish... least not to me but that may be cause i dont drop my mids like a retard.
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2004-07-13, 23:00
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i own a Line 6 spider II 210 combo to me its distortion is badass i like the quality of the models it has, except that the clean lacks the power that the distortion has, for example when ure playing with distortion lets say 1/4 of the volume u can hear it perfectly, but when u change it to clean you can bearly hear it, thats the only thing i dont like about it.....but sice i dont play clean its perfect for me....so thats my opinion, but i encourage you to try it out first like in guitar center or samash or someother local store.
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2004-07-14, 03:06
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I went to that website for the Spider.
That slipknot video was funny because notice how they didnt show his head? They dont want to give away what he looks like!!! OMG
But from those sound clips I didn't think it sounded to great
+ its a line 6... So how can it be good?
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2004-07-14, 08:15
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+ its a line 6... So how can it be good?
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That sounds like a racist saying: hey look, a black man, how can he be good?
I mean, HD-147, Vetta... I played'em and they sound pretty good... + in the Vetta it's like there's a boss GT6 included, what a shitload of options
for the same money, indeed, you can get a all-tube amp but without all the extra options...
(i'm still gonna get a all-tube amp , because I only need a fat distortion & good clean)
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2004-07-14, 10:39
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evanscence or how do you spell it only uses line 6 for practice i think.
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2004-07-14, 17:34
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evanscence or how do you spell it only uses line 6 for practice i think.
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who cares about evanessence? they arent even good nu metal, they're like mtv's "making the band" pop nu metal for 13 year old girls to listen to and act "goth" or "evil"..... it's just lame.
at least some of the members of slipknot actually have trace's of a thing called talent, even if their music doesnt fully show it.
but hell, with the kind of money they make, i guess it's worth letting a label tell you how to write your songs.
some line 6 stuff is alright i guess, the vetta and the hd147 both sound good, as well as a pod through a tube poweramp....
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2004-08-28, 08:03
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Well I only payed around 220 for my combo and I nigger rigged it to go into a cab so it sounds pretty loud and for the money its not bad. Sure nothing compares to a tube tone cranked but tube amps ARE expensive and as I dont have a job...well I'm sure you guys can understand. It sucks being poor!
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2004-08-28, 12:26
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I played on a SpiderII yesterday, it's good enough for it's money and for 'modern' stuff (yeah numetal)
But you can't play metal on it. It just doesn't go brutal.
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i tried the line 6 spider half stack last week after about 5 min i moved on its just no good to me plus ( i think) its all computerised so you can get all the effects and shit and if thats the case then you really cant get that nice warm tube tones with it
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2004-09-06, 22:02
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i got a kick out of that...
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2004-09-07, 11:10
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i have a line 6 spider II but the preamps (is that the correct term?) are not good enough i think. (although the description for the "insane" was pretty cool)
anyone has tried a good pedal with it?
i think i go for the boss mt - 2 metalzone, since i want to play brutal stuff.
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2004-09-07, 18:24
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i have a line 6 spider II but the preamps (is that the correct term?) are not good enough i think. (although the description for the "insane" was pretty cool)
anyone has tried a good pedal with it?
i think i go for the boss mt - 2 metalzone, since i want to play brutal stuff.
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it does have a preamp, but i think you'r thinking of the distortion models... i find them quite lacking in alot of line 6 gear... the higher end stuff is pretty nice though... the hd147 and vetta are both great as well as some of the pod units and rack fx stuff like the mod pro, filter pro, and echo pro....
but the spiders are geared more towards begginers with tight budgets...
i don't think a metal zone could get any better tones than the amp's distortion though. it'll do a nice job making it thinner though .
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2004-09-07, 19:31
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try using a boss od-1 or a ibanez ts-9 or a proco rat. those can all be used as boost units.
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2004-09-07, 20:30
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try using a boss od-1 or a ibanez ts-9 or a proco rat. those can all be used as boost units.
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well, they work good with medium gain tube amps mostly.... but with a digital s.s. amp or that quality, my guess is you'll just get a noisey mess.
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2004-09-07, 22:56
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mmm k i better check things out then before i buy a metalzone, in the shop it costs 110 euros
maybe check it out there and than purchase it elsewhere
and maybe sell that line 6
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2004-09-07, 22:58
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have i said already i understand approximately half of what you are saying xdislexicx. but i think i got the point.
maybe someday ill understand it all.
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i dunno XDX, killswitch engage used ts-9ed rectos to record their first cd. they recently switched to framus cobras. this is true according to harmony central amp forumites though.
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i dunno XDX, killswitch engage used ts-9ed rectos to record their first cd. they recently switched to framus cobras. this is true according to harmony central amp forumites though.
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yeah, but mesa rectos and framus cobras are tube... something about the "warm" "round" compressed" usable headroom in tube amps that makes little boost boxes sound good.... though i don't see why they would need ts9's with a recto or cobra because both have more than enough gain.... their only using it as a grit boost. like most people do to immitate tube saturation at low volumes....
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have i said already i understand approximately half of what you are saying xdislexicx. but i think i got the point.
maybe someday ill understand it all.
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huh? the first sentence didn't make much sense... but yeh, putting one s.s. gain source in front of another s.s. gain source like you line 6 for a gain boost will give you hell for noise...
where as a tube or s.s. gain source in front of a tube amp can actually give a good sound without to much noise...
it's hard to explain, but from personal expereince i find it as kind of a rule of thumb.
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they use it more as a line boos XDX, with the setting like this.
Volume=10
Gain=0
Tone=5
it just tightens up the bass on the recto, and gives a little more head room.
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they use it more as a line boos XDX, with the setting like this.
Volume=10
Gain=0
Tone=5
it just tightens up the bass on the recto, and gives a little more head room.
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that makes sense... a simple pedal or rack unnit can work kinda like a cheap mod... lol... like a sonic maximizer or signal booster. cheaper, easier, and more flexible.... tighten up the bass n' such...
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yeah, i tried one on a 5150s lead setting and it destroyed.
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