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Unbreakable cymbals?
A while back, I heard something about Paiste making some unbreakable cymbals. Does anyone know anything about that? I imagine if they claim they're unbreakable, you can probably still break them but Paiste will replace them for free or something. If so, I just might have to replace all my Zildjian Z customs with some "unbreakable" Paistes. 
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2003-10-30, 18:05
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I have never heard such a thing like that. I doubt it though man, and if they do then why would you switch yours out? You never know if they could sound shitty.
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2003-11-06, 21:36
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you can break any cymbal, some just take more work, most high end cymbals usually wont break as easily, i have paistes, they're the best cymbals out there in my humble opinion,but they can still break(i'm not gonna test em though), ziljians and sabians are good too, but just about everybody has their favorites  .
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2004-02-13, 10:31
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Zildjian recently made some Titanium cymbals, but i still dont think they would be unbreakable, its only a coating.
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2004-03-01, 17:57
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fuck!!!!! i cracked my paiste signature series 18" thin china!, i'm pissed. $250 of non refunable metal that used to sound amazing. but now, with some cutting and stop drilling, it only sounds "good".
p.s.those titanium coated zxt 's sound like trashcan lids(not in a good way).
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2004-03-01, 21:01
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Ok this is an old thread I know but oh well... Those titanium one's are the most shittiest cymbals. All these gay ass bands put up things like quotes saying how good they sound and all. Don't know about that one. 
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2004-04-13, 00:08
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Thats good to know, i was thinking of buying those cymbals, they are going pretty cheap at MusiciansFriend. Now i know why 
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2004-04-14, 14:20
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Do you guys use jackhammers on your cymbals or something? I've never seen a drummer break a cymbal in my life, and I've been around quite a few.
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2004-04-17, 19:42
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they must be tight on money 
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2004-07-03, 00:56
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Paiste Rudes would be pretty fucking hard to break just by playing them and zildjian Z customs and sabian metal xs.
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2004-07-04, 15:26
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Paiste Rude Classics are what I wan't. I don't have a damn bit of money at all for any though but one day I am going to start saving up for some of those. Paiste Rudes are my favorite cymbal so far I think.
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2004-09-10, 15:58
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How the fuck do you break a cymbal? Ive been playing for like 5 years and i beat the shit out of my drums and i've never broken a cymbal.
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2004-09-10, 22:44
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Originally Posted by SixfeetUnder420
How the fuck do you break a cymbal? Ive been playing for like 5 years and i beat the shit out of my drums and i've never broken a cymbal.
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Cheap cymbals break easily. I broke my first 18" crash ride in about two months. Hitting that cymbal was like...i cant even describe it. The thing sounded like shit and was so bad that it felt like shit to play. Then I had some other no name crash that I got for 30 bucks. It was sheet metal instead of cast, and i think they break more easily. That one cracked in two places...fucking piece of garbage.
Anyway, guys break decent cymbals for many reasons. If you have your cymbals set up quite high and not angled toward you, then you're hitting the edge of the cymbal dead on and then the cymbal absorbs all of the force of the stick which is very bad. Even if the cymbal is titlted toward you, it can get fucked up if you follow through really hard i.e. with the force of your entire arm without backing off. The most common reason I think is if guys tighten the cymbals to the stands too tight so that they can't move freely (same idea as the stick dead on- it takes the whole force and can't move around to dampen the impact...physics). Cymbal springs can help with that.
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2004-09-11, 18:56
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There is no such thing as "unbreakable" in the world
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2004-09-12, 02:43
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Diamond comes pretty close....
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2004-09-12, 15:26
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apparently, spider web silk is very strong too
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2004-09-13, 03:57
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it is but that is only when you take it in comparitive thickness:
it is many times stronger than steel of the same thickness, but they have not found a way to utilise this strength yet, it doesn't work by just putting lots of threads together otherwise the army would be using Spider web flak vests.
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2004-09-13, 14:02
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Off Topic: usually spider silk is in bullet/kevlar vests
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2004-09-13, 20:47
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Originally Posted by DnL
Off Topic: usually spider silk is in bullet/kevlar vests
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for real?
I bet spider man could make a bullet proof vest out of his spider webs. And whatever it is the pope-mobile is surrounded by, that shits probably strong too. Like diamond coated plexi glass with spider silk on it...
I'll stop now...
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2004-09-14, 06:58
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yep omdthrash i read somewhere that novadays they use spidersilk in kevlar/bullet vests, cause it is bullet proof and much safer than kevlar
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