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Old 2007-01-24, 11:11
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The jury is now in session biatches.


Tm, i fully agree on the fact there should be a cap on campaign spending. There is way to much over spending going on. How the fuck can one say 11.1 million dollars is not too much for a campaign? I mean if i saw a canidate with half decent views, and then heard he raised campaign money and gave it to a charity he would get my vote right off the bat. Better things can be done with this money they blow on self propaganda. I mean yes they need to get elected, but what ever happen to the "Best" person gets elected not the one with the most money.

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Old 2007-01-24, 11:16
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11.1 million is nothing. George Bush raised over 200 million dollars in his last campaign for president. I say 11.1 million dollars is not enough money to run a successful campaign for president.
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Old 2007-01-24, 11:29
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11.1 million is nothing. George Bush raised over 200 million dollars in his last campaign for president. I say 11.1 million dollars is not enough money to run a successful campaign for president.


heh bush was down in my city a few months back for a fund raising dinner in a rich ass neighborhood right next to our office building. they had all these cops posted everywhere. he raised a million bucks at that one dinner!

pr0az - i'm pretty sure that is him in his avatar. don't you recognize the marine haircut??
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Old 2007-01-24, 11:55
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11.1 million is nothing. George Bush raised over 200 million dollars in his last campaign for president. I say 11.1 million dollars is not enough money to run a successful campaign for president.


You are looking at it comparitively. If you were only ALLOWED to use 11 million dollars then it WOULD run a successful campaign, because there would be no other option.

And yes that is indeed me in my avatar. Not currently (was taken shortly before joining the marines), but i would probably look very similar if i could right now. But its ok, i welcome both "looks" for me haha. Either or doesn't matter to me, i miss my mohawk now and again, but then again i clearly remember how pissed off i used to get iwth having long hair when you weren't doing something with it which was 99% of hte time.

(in other news) I saw a kid with a mohawk(a decient one) and punk attire on. If i wasn't driving by i would have talked to him. If i see him again i'll ask him to come over and jam sometime haha. (that is if he plays music.)

But onto topic.
Politics blow. As those around me can see i get way too wrapped up in it when i start talking about it. Which is probably "more" negative than positive, purely looking at it from a personal stand point. I feel like once i get started its like an addiction to talk about, and to think about, and i feel i'm way too good to be addicted to something as such.

I think i make it fairly clear how my opinions are in regards to politics and things i think about in general. I'm one of those people that thinks that with some hard work and dedication you can achieve much. Sure there are other factors involved but regardless. I think its a sham to think that everybody else should be required to raise those who are too ignorant (by their own fault) to raise themselves up. Granted i wouldn't step in somebody's way if happens to be their desires or goals, but to require everybody else to step up and give some body who has like 8 kids money because they can't keep their stuff in their pants KNOWING they dont' have any money, is down right obscene.
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Old 2007-01-24, 12:30
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McCain is huge on campaign finance reforms.....he has been embarrassing the senate with reform bills for a while<he co-writes them with a dem who's name i forget>.


one of the worst element of our government, the real unjustice, is the lobbyists.

our government serves corporations, both parties are equally guilty. trade negotiations and globalization issues<stuff like NAFTA, G8 summits,the fortune 500> is outside public discourse<how trade negotiations should be agreed upon, whether or not to trade with certain countries,holding american based corporations to a standard when they outsource jobs and operate abroad> during election campaigns.

itll never happen, a huge aspect of why is people dont really care and the appropriate questions are not asked and raise by the media, not in a conspiratorial sense, but the press doesnt want to anger thier sponsors.

the press, in america is more about selling audiences to advertising than anything nowadays, so.....

people get the society, the government they deserve, in a sense.
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Old 2007-01-24, 12:43
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Old 2007-01-24, 13:24
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one thing i hate is the indifference to issues that WILL affect you,..........*cough* blizzard beast cough*


I didn't say I was indifferent. The "meh" was for the extreme boredom of talking about politics online.
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Old 2007-01-24, 13:39
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McCain is huge on campaign finance reforms.....he has been embarrassing the senate with reform bills for a while<he co-writes them with a dem who's name i forget>.


one of the worst element of our government, the real unjustice, is the lobbyists.

our government serves corporations, both parties are equally guilty. trade negotiations and globalization issues<stuff like NAFTA, G8 summits,the fortune 500> is outside public discourse<how trade negotiations should be agreed upon, whether or not to trade with certain countries,holding american based corporations to a standard when they outsource jobs and operate abroad> during election campaigns.

itll never happen, a huge aspect of why is people dont really care and the appropriate questions are not asked and raise by the media, not in a conspiratorial sense, but the press doesnt want to anger thier sponsors.

the press, in america is more about selling audiences to advertising than anything nowadays, so.....

people get the society, the government they deserve, in a sense.


Ahhhhh. Like i said i enjoy your posts hah.
Completely. I considered being a lobbyist. (years back, before i developed morality) hah

Its probably more accureately to say those who have successful lobbying effect and change policies that control buisness, economy, and the enviornment issues.

This is where once again the positives of having a free market economy has its draw backs. It contains many many positives, but there will always be money handed around by those who can give it. (money not being so much as bribes but money used in the form of lobbyists attempting to swing representatives towards their cause)
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Old 2007-01-24, 14:09
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IN recent news kerry decides not to run. I'm not surprised. I was actually extremely surprised he was planning on doing it in the first place. I doubt the democrats would have supported him when it comes down to picking one to compete.
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They totally blew it with Kerry in the last election. He was the worst candidate I've seen for either party other than maybe Dukakis.
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Old 2007-01-24, 15:30
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whats funny is how massachusetts senators are portrayed as some sort of socialist ideologues and the state in general a liberal haven, much like the east bay/san fransisco area and hollywood dominated LA.

1>boston and the state doesnt hold a candle to those places and being the 3rd richest city/economy on the east coast, many powerful investment banks, weapons and gun manufacturers<not to mention connectifuck below us is like the heavyweight champ of gun companies>,a high tech institute that caters to military defense contracts<they are literally working on making soldiers invisible, battle suits like in sci-fi films>......i could seriously go on....

2>the massachusetts bay state colony was the closest thing to a theocracy outside of the papacy, we still have puritanical laws on the book that make evangelical utopian colorado, quiet 3rd riech southern california<was always traditionally conservative and overwhelmingly white till recently> look like rank motherfucking ametuers<however the fuck you spell that shit>


3>has a vast amount of business conservatives who are more socially left. the folks who do stem cell<based in boston> research are probably overwhelmingly conservative when it comes to economics, the same with the vast amount of doctors and med students<harvard> who want to compete for wages in private medicine.

the kennedys<who are more like a mythological caractatures>john kerry and mike dukakis are and were like clinton, centrists, not populists. limousine liberals, not overall/pajama wearing maoists.

john kerry got made out to look like howard dean for chistsakes, its funny how political election propaganda, thru the media, frames the perception of places......that arent accurate whatsoever.

like cuba for instance, for a more extreme example. like iran and venezuela now.
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Old 2007-01-24, 17:59
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God damn mother (#&% son )#% freakin. BY GOD.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070124..._russia_weapons

This country just doesn't fucking get it. I swear Russia is one of the most ridiculous countries EVER. Is it in russian culture to just be completely shady and not give a fuck about .... anything but themselves and money?

Regardless of whether they are "democratic" or not i htink russia will always be an enemy to a civilized global world. They have NOTHING to give to the world but military weapons, nuclear warheads, and vodka all of which are extremely dangerous.

If you didn't read it, russia has sent yet another shipment of "hi tech" mobile missle defense systems to... who other than IRAN in order to protect their nuclear intrests.

I now have a chechnyan friend here. (just came here like 2 years ago) and we definately had a good talk about russia the other night.

Fuck russia. Period. (except i have solid respect for their navy)
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Old 2007-01-24, 18:45
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Man its not Russia just more of the people in power. Honestly those people in power over there in their so called "democratic" country are people who were involved in the communist government. ?Puton? their current president was apart of there secret service police crap during the communist days.Those people are broke over there due to the political corruption they have to endure. Why not sell old ass nuclear weapons you have sitting around in fields, before someone steals more of them. Russia has 2 nuclear war heads !MISSING! as we speak that they know about, god only knows how many they really have missing. Shit might as well sell them to someone we know who is a threat and we know they have them...dont get me wrong im not supporting it.

The whole world is showing their stupidity by letting this all go on.

Iran, i would just blow them off the fucking map for the trouble they cause.

A) All we ask is not to fuck with nuclear material right now, they do it
B)They make counterfeit US money and flood the shit into the market.

Anyway i wouldn't blow them off the map but the western countrys really need to pull there shit togeather and and get with these guys to discuss the issues at hand. They have so much fucking oil why in hell would they want nuclear energy. I mean nuclear energy in the way way way way long run will be much cheaper, but oil in those countries runs for about 5-20 cents a gallon. They want nuclear energy to make nuclear bombs end of story....
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Old 2007-01-24, 19:06
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How about claiming to want peaceful nuclear energy (this is a very legimate and good cause) yet they turn around say say isreal will SOON be whiped off the map? AND RUSSIA IS SUPPLING NUCLEAR MATERIALS AND DEFENSE?

I just don't fucking understand this entire situation.

once again peopel WAY too fucking tied to money and could only careless how the effects will only escalate to extreme bullshit.

If there is something i've learned its that i really don't like russia. I don't trust them now and i probably never will. I actually don't eve really feel comfortable around russians either. (i've seen a few walking around on campus) Mostly older people "professors" i assume.

I mean i'll be honest. I'm not going to lie about Americas military. Believe what you want or you hear on the news, we could absolutely abliterate Iran and Russia. (there would be no incentive to russia, other than to finally do the one two knock out) But i'll tell you what although they may have been a "formidable" enemy before, russia couldn't stand a fucking chance if we were to go "head to head" or ANYTHING they produce. They don't even have money, they just sell off all the build up shit they made to whoever and ANYBODY who will buy it. The chinese jacked all their shit and made their own stuff off of it. (Can we see a pattern between piracy in china and the rulers? No fucking wonder they pirate everything, they even pirate weapons and vehicles and call them their own)

Btw just like any other products anything china builds is ridiculous cheap... haha go fucking figure. That country is one big stereotype.
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Old 2007-01-24, 19:28
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Russia is stupid, but I do enjoy their stereotypes.


Especially teh sex slaves!!

Oh my god speaking of which that reminds me. One of my Geology tas is from china. So she has a heavy accent. She was telling use the prefixes of different time periods.

And one is Mezo.

Oh my god you can only imagine what went hrough my head when she said that. I was waiting for horny afterwards.
Mezo horny. hahahah She said it perfect.
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mezo haha

I remeber i was at national guard camp and we had this asia guy there and i had fire guard so i was forced to carry a red flash light around with me, i flashed it on the dude and said "say sucky sucky 5 dollas", he said it fucking perfect and with the red light on him, seem like he was sitting on a beed in the red light district of asia.

Anyway yea i mean we can kill all of them, but why waste a million dollar bomb on a 5 cent country is what the political figures in our good democracy would say. I mean we dont know alot about russia Tm, we just know there politics are fucked up..so i cant say i dont trust them, also ive seen very hot girls from russia MAKES ME LIKE THEM a little . Cant say the same for romania tho Damn do they have some ugly ass he/she looking thing over there ruff.

I mean its all good though, im just more tired of all the whining from the governments across the west about all this nuclear bullshit. They whine but then they want someone else to handle the problem. From what i understand France should have a bigger mouth than they do on "Paper" they have the 3rd biggest nuclear arsenal. I hate the french more than i do the russians .. Snobby basterds.

The only reason russia exist is because we let them. Blame your good military for that Tm. Instead of rebuilding germany we shoould have gave them weapons to run into Russia and destroy it .

As for china, china sucks. They fuck with the japs alot...Remeber awhile back when the Jap naval ship ran a chinese sub out of its waters?...Countries over there just cant seem to leave well enough alone. Their parts do suck as aswell. They dont have alot of machinary though from what i hear they do alot of stuff by HAND.
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Old 2007-01-24, 20:38
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I'm not sure what you mean by "we don't know much about the russians"

because if you've NEVER believed me about anything since you've read my posts read my lips. We know ALOT about the russians. I can tell you so much about their tactics, their abilities and so much more it would make your head spin.

Even today ALL of our material is written with a russian battle in mind. Sure there is plenty of OJT stuff with terrorism but when you go to your school from the first day on they tell you everything and anything about russians.

I've seen spy satelite information, photos, read things. Trust me if there is ANYBODY on this globe we know enough about its the russians. (for good reason, they try that shit on us.)
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BY GOD the sensational propaganda!

"At the rally, 12-year-old Moriah Arnold stood on her toes to reach the microphone and tell the crowd: "Now we know our leaders either lied to us or hid the truth. Because of our actions, the rest of the world sees us as a bully and a liar."

The sixth-grader from Harvard, Mass., organized a petition drive at her school against the war that has killed more than 3,000 U.S. service-members, including seven whose deaths were reported Saturday."

On both the people/person who wrote the article and the people using this girl.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES A 12 YEAR OLD KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING? Especially politics, international issues, and public/local/international relations. i find things like this pretty disqusting and sick. "Yes lets use a 12 year old girl as a spokesman for our cause, because shes so innocent and young."

Pah, bullshit i call it.
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