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Old 2006-06-13, 12:10
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Out of tune bass strings!

Hello dear metal heads

Haven't been on here in ages. Anyway I got a query.

My guitar always becomes flat or sharp after I start playing it in the bass strings (d,a,e) and my treble strings always stay in perfect tune.

Why is that? How can I make my bass strings always stay in tune without it going flat or sharp? Why do the treble strings always stay in tune? What do you people do to make your guitar stay in tune?

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Old 2006-06-13, 17:36
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How old are the strings?

your machine heads could be a bit worn out and loosening on their own.

a few other factors but those are the most likely causes that ive come across.

What kind of guitar is it anyways? If its some cheapo then theres really nothing i can say that will help you.
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Old 2006-06-13, 17:41
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Has it got a tremelo? Try replacing the strings, or if they are new, they do need to wear in a bit so they go out of tune for a while - shouldnt be too bad though. Check your machine heads
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Old 2006-06-13, 17:41
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Is it a Floyd guitar or a string through?

There are a few ways to help stabilise tuning on both systems.
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Old 2006-06-13, 17:44
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the bass strings (e a d) are wound strings, therefore they stretch more
the treble stings are plain, they stretch less
dont ask em y, they just do


old strings detune alot and fast, but new strings aswell.

after ive put new strings on my guitar i always stretch them a bit, doing some bends etc, on all the strings, i do that bout 3 or 4 times and then tune, and that seems to work pretty good to keep my strings in tune.
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Old 2006-06-14, 16:22
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My guitar is not a cheap ordinary one (why would you think I would have a cheap guitar, music is very important for me) It is a professional ESP explorer. The machine heads are not worn out because the guitar is pretty new and I take care of my guitar a lot. Anyway since you brought that up, if that is the case how the hell can you fix that? No my guitar does not have a tremolo and it is a fixed bridge string through, not floyd bridge. How can you stabilize string through systems? The strings I changed them around a week ago and they are still almost new because I don't sweat and I clean them always after use. Wow that is a surprise I never knew e,a,d are wound strings and the treble strings e,b,g are plain. That has to be a major factor than.

I stretched my guitar strings upward and tuned my guitar. I kept on doing this process until it stayed in tune after stretching my string. That seemed to keep my bass strings in tune, but than I got frustrated again. Every time the AC turns on my strings for some very weird reason become flat or sharp!! Why in the name of hell does that happen! So than I moved my playing position to a different place in the room were the AC does not hit me and my guitar, and guess what, my guitar never got out of tune after that! Basically what fixed my tuning problem was stretching the strings and moving away from the AC wind. Does anyone have an explanation for the AC thing, and does that happen to anyone here?

It is so angering realizing and admitting that all the songs I did before were always recorded sharp or flat the guitar parts because I never checked the tuning after I started playing. I got to solve this problem now or I'll never be able to sleep! I spent so much effort recording a new song and I have to do it over now because I don't want it to be flat or sharp.
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Old 2006-06-14, 16:29
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just sodomize the beast and be done with it!!!!

who cares why? the importanat thing is it worked.
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Old 2006-06-14, 16:51
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The AC will adjust the humidity (and obviously temperature) in the room, which will affect the metals and the woods that build up a guitar, moving it to a more stabalised environment will cure the issue as you have found
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Old 2006-06-14, 21:39
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Old 2006-06-14, 22:37
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The AC will adjust the humidity (and obviously temperature) in the room, which will affect the metals and the woods that build up a guitar, moving it to a more stabalised environment will cure the issue as you have found


Yeah, things tend to expand and contract when the temperature changes. Most old houses get creaky during the night for that reason.

After you change your strings, play for about a half an hour and just beat them up a little bit. Palm mutes, heavy bends, stuff like that.
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Old 2006-06-14, 23:35
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cold = flat
humid = sharp

bass guitar gets much worse on this
when I traveled to ohio from florida in january, my strings dropped 2 whole steps over night
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Old 2006-06-17, 12:46
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Bass guitar shit = BASS ZONE
guitar shit = GUITAR ZONE
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Old 2006-06-17, 13:50
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Bass guitar shit = BASS ZONE
guitar shit = GUITAR ZONE
DUDE!!

hes not talking about BASS strings for a bass guitar.

hes talking about the bass strings on a GUITAR so GUITAR ZONE
those tow 3 fat strings wich most guitars have lol

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Old 2006-06-17, 14:02
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Haha! Take that mod! Flamed by the regulars!!!!!!!

I was wondering why this got put in bass zone, figured it just wasn't read thoroughly...
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Old 2006-06-17, 21:46
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Bass guitar shit = BASS ZONE
guitar shit = GUITAR ZONE


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Old 2006-06-17, 22:45
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I stretched my guitar strings upward and tuned my guitar. I kept on doing this process until it stayed in tune after stretching my string. That seemed to keep my bass strings in tune, but than I got frustrated again. Every time the AC turns on my strings for some very weird reason become flat or sharp!! Why in the name of hell does that happen! So than I moved my playing position to a different place in the room were the AC does not hit me and my guitar, and guess what, my guitar never got out of tune after that! Basically what fixed my tuning problem was stretching the strings and moving away from the AC wind. Does anyone have an explanation for the AC thing, and does that happen to anyone here?

It is so angering realizing and admitting that all the songs I did before were always recorded sharp or flat the guitar parts because I never checked the tuning after I started playing. I got to solve this problem now or I'll never be able to sleep! I spent so much effort recording a new song and I have to do it over now because I don't want it to be flat or sharp.
Thank you!


Temperature and humidity will change greatly near an air conditioner. It is a good ideal to keep you guitar in a case when not in use to maintain a slow changing temperature and humidity around the guitar. Before you play it is good to retune it, play for an hour and retune as needed to adjust the guitar to the new temperature and humidity.

Basically you can count on extreme temperature and humidity changes to make keeping a guitar in tune a living hell. The key to consistent tuning is light air conditioning, keeping the strings new clean and stretched, keeping it in the case when not in use and not changing you tuning key. A guitar will settle in time to a specific tuning but it might take a few years. It is a new guitar so that could be part of the problem.
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Old 2006-06-17, 23:45
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So this is a bass guitar all of a sudden ???

haha PUT IT BACK IN GUITAR ZONE!
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Old 2006-06-18, 16:14
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hes too necro to admit he made a mistake, therefore hes keeping it here.
its obvious, you see it with most mods
the "power" gets to their head
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Old 2006-08-03, 23:08
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cold = flat
humid = sharp


umm...I always thought that cold causes shrinkage (ie: sharp) and heat/humidity causes expansion (ie: flat)...but what do I know...being a Canadian, EH?

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Old 2006-08-04, 00:41
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umm...I always thought that cold causes shrinkage (ie: sharp) and heat/humidity causes exapnsion (ie: flat)...but what do I know...being a Canadian, EH?

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