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Old 2004-10-04, 09:17
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....that one thing

I am curently in the study of the human mind and forms of psycoligy. Being a musician i was wondering what other musicians though of this. I am in a study of the fact that every one gets out of bed for one reason. No matter the person every one only has one reason for continuing life. The highest statistic so far is 62% of all asked say they get up and go to school/work only because they are suppose to or only cause everyone else does. Whats your one thing?
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Old 2004-10-04, 09:33
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I have a fair bit of psychology in my study too, I study laws and organisation managment (like, giving training to top managers and stuff, analysing their behavior etc.)

I think its pretty cool, I enjoy those classes way more then boring law classes... ofcourse the human mind is a wonderfull thing, all the theory's in psychology are cool as fuck.
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Old 2004-10-04, 09:45
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ya i love it, i am currently working on a system of directed conversations to scitzophrania by extinguishing the need for the separation in the mind of the subject..............aka, a cure. One positive reaction , and working on the second.
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hm.. but how does your system work?

as in, how do you get the subject to stop his need for letting out his seperate personalities?
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it's very complicated and still in the testing phase. i might get into it another time. scyitz is when some one sees things that are not there or talk to poeple that they see but do not really exist. Split personallity disorder is where they change gears so to speak into different persons , usually caused by a tramatic experiance to compensate for their lack of ability to cope with the event. My new study i am working with is most effective in these situations by talking to both sides and showing them that they have the power to deal with said trama. it takes many stages and is very tedias. The most interesting stage if envocking the new or created side to stay around for a while and life as we all see it thus by proving to the created that they don't really want to be around any way. It's very strange and very "out of the box".
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All this is way over my head, but it is real cool shit though.
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I think the best way to save a mental patient is that you have gone through some of the same symptoms. Some doc in a glass jar studying books isn't always that smart. One who has atually felt some of these urges and been able to fight it and stay sane would be a powerful message to the patient. I'm a music major so I do use a somewhat psychological mind. For example, I am classically conditioned to channel feelings into a song, giving it a sort of 6th sense. By playing music( )and being good at it, I could make you think things that you may have never felt before. Haha, most of the time, like in solo class, I usually just put people to sleep. I try to write things that give you the greatest variety of feeling into the same style of music. They say when you listen to orchestrial music while you take tests help you concentrate. Some of my teachers did it to me through high school but honestly I thought it was a mistake. All it ever did was take my mind off the test to listen to the great music, shit. I see the point behind music is because it can easily be a life story. The way you play a "slow, easy listening" classical piece can be the difference between an Elegy and a waltz; an elegy being a form of music performed at a funeral.
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i'm not a doctor, just a very smart documented case myself. Which is why i am doing this study. I am working in corperation with a few docs in my family but the inital studies and ideas are mine.
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it's very complicated and still in the testing phase. i might get into it another time. scyitz is when some one sees things that are not there or talk to poeple that they see but do not really exist. Split personallity disorder is where they change gears so to speak into different persons , usually caused by a tramatic experiance to compensate for their lack of ability to cope with the event. My new study i am working with is most effective in these situations by talking to both sides and showing them that they have the power to deal with said trama. it takes many stages and is very tedias. The most interesting stage if envocking the new or created side to stay around for a while and life as we all see it thus by proving to the created that they don't really want to be around any way. It's very strange and very "out of the box".

sounds interesting, are you actually getting permission to test this stuff? that would be mighty cool.. but also dangerous, you know what I'm saying.

focussing on the trauma that has caused 'the split' in the past can be difficult, I've read about similair studies that has devestating results on the subject. it might be hard to identify the case itself too, in most studies they used psycho-analysis whilst putting the subject under hypnosis, the problem was that some of the subjects actually brought 'back' parts of the conversation after hypnosis, but not in the form of the person who was in hypnosis but in that of their counterpart, making it even more difficult to understand their actual problem. rare cases ofcourse, but interesting to hear about.

Ofcourse if you can identify the 'issue' that started it all, it would be more easy to cope with people with schizoprenia.(btw, I think thats the way to type it correctly.. or well according to my book.) the biggest problem is getting the subject to be self contious and able to deal with his other identity (or multiple..)
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i'm not a doctor, just a very smart documented case myself. Which is why i am doing this study. I am working in corperation with a few docs in my family but the inital studies and ideas are mine.

in which year of the study are you now and what level is it on?

I study in Utrecht, at the HVU, 3th year.
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Ofcourse if you can identify the 'issue' that started it all, it would be more easy to cope with people with schizoprenia.(btw, I think thats the way to type it correctly.. or well according to my book.) the biggest problem is getting the subject to be self contious and able to deal with his other identity (or multiple..)


Once again i am not trying to win any spelling awards here sounds like you are intellegent enough to focus you energy on other things. And yes it is dangerous " for the subject" which is why i am the subject. In most cases the created is in more control then the creator so this does make scence when the created knows these things. There entire existance is mothing nmore then to handle the things the creator can not. durring hyp stage the subject swiches gears because the ordeal is too much hence the created takes in the information doing what it is designed to do and the creator is still left in there little perfect world.
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in which year of the study are you now and what level is it on?

I study in Utrecht, at the HVU, 3th year.

we are in the second year and it's getting pretty advanced and refined. I am very fortunate to be left in the loop in this. Most of the time they would just take you idea and push you out while they do an independant study.
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Hey Fakemind, you ever see Session 9? Might be right up your alley.
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we are in the second year and it's getting pretty advanced and refined. I am very fortunate to be left in the loop in this. Most of the time they would just take you idea and push you out while they do an independant study.

well. that sucks. over here they encourage ideas and student projects, hell some people even get funds from school to do them.

is it a four or five year study?
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Old 2004-10-04, 11:00
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Once again i am not trying to win any spelling awards here sounds like you are intellegent enough to focus you energy on other things.


haha, just wanted to know if I typed it right, my english is far from perfect you know...
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no , but you have my attention.
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I do? Oh, well, Session 9's just a good cinematic example of the split personalities forming after a trauma. Certainly better than Identity, if you can take the slow pace and ambiguity. Also, it teaches you how to perform a lobotomy with things you have around the house and a minimum of difficulty, in case you ever need to.
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I do? Oh, well, Session 9's just a good cinematic example of the split personalities forming after a trauma. Certainly better than Identity, if you can take the slow pace and ambiguity. Also, it teaches you how to perform a lobotomy with things you have around the house and a minimum of difficulty, in case you ever need to.

Nice, i'll have to look that up,besides you never know when you have to do a home lobotomy. I must say one of the most accuratly portraied film that caputed aall aspects( demecitia, paranioia, insomnia,God complex, ect.) Would have to be fight club.
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Nice, i'll have to look that up,besides you never know when you have to do a home lobotomy. I must say one of the most accuratly portraied film that caputed aall aspects( demecitia, paranioia, insomnia,God complex, ect.) Would have to be fight club.

I thought Identity was a great movie, especially the ending great line. Fight club portrayed it nicely but because it is a movie they must change things on purpose...
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