Wow tank you

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originally posted by YJM04


----------------8h12p8----------------------------6h10p6--------------*
--------------10-------10------------------------8-------8-------------*
------------9-------------9---------------------7---------7------------*
-------7h10----------------10p7-------------5h8-----------8p5---------*
-----7--------------------------7-----------5------------------5-------*
-5h8-----------------------------8p5~--3h6---------------------6p3~--*


---------------4h8p4---------------------------6h10p6--------------
-------------6-------6------------------------8--------8-------------
-----------5----------5----------------------7-----------7-----------
-------3h6-------------6p3---------------5h8--------------8p5-------
-----3---------------------3------------5---------------------5-------
-1h4-------------------------4p1~--3h6------------------------6p3~--
Double time

---------------8h12p8--------------------------------10h14p10-----------------
-------------10-------10---------------------------12---------12---------------
------------9------------9-----------------------11--------------11------------
-------7h10---------------10p7--------------9h12------------------12p9--------
-----7-------------------------7------------9---------------------------9------
-5h8----------------------------8p5~--7h10------------------------------10p7~

-------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
--------------8-11~-11-8---------------------------9-12~--
---------7-10------------10-7------------------8-11---------
-----6-9----------------------9-6----------7-10-------------
-5-8------------------------------8-5~-6-9------------------

T P P H T P P H T P P H T P P H
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--16-12-9--12----16-12-9--12----17-12-9--12----17-12-9--12--|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


T P P H T P P H T P P H T P P H
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--17-11-8--11----17-11-8--11----16-11-8--11----16-11-8--11--|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|



T P P H T P P H T P P H T P P H
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--16-10-7--10----16-10-7--10----17-10-7--10----16-10-7--10--|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|



|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--16-9--6--9-----16-9--6--9-----14-9--6--9-----14-9--6--9---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|

.
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--14-8--5--8-----14-8--5--8-----16-8--5--8-----14-8--5--8---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--14-7--4--7-----14-7--4--7-----12-7--4--7-----12-7--4--7---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--12-6--3--6-----12-6--3--6-----11-6--3--6-----11-6--3--6---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--11-5--2--5-----11-5--2--5-----12-5--2--5-----11-5--2--5---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--11-4--1--4-----11-4--1--4-----9--4--1--4-----9--4--1--4---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|

|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--8--4--1--4-----8--4--1--4-----9--4--1--4-----9--4--1--4---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--11-3--1--3-----11-3--1--3-----9--3--1--3-----9--3--1--3---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--8--3--1--3-----8--3--1--3-----9--3--1--3-----9--3--1--3---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|


|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--9--2--1--2-----9--2--1--2-----8--2--1--2-----8--2--1--2---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|------------------------------------------------------------|



T P P H T P P H T P P H T P P
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--6--2--1--2-----6--2--1--2-----8--2--1--2-----8--2--1------|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|--------------------------------------------------------7---|
H >---> Left
Hand

T P H T P H T P H T P H
|--------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|----------------------------13-5--8-----13-5--8---|
|----12-4--7-----12-4--7---------------------------|



T P H T P H T P H T P H
|--------------------------------------------------|
|--- ---|
|----------------------------15-7--10----15-7--10--|
|----14-6--9-----14-6--9---------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--------------------------------------------------|



|----------------------------18-10-13----18-10-13--|
|----17-9--12----17-9--12--------------------------|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|--------------------------------------------------|



|----18-10-13----18-10-13----18-10-13----18-10-13~-|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|--- ---|
|--------------------------------------------------


T=tap
H=hammer on
p=pull off
~=vibrato
and (the ending is all tapping) yes the ending tap solo is from flight of the wounded bumble bee.this is what really works ur chops out. try it

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^ ARE YOU INSANE???

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hehe it just takes practice and time man

Any tips on upstroke sweeping? Like any exercises to help me out?

Ive only recently heard of this form, and I havent seen anyone do it. According to my friend, hes seen the guy from Necrophagist do it. It has something to do with sweeping with 4 fingers from each hand on the fretboard, and each note is hammered on and pulled off. Does anyone know what Im talking about, and has anyone ever tried this?

Do you mean tapped arpeggios? I can tap out arpeggios but I tend to use just the one finger to tap them. Chris Arp of Psyopus does it with four fingers, I believe.

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4 fingers!?! I'd love to see that.

errmm, i dont know a good way to explain but ill try my fucking best

use a verry loose wrist (duh) but make sure u put pressure on the pick, so u rilli bash into the next string.

also try to get ur pick angeled, not like how u would angle it for fast trempicking, but try to bend it up or down

so the poin of ur pick points towarts the high or low e string

so if u sweep down the pick points towarts the low E
and if u sweep up it bends towarts the high E


maybe this helps a bit

down stroke
/ / / / / /
. . . . . .

up stroke
\ \ \ \ \ \
. . . . . .
every dot is a string from the front or back of the guitar
and the / \ is the way u bent the pick for up and down strokes
if this doesnt help ya, keep to the explanation above


hopefully this makes a little sence to ya

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He's an awesome guitarist, probably one of the most technically gifted I have ever heard.

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hey guys, i decide to make this simple arpeggio lesson for those who have troble playing sweeps, arpeggious, so, i make that scale for you guys that are beginners on sweeps and want to learn some more, try play it very slowly, then try play as fast as you can...just practice.

Attached Files

Arpeggio Lesson.txt (316 Bytes, 231 views)

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Very nice! This will be of use to me.


EDIT: I didnt look at it first, did you mean to include something else in there?

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I don't think so bro, it just for a simple study...an effective one i thought.

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Thank you Moforin!

Does anybody want to elaborate on the theory behind arpeggios? If not I'll move this to the Guitar Forum.

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An arpeggio consists of scale degrees 1/3/5. There of course are others, but this is the most generic one. Ha, you can move it now, cause that's pretty much all an arpeggio is... Then I'll stick it in the scales and sweeps page.

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i always thought an arpeggio was when you play the notes of a chord but seperatly in a row so instead of
e
c
a

it would be like
a, e, c, e ,a c ect

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Done.

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Cheers for that, should help me to sweep

can anyone play the double fours?
its chromatics but like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 instead of 1 2 3 4

edit:

heres a sample
http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...1512ANG8CTQTA0R

Couldn't you just drop down a string and back a fret and accomplish the same thing

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You could, but this method will improve your accuracy in shifting down frets at high speed. Move from the 6th string to the 1st and back again using this pattern and build up speed gradually. It sounds and looks very impressive when done in about 5 seconds. It's quite simple if you're fully warmed up and a good alternate picker.

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those beings frets?

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whats the easiest fingerings to use for this exercise? cause hitting 8 notes on one string is hard with 4 fingers doing it fast and chromaticly

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i dunno, i just found it on one of my total guitar cover cds, its pretty impressive

Ya didn't mention Melodic Minor scales.

That's where I learnt it from. I believe it was from a Mick Thompson lesson and that is the exercise he uses to warm up. For the record, he plays it lightning quick.

GD: yeah, those are frets.

h4x5k8: you finger the first four frets with each of your four fretting fingers and then (very) quickly shift up to the next four and fret them in the same way. Then when you shift up a string you (very) quickly shift back and repeat the cycle.

As I said earlier, it's an excellent exercise for improving your accuracy when moving up and down the fretboard quickly. Try to add some frets inbetween as well to further improve accuracy and dexterity.

Eg,

E|-1-2-3-4-6-7-8-9-|

E|-1-2-3-4-7-8-9-10-|

etc...

It will greatly improve your ability to do stuff like:

e|-0h4h7-0h7h10-0h4h7-0h12h15-0h4h7-0h15h19-0h4h7t12p7p4p0-|

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Getting back to sweeping, whenever I attempt upstroke sweeps I mess up, and the notes sustain. Should I lift my hands off the frets, or should I try something else?

For example doing
--12
----13
------14
....I move my picking hand in an "upstroke" direction to keep it all balanced. But it ends up sounding terrible! Any help would ber GREATLY appreciated.

try removing your fingers from the frets as you sweep over them. Should kill that sustain you're talking about

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keep in mind that at the 12 theres a natual harmonic, wich might ring if i dont mute after playing... just in case u didnt figure that out

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You want to kinda move your fingers as if you were drumming them on a table, so you actually only fret one note at a time

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yeah and try to mute them with your wrist after the note is played.

Thanks a million. I'm better at it on my first try!

I find that picking the string quite hard stops the notes from ring after playing. I know someone who uses his right hand to mute the strings after playing them but means he is struggling getting his speed up.

i only learnt how to sweep pick from this thread and a week later sweep picking has become one of my most important techniques.

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Here is a sweep picking exercise i got from Marty Friedman from Megadeth. Sounds good slow or fast plus good exercise for hammer ons, pull offs and slides in a sweep.



|----------------------12^15^12----------------12^15/20^15-----------15-17-|
|-------------------13----------13----------14--------------17----17-----------|
|----------------12----------------12----12--------------------17--------------|
|---------10^14-----------------------14---------------------------------------|
|-----10------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|8^12--------------------------------------------------------------------------|

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I've never had guitar instruction from ANYONE in my life, so this thread really helped me learn the awesome technique that is sweeping. Thank-you all!

This is one of my favourite sweeping licks that comes straight from Exercise 9 of Passage to the Reaper by Alexi Laiho.

|-------------------14h17/21-17----------------------17h21p17----------17-21-22-t24|
|----------------14-------------19----------------19----------19----19-------------|
|-------------14-------------------18----------18----------------18----------------|
|----------16-------------------------19----19-------------------------------------|
|-------16-------------------------------21----------------------------------------|
|-14-17----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I just found this, not sure if its already been posted here but its reallly fuckin helpful for learning scales.

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yeah this quite a stupid question - but when playing to a metronome, am i aiming to start the first sweep on the first click and the next sweep on the next click? If i try with a metronome it has to be going at a snails pace.

Also what type of speed should i be aiming for to make it sound so fluid?

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I decided to take up sweeping

Iv just been practising sweeping real slowly, trying to get each note individual. Just in basic stuff like -

|-10---------|---------10|-13----------|---------13-----
|----11------|------11---|----12-------|------12--------
|-------12---|---12------|-------11----|---11-----------
|----------13|-13--------|-----------10|-10-------------
|------------|------------|-------------|----------------

Its fuckin hard! but i can do it slowly at least. Im guessing its all just a HEAP of practise.

|----------------------5h7-|-12h9---------------------------
|-------------------5h7----|------12h9---------------------
|---------------6h9--------|-----------11h9----------------
|-----------5h7------------|----------------9h7-------------
|-------5h7----------------|--------------------9h7---------
|---5h7--------------------|------------------------7h5------

I dont find that sorta thing too hard, i can do it fast. Its just the top kinda sweeping thats taking time to get used to

|-12------------------------
|----11--------------------
|-------11---------------
|----------11--------------

These are the ones i hate, the 'rolling barre' kinda bits.

Does anyone have some real beginners patterns which would be good for me to practise??

Thanks!

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I don't think you should do it that way, but I guess it depends on the sweep your doing. A good way to do it would be to hit 4 notes of a sweep for every click, or a system similar to that. So If your playing at 100 bpm, your playing 4 notes per click, which is very slow for sweeping. Move the bpms up, and It will gets tough. Anything past 140 bpm at 4 notes per click is getting quite fluid sounding, IMO. That's just the way I do it, and it really helps co-ordinate your right picking hand with your left scaling hand (or vice versa).

cheers

trying to work out speed for 6 string sweeping as i seem to start speeding up after the 3rd sweep - should i just start at say 60bpm and do the whole sweep and just try and get it faster with all the notes (11 in all) in a beat?

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This is the kinda stuff I like to practise with a metronome.

It's real useful for nailing timing and working up your speed.

|---------15-19-17-14------------------10-14-15-14-12--------
|------*17-------*---15-------------*12-------*------15~----
|-----16---------------14~---------11-----------------*------
|---17------------------*--------12--------------------------
|*19--------------------------*14----------------------------
|------------------------------------------------------------

The stars in front of, and under some, are metronome clicks. So in this case, on every 3 notes you hit you should be on perfect time with the metronome. The vibrato at the end is to be held briefly, until the next click.

Starting slow, at 100bpm, its quite difficult to get the timing right, its just so slow! Moving up to 120bpm, then 140, then 160 it starts to sound good. The sweep was intended for a speed close to 160. If u can get up to 180 and 200 you've got some crazy sweeping ability I start missing notes at 180, and I'm not on time with the metronome. Hope that helps in any way.

cheers man

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Those are cool patterns.
My favourite one i can play so far is

D|-------------7---9h13p9-11--------------
A|-----------8---8------------10-----------
F|--------9-----------------------11-------
C|-----9------------------------------13---
G|-10--------------------------------------
D|-----------------------------------------

D|----------------9h13h9h12-----------
A|------------11-------------11--------
F|---------9---------------------9------
C|-----11-------------------------------
G|-13-----------------------------------
D|--------------------------------------
This is the intro from Necrophagist - Fermented Offal Discharge

It was good to practise slow to get a hang of sweeping.
The first half I can already almost play as fast as the song. 1 day after learning

Another real cool bit of that song to learn is -
|----------15h19-15~---15-14h15p14--------
|-------17---------------------------17~----
|----16-------------------------------------
|-17----------------------------------------
|-------------------------------------------
|-------------------------------------------
The sweep is nice and short, easy to learn and real cool once you get it to speed.

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that was first song i heard of them and thats when i shit my pants

Haha you HAVE to check this out then (if you havent).

http://www.smnnews.com/board/showth...6270#post986270
just scroll down and theres a video of a guy playing fermented offal discharge (its in like 5 parts or something).

Its awesome, i found that it helped me out learning to sweep being able to see what the finished product is like.
Look for a thread on jason becker in this forum somewhere, thats an insane video too.

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i call this one the slinky. its a great warm-up

-------12----------------------------12h17p12----------12h17/19-21~-------
----11---13-----------------------14-----------14---14-------
--10--------14-----------------13-----------------13-------
-9-------------15p12--------12---------------------------
----------------------13h14------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------

How are you fingering the beginning part. I came up with some good ideas, but nothing i liked too much.

-------12----------------------------12h17p12----------12h17/19-21~-------
----11---13-----------------------14-----------14---14-------
--10--------14-----------------13-----------------13-------
-9-------------15p12--------12---------------------------
----------------------13h14------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 1 2 3 2 1 4 1 4 1 2 1 2 1 4 4 1


1=index
2=middle
3=ring
4=pinky

this is more of an exercise

--------------------------------1h3h5------
-------------------------1h3h5-------
-------------------1h3h5-------------
-------------1h3h5-------------------
-------1h3h5-------------------------
-1h3h5-------------------------------
1 3 4 ect..

i like ones like that, they sound impressive.
I quite often do this one to warm up. (pretty much the same thing)

|-------------------------------1h2h3---------
|-------------------------1h2h3------3p2p1---------
|-------------------1h2h3------------------3p2p1----
|-------------1h2h3------------------------------3p2p1-
|-------1h2h3------------------------------------------ect..
|-1h2h3-------------------------------------------

Just pick each string once, so its a sweep. And you can play it up and down the fretboard, and change finger patterns as well.
Works out a pretty good sweeping and fingering excersise.

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i figured out woody wood pecker
X2
----------12h15p12----------- -12h13-15-13p12-------
-------13------------------- --------------------15-12b--
----14---------------------- -----------------------
-15------------------------- ------------------------
------------------------------- -----------------------
------------------------------- -----------------------

X2
----------12h15p12----------- -12h13-15-13p12-------
-------13------------------- -------------------15-8~-
----14---------------------- -----------------------
-15------------------------- ------------------------
------------------------------- -----------------------
------------------------------- -----------------------

-15-17p15h17-13-15p13h15-12-13p12h13-10---
-----------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------

----------12h15/19--20-------
-------13-----------20-------
----14--------------17-------
-15-----------------17-------
----------------------------
----------------------------

Kinda looks the same as this

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thanks i been look for that song forever

ive been getting into sweeps a little now and thats onlyone i like to play but teh site for the necrophagist video DIDNT FUCKING WORK i tried on 3 diff comps then i tried to find it from the site but couldnt find boards i was in a fetish site
man i just heard only ash remains form them and my taste for all other music just droped

so you no longer like The Backstreet Boys?

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I <3 sweeps. Quite possible the coolest thing ever done on a guitar, in my opinion. I wish i could do it....

i agree

all it takes is practise - start mindnumbingly slow and then increase speed - just like any other technique you try to learn

give it a week and you will see a huge improvement. A month ago I couldn't sweep - now i am playing at speed and its sounds awesome.

Get down to it!

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Does anyone know any good sweeping patterns for the
B
G
D
A
E
strings?
Most of the patterns i have seen all involve the high e, and im looking for some cool once to play while im e-stringless.

B|----------8p7h10p9p7---------------
G|--------9-------------8--------------
D|------9-----------------9-------------
A|-7h10--------------------9p7---------
E|------------------------------------
I came up with that while pissing around.

You guys got anythin interesting

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well i mess with the 3 string arpeggios yesterday this is what happend.
minor . major
-5-0-----0-5-------- ------------------
-----1--1----------- -5-0-----0-5--------
-------2------------ -----1--1------------
-------------------- -------2------------
-------------------- -------------------
-------------------- -------------------
bassically what im saying a minor patter on the e string will make a major on the b and minor on b will make a maj on e

here's a pretty cool sweep from the song "Demon heart" by Luca Turilli

---------5h7-11p7-------------16p12----------------------------
--------5---------9-----------------14-----------14p11---------
-------5-----------8---------6--------13-------11-----11-------
------6-------------9p6-----6----------------11---------11-----
-----6-----------------6h7-7---------------13-------------------
-4h7----------------------9--------------14---------------------

Here's a cool sweep that's excellent for practising quite a few of the standard shapes along with fretboard dexterity. Enjoy!

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Something i've found last week, move it where you want, it sound pretty cool when you play it fast.

|-----------15h17p15----------|
|--------15-----------15-------|
|-----16-----------------16----|
|--17-----------------------17-|
|-------------------------------|
|-------------------------------|

|-----------15h19p15----------|
|--------15-----------15-------|
|-----16-----------------16----|
|--17-----------------------17-|
|-------------------------------|
|-------------------------------|

does anyone know how to use pre-mutation or scale combining

The scale combination method is explained on the first page (I think, mabye second).

What the fuck is pre-mutation?

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I think he means permutation. From my understanding of it, it's just a variation of an overall theme. Refer to Paganini's 24th Caprice.

I play this one a lot.

yo peeps.

im kinda new to sweeps but in my usual style i seem to play pretty hard stuff first then go back to basics....hence why my knowlegde of triads is a bit poor, but i can sweep/tap/pick my arse off lol

anyway,

this was a pretty hard sweep excersice i found somewhere...(cant remember) its based off the megadeth solo from hanger 18, but its been extended. theres a bit of a solo before this, but here is the sweep part;

----17p13------------------17p13p18p13-17p13--------------
----------15------------15---------------------15-----------
-------------14-----14---------------------------14--------
-----------------15-----------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------

--18p13----------------------17p13-18p13-17p13---------
---------15---------------15---------------------15------
-------------15--------15-----------------------------15
-------------------15--------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------

-15p12--------------------15p12-17p12-15p12--------
-------13-------------13-----------------------13----
------------12-----12------------------------------12-
----------------14-------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------

it takes abit of practice, but its worth it when u blast it fast.

Yea thats a pretty good exercise..

Ok this has probably been asked a million times but I need help sweep picking. I can sweep down perfectly but sweeping back up is a problem.

I am looking to do Necrophagist/Dying Fetus sweeps. I know it takes time.

So do any of you guys have any exercises I can use for sweeping back up?

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From Spastic Ink - "MultiMasking" at around 2:53.

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My sweeping is crap with more than 3 or 4 strings, necrophagist - foul body autopsy has some little sweep ups eg.

(1/16 notes at ~120bpm)


|-13p10----10------------|------------------------|
|-------12----12-9-------|------------------------|
|------------------10----|-------------------------|
|---------------------12-|-9h12p9-------12-9----9-|
|------------------------|--------11---------11---|
|------------------------|-----------10-----------|


|-12p9----9-----------|-------------------------|
|------11---11-8------|-------------------------|
|----------------9----|-------------------------|
|------------------11-|-8h11p8-------11-8----8--|
|---------------------|--------10---------10----|
|---------------------|-----------10------------|


|-13p10----10------------|------------------------|
|-------12----12-9-------|------------------------|
|------------------10----|-------------------------|
|---------------------12-|-9h12p9-------12-9----9-|
|------------------------|--------11---------11---|
|------------------------|-----------10-----------|


|-12p=8-----8-------------|-----------------------------||
|-------10----10----------|-----------------------------||
|-----------------9-------|-----------------------------||
|-------------------10----|-----------------------------||
|----------------------12-|--8h12p=8--------------------||
|-------------------------|----------12-10--8--7--8-10--||

It's not really a "sweep exercise" but it might help...

I can nearly do a couple of 5 string sweeps, up and down, they're a little sloppy, but you get the idea.... i can't do 3 string up/down sweeps though, its just a big mess.

For the advice, i'd say simple keep with it, and make sure you angle your pick a little on the upstroke

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Looking a few threads up in the "official scales and sweeps thread" might be a start.
Theres soooo many sweep patterns in there.

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Thats the one.It would probally be easiest for you to sweep back up the same pattern that you sweep down.Practice some necrophagist.

the bit i found hardest was the fact u have to use finger 3 for the low 14 (string B), and finger 1 for the 15 (string G), and then finger 2 for the 14 on D string...well weird at first but its the only way to play those sort of shapes fast...

Hey, my sweeps are pretty clean, but my tone makes them kinda muddy. What kind of tone is best for really getting sweeps to shine through?

Thanks

Turn down the gain a bit, standard tuning is a lot more clear than downtuned, what are you current settings?

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Low-8 Mid-5 High-7 Gain-10 Reverb-2. Also running it through a Zakkwylde overdrive pedal. Thanks!

I would personally get rid of the reverb. If you're using the amp gain and the pedal it's going to sound a bit muiddy probaby.....back off on one of them. The high might be better on 10, the mid on 7.

You're using amp distortion and pedal distortion? That's why it sounds muddy

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The Zakk wylde overdrive is a very light and clean overdrive, I think it enhances the sound actually.

|-------------16p13p12--------------
|----------13-----------13-----------
|-------12------------------12-------
|----13------------------------13----
|-15------------------------------15-
|-------------------------------------

Just something I came up with at the moment.

|-------------16p13p12-----------------------------20p16p14---------------
|----------13-----------13-----------------------15-------------15-----------
|-------12------------------12---------------14--------------------14--------
|----13------------------------13--------15---------------------------15-----
|-15------------------------------15-17----------------------------------17--
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

|----------------17h19p17-19p17p15----------------
|------------17-------------------------17----------
|--------16--------------------------------16-------
|----17---------------------------------------17----
|-19---------------------------------------------19-
|----------------------------------------------------

Just elaborating a little with what I had posted earlier this week.

anyone got any chinese/japanese sounding scales (or ones that actually originated from japan or china)?

i was on a lesson site once and there was a lesson called "the chinese scale", and it was just the major pentatonic

so i don't mean that mode of the pentatonic, but if you do have a scale like I'm after that does happen to be a pentatonic that isn't major or minor pentatonic, can you share that too?

cheers

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the pentatonic scales can sound oriental if used correctly

also a good one is the hirojoshi. Becker used it a lot.
find here - http://www.looknohands.com/chordhou...r/index_rb.html

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asian music consists of flats and sharps only, no majors either..my theory teacher told me that, dont know if its true though

Fuckin Killer! That scale sounds wicked!

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I'm going to merge this to the official scales and sweeps page.

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some times, but when u change it to a differnt key for example C u all ready have a major.

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I think this is a Japanese scale of some sort (in E), but I'm not sure of the name:

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The Dimished scales is an 8 tone scale with 2 relative scales (modes) that go with it.

The 2 two modes for this scale are the Whole - Half and the Half - Whole.
Whole Half Diminished:
1,2,b3,4,b5,b6,6,7
In the key of E on 6th string the fret pattern would be:
0-2-3-5-6-8-9-11-12

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cool, you learn somthing new everyday.

Actually the Japanese scales are pentatonic scales meaning 5 tones.
The Kumoi scales is made up with the Root, 2nd, minor 3rd, 5th & 6th.

So on a single string it would look like this:
0-2-3-7-9

The HiroJoshi is almost the same as the Kumoi but with flattened 6th.
0-2-3-7-8

Notice the 3rd is a minor for both of these scales, so you can use this in replace of a minor scale or with a minor chord.

I hope this helps.

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http://www.looknohands.com/chordhou...r/index_rb.html
i found this site extremely helpful for finding scales. im pretty sure somone already mentiond it, but ill mention it again.

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That site is awesome, thanks for that

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that scale site is awesome for finding scales

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Dunno if it's already been posted, but i made up a kind cool diminished arpeggio lick:

--------9t15p12p9-----12t18p15p12----15t21p18p15----12t18p15p12
------11------------14--------------17--------------14-----------
----12------------15--------------18--------------15------------
t=tap
p=pull off

Haven´t you got some tremolo picking and string skipping/fast picking, ... exercises????

I think this could be very interesting.
Put the tempo and the %th.

This will help me for sure.

Thanks

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http://www.looknohands.com/chordhou...r/index_rb.html

Here you go duds! pretty cool site for all the known scales and with all kinds of tuinings (even costum tutning)

Enjoy

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