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		I had a custom Jackson before college and I like my Ran better    It is really a mix between a KV-1 and B.C. Rich V with a Kahler trem. A true metal dream guitar.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		The other way around on that, white w/ black bevels, that wouldn't look bad either. I don't like colors out of white or black on my guitars, I just don't go for the quilted or flamed or just other colors that really stand out. I swear almost everytime I see like a custom RR-1 on ebay, the guys that order the guitar always goes for some really gay ass finish like this. 
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		Why is it yours took so long again? 
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		i did some work on my ran, got my jb today, so i had to do some mad inner cosmetic work on it, i had to dremmill the inside of the electronics cavity to make the new 500k pit fit and drill the hole for the pot bigger. Also drill a new hole from the electronics cavity to the bridge cavity to make a ground wirehole to hook up to the trem. The JB sounds awesome though, i got a .001 MFD Cap inbetween the jack line and the hot out put line in the Potentiometer for the treble bleeding and it works great, i still maintain a good treble even with the volume barley turned up.       i recomend people try that treble bleeding out.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
						  
				
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		Its a BLS Bandana, and I still havnt decided if if i wanna scar my ran that much. Its tempting, but i dunno, if i make a new route i have to replicate the nice satin finish on it when i finish the inside of the routed hole, which will be hard. My guitar teacher doesnt think i should do it, his reason is if i keep changing the custom to what i like then it will loose its custom "essence" and eventually just become some scared up guitar that has been changed many times. But its very tempting still, just one little route in there and my guitar could be perfect, its annoying to play without a neck pup     .  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		 true that, but the switch and the pot would be micro routes compared to a pup. The pot and switch could be done easily with a drill. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		 Glad thats one thing I specified with D, I even sent him a pic of a DV8 with the strat jack in the upper horn, allthough he's allready done a few one of them being your's H8. 
 
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		 how so? thats how my jackson is, i see nothing wrong with it or any reason to have the input on the top wing, the strap knob is already there anyway 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 It makes you able to sue standard straight leads, and makes it comfortable to sit when laying. 
 
My KV has the lower input not that good imo, I think it may need rewiring as it cuts out. 
 
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		 when your sitting down.... if its on the upper wing it wont jab into the side of your leg, thats the only reason why i would want it on the upper wing, plus it just feels more right up there... i dunno 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		 Guys how long should I keep the guitar in the case again?  
 
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Also should I think about getting a TB-4/SH-2 combo? 
 
I allready have EMG's but im not sure, ill probably get dimarzio's in my RG i'm getting. 
 
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				Guys how long should I keep the guitar in the case again?  
 
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I'm not sure though I may be selling my M-202 with EMG's so I liek the soudn but i'm not sure. 
 
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		Id like to get this guitar, going on the other posts it should only cost around Ł900 which is only two times the price of my current one(RR3). 
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thats what im getting, EMG-81 and EMG-89 :P
 
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body_shape=Invader 
construction=neck thru 
body_material=alder 
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binding_top=no 
binding_back=no 
binding_color=N/A 
pickup_configuration=HUM 
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headstock_shape=Invader 
neck_material=maple 
reverse=no 
headstock_finish=match body finish 
neck_finish=match body finish 
fingerboard=ebony 
number_of_frets=24 
fret_size=extra jumbo 
custom_inlays=yes (specify below) 
fingerboard_end=square 
fingerboard_binding=yes 
headstock_binding=no 
binding_color=white 
nut=locking 
width=1 11/16'' 
hardware_color=black 
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tuning_machines=Schaller M6 
pickups=EMG 
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pickups_middle=N/A 
pickups_bridge=EMG 81 
control_knobs=volume + tone 
pickup_selector=N/A 
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		 "ghey"? Hahaha.  
 
I asked him to put on the Ran logo in old english font, so it should look pretty sweet. 
 
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		 I kinda liked the esp style logos, but I went with the jackson style since it's what fits my guitar bests. ah well, to each his own, IMO, its not a bad logo at all. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		Big D actually dislikes the ESP style logo he has done beacuse it's not 'Ran' 
I'm having the standard Ran logo on both my Ran's I admit it's not the best especially in white but my logos are going to be black on both guitars, should look a lot better.
   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		 i really dont think you should go to big D and tell him you want his logo done differently. it is a custom guitar but its still his company. i would be pissed if someone came to me and asked for me to change my logo so it looks like another company. if you want it to look soo much like that other company then go fucking buy that companies guitars 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				i really dont think you should go to big D and tell him you want his logo done differently. it is a custom guitar but its still his company. i would be pissed if someone came to me and asked for me to change my logo so it looks like another company. if you want it to look soo much like that other company then go fucking buy that companies guitars 
			
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yea, i get what your saying, its almost like being ungreatful for their services, but i guess you are spending shit loads of money and so you do need to get it to your taste, if you get what im saying. so really its quite debatable.
 
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		 I'm pretty sure most companies will do custom logos if you ask them nicely, ScottIan had poisen pen style if i remember right on his jj's. 
 
ESP have three or more differnet logo's, the block one and a more handwritten one, i'm pretty sure they will do it in a different style. 
 
However I wouldnt tell them you think their logo sucks, frankly i like the STD Ran logo it suits me fine on my Ran's. 
 
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		 It would look better if it was a longer word but be cause its only 3 letters it is kinda weird. Maybe if it said ''Ran Guitars'' it would look better. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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				i really dont think you should go to big D and tell him you want his logo done differently. it is a custom guitar but its still his company. i would be pissed if someone came to me and asked for me to change my logo so it looks like another company. if you want it to look soo much like that other company then go fucking buy that companies guitars 
			
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'hey dude, you've been working on my guitar for half a year now, please put some lame esp logo on it when you're finished'
 
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		 Wrong, Scott left Jackson last year or this year offically, washburn now make his sig, but im sure that most custom shop guitars can generally have options not normally available on standard models.  
 
It would ahrdly affect Jackson making the different logo because he is scott ian, im pretty sure some of the custom shop's iv'e seen pictures of have plenty of different things which by your analogy shouldnt be on them as most of them werent endorsers guitars. 
 
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		 If think it comes down to this. 
 
If you want a custom wether you are famous or not, The companys logo has got to be on the headstock. If you don't want it in their chosen style then that's ok. If you want something original like Dave Mustane having his ESP logo in a poison pen letter style on one of his ESP V's that's cool beacuse it's original. 
 
If you get a Ran and want it to say Ran in the ESP standard logo style, that's wrong. 
 
If Dave Mustane wants an ESP V but to have ESP written in say the Jackson style that is wrong. 
 
It's either the companys logo in their style or in a original way and not in another way which is blatantly another gutiar companys style. 
 
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		 I wouldn't even care what it says on the headstock, as long as it's a kick ass guitar. I wouldn't even care if the headstock says "SHIT GUITARS", or if the company was called "GAY GUITARS" and it said it in like tye-dye colors, but if that's the case, then it better fucking be a nice guitar. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		 Haha I would actually like to have that.  
 
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		what's up with the inlays at the 12th and 24th frets? looks nice though I'm not a big fan of that exact headstock    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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		 Wa-hey, more Rans!  
It's pretty plain, but cool.  
Yeah, I don't think that headstock goes well with the body shape. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	
	
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