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timedragon. Have you tried this Valar, it's a project band of the leader of Azaghal and Wyrd. It sounds almost indentical as Summoning do. Symphonic and Atmospheric black metal using also J.R.R. Tolkien's novels in their main theme (well it could be noticed direct from their name, Valar). They have released amazing Magic and Wyrmfire full-length, definitely worth to try.
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Identical as Summoning!!
It must be good then. It's just too bad that they used the same theme. They could have tried to diverge a little instead of being a full blooded clone.
As for Dimmu...it's a shame. They used to be gods.
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timedragon. Have you tried this Valar, it's a project band of the leader of Azaghal and Wyrd. It sounds almost indentical as Summoning do.
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The fuck is this? Styles of Black Metal? See, you are one of the idiots who puts EVERYTHING into the smallest sub-genre you can.
BLACK METAL IS JUST BLACK METAL. YOU CANNOT DIVIDE A SUB GENRE INTO A SUB GENRE.
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In my opinion black metal should not be commercial , not to be making it for money. Mostly black metal is done for it's ideology/theme, not for money. Money is just earthen shit, music is pure art. And good art is not often made by perforced methods. Dimmu Borgir has made most of their songs just for money or what would sell well.
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Don't try to argue with an "experienced black metaller."  
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The fuck is this? Styles of Black Metal? See, you are one of the idiots who puts EVERYTHING into the smallest sub-genre you can.
BLACK METAL IS JUST BLACK METAL. YOU CANNOT DIVIDE A SUB GENRE INTO A SUB GENRE.
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I know, but black metal should not be divided into anything else. Its fucking stupid and pointless.
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The fuck is this? Styles of Black Metal? See, you are one of the idiots who puts EVERYTHING into the smallest sub-genre you can.
BLACK METAL IS JUST BLACK METAL. YOU CANNOT DIVIDE A SUB GENRE INTO A SUB GENRE.
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Dissection is angry. Yeah, you are correct about that, black metal is black metal and it shouldn't be divided into sub-genres. I mentioned the style of playing stuff, not classifying. I sometimes use terms like 'symphonic' black or 'raw' black to make it clear what it sounds. Well I can say that both are black metal, but in a some sort of introductions / review of some bands music, it's good to use some term to express what kind of black metal it is. Not putting it into a sub-genre, just telling the style. EG. Dimmu Borgir's old black metal albums were much more symphonic than their latest stuff. |
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Dissection is angry. Yeah, you are correct about that, black metal is black metal and it shouldn't be divided into sub-genres. I mentioned the style of playing stuff, not classifying. I sometimes use terms like 'symphonic' black or 'raw' black to make it clear what it sounds. Well I can say that both are black metal, but in a some sort of introductions / review of some bands music, it's good to use some term to express what kind of black metal it is. Not putting it into a sub-genre, just telling the style. EG. Dimmu Borgir's old black metal albums were much more symphonic than their latest stuff.
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And John, don't post your opinion if you don't like it. Its fucking pointless, and annoying.
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well techincally their are different styles... i.e. nsbm... you could almost say folk..
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Let's just say I couldn't resist - Dissection walked straight into it!
Maybe I can redeem myself a little. I really like In The Nightside Eclipse by Emperor. Hell I even learnt how to play Cosmic Keys To My Creation And Times - great song. Other than that album...
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Mütiilation's original releases might be bit hard to find, except their latest, Majestas Leprosus. I also would like to hear those older stuff from Mütiilation (Vampires of Black Imperial Blood, Remains of a Ruined, Dead, Cursed Soul and Black Millenium (Grimly Reborn)), besides mp3s. But paying those ridiculous prizes at eBay don't interest me.
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I got Vampires of Black Imperial Blood for cheep at a secong hand store (craziest fine ever) and Remains... fomr a friend who reformed and un-metaled himself. Its all good stuff really.
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Lucky.. How much did you paid for the Vampires..? I have seen prizes from 30 euros to even 200 euros for this release. I wish that Drakkar Productions would re-release this CD as soon as possible (as they did for Torgeist / Vlad Tepes split recently).
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There is few official re-releases of Vampires of Black Imperial Blood.
Original Drakkar Productions (France) release CD from 1995 (lim. 1000 copies)
EAL productions (France) official re-release Double-LP from 1999 (lim. 100 copies). In this version there has been removed one track ( Born Under the Master's Spell) and added three bonus tracks ( Forests of an Evil Dream, Travels to Sadness, Hate and Depression and The Rite of Darkness (Bathory cover))
Drakkar Vinland official re-release CD from 2001 (lim. 500 copies). This is bit shitty version, most of the pictures and many other things has been removed from the original version. |
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There is a French Black Metal band that kicks ass. Does anyone know who they are? I lost the post on Bolt.
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I think there's many good French Black Metal bands around. I don't know which you are meaning, but here is some:
Mütiilation
Vlad Tepes
Belketre
Torgeist
Deathspell Omega
Kristallnacht
Seigneur Voland
Blessed in Sin
Peste Noire
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I think there's many good French Black Metal bands around. I don't know which you are meaning, but here is some:
Mütiilation
Vlad Tepes
Belketre
Torgeist
Deathspell Omega
Kristallnacht
Seigneur Voland
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Kristallnacht, Blessed in sin and seigneur voland made a cool split in 2000 or 2001, can't remember exactly.
Kristallnacht quit around 2002, he's drummer in Desolation Triumphalis nowadays (if they still excist)
I've got this book about french black metal bands dedicated to Mad Max.
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Well, I can quote something:
"My wish is to concentrate on my new band in which I play drums. The provisory band's name is DESOLATION TRIUMPHALIS. A split with BEKHIRA is planned as well as another one with HORNA (fin). No date or label can be anounced right now for both release."
Then he starts talking about his ideas which did not change. He also doesn't want to be linked to the circus around the (NS) black metal scene which is becoming boring and pathetic with all those discussions about "true and satanic".
"The bands who use NS as provocation, to <<hide>> their shit music or to search for a certain credibility or fame because of the trend can fuck off and die"
This statement is from September 2002, so around that time Desolation triumphalis was created. What he's up to nowadays I don't know.
some info about the split with Horna: http://www.mz.art.pl/reviews/desola...halis_horna.htm
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"My wish is to concentrate on my new band in which I play drums. The provisory band's name is DESOLATION TRIUMPHALIS. A split with BEKHIRA is planned as well as another one with HORNA (fin). No date or label can be anounced right now for both release."
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I am just wondering who are the other members of Desolation Triumphalis?, if L.F is just a drummer? And why he would do the drums?, for example he used drum-machine in his Kristallnacht band, or if he didn't, there was a session drummer Lord Rimmon from Seigneur Voland and Infect. And in Seigneur Voland L.F made all guitars, so at least he would have done the guitars in Desolation Triumphalis. But if this is the truth then it is.
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I think it is also so, but the L.F's self statement of Kristallnacht http://www.killtosurvive.org/renouv...ewK/kristal.htm (Quote: "My wish to concentrate myself on my new band in which I play drums. The provisory band's name is DESOLATION TRIUMPHALIS") confused me. Maybe it is just a wrong expression on what he is actually doing in that band (he plays real drums in there, and does all other stuff too). |
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On the subject of Black Legions, in the one man band thread you said that mutiilation was a one man band but i have seen photos of mutiilation and there were 2 people not one... but to be honest i do not know thier history that well.
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On the subject of Black Legions, in the one man band thread you said that mutiilation was a one man band but i have seen photos of mutiilation and there were 2 people not one... but to be honest i do not know thier history that well.
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I always had the impression that one would guitars and do vocals and the other would play the drums... way off on that one.
On another note that bathory tribute i posted a while ago might not happen.
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I always had the impression that one would guitars and do vocals and the other would play the drums... way off on that one.
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In live performances Mütiilation has had Celestia members playing intruments.
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Well the guy planning the whole tribute was displeased with the recordings or something along the lines of that.
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What do you people think are the top 10 Black Metal releases?
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1. Darkthrone - Under A Funeral Moon
2. Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss (or S/T)
3. Gorgoroth - Antichrist
4. Graveland - Carpathian Wolves
5. Moonblood - Blut und Krieg
6. Mütiilation - Remains of a Ruined, Dead, Cursed Soul
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Celestia... are they from france or in that area? Im not quite familar with them.
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Yes they are french band, Celestia is led by the boss of Drakkar productions, Noktu. They do very simple and raw black metal with very melancholic atmosphere. |
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What do you people think are the top 10 Black Metal releases?
I go for:
1. Darkthrone - Under A Funeral Moon
2. Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss (or S/T)
3. Gorgoroth - Antichrist
4. Graveland - Carpathian Wolves
5. Moonblood - Blut und Krieg
6. Mütiilation - Remains of a Ruined, Dead, Cursed Soul
7. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
8. Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon
9. Emperor - S/T (or Wrath of the Tyrant)
10. Paysage d'Hiver - S/T (or Winterkaelte)
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1.Darkthrone - A Blaze in Northern Sky
2.Grand Belia's Key - Judeobeast Assassination
3.Krohm - Crown of the Ancients
4.Von - Satanic Blood
5.Taake - Nattestid Ser Porten Vid
6.Mayhem - Deathcrush
7.Black funeral - Empire Of Blood
8.Deasthspell Omega/MoonBlood - Sob A Lua Do Bode / Demoniac Vengeance
9..Graveland- The Celtic winter
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I went to their website to check them out ... they split up or what?
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I don't know Celestia's status at the moment, Noktu has said that they will re-release their old stuff ("Dead Insecta Sequestration" demo has just recently got released on CD) and so on, but about making new stuff he hasn't said anything. Still their latest is "Apparitia - Sumptuous Spectre" CD. Celestia is worth for checking out. |
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Well i check them out. Is Alghazanth (sp?) good or no?
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How to make your music KVLT?
First make some very raw and grim Black Metal, then sign in for a Sombre prod., EAL prod. or Drakkar productions. Do your release only on a VINYL format, limited to not more than 500 copies. Distribute this release only for underground distributions or labels. Do some interviews where you make your ideologies clear and make a statement that your music is only for true black metallers (elitism), not for trendies/similiar. Now you are a KVLT band, and your all further releases will sold on a ridiculous prizes at ebay, and no one cares what quality music those includes.
I think that KVLT status should be earned in true Black Metal spirit, it shouldn't be a goal to reach for. Very good example for this is Nargaroth.
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I think that they are kind a mediocre Black Metal, not really special, but not bad. They do have some great songs.
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How to make your music KVLT?
First make some very raw and grim Black Metal, then sign in for a Sombre prod., EAL prod. or Drakkar productions. Do your release only on a VINYL format, limited to not more than 500 copies. Distribute this release only for underground distributions or labels. Do some interviews where you make your ideologies clear and make a statement that your music is only for true black metallers (elitism), not for trendies/similiar. Now you are a KVLT band, and your all further releases will sold on a ridiculous prizes at ebay, and no one cares what quality music those includes.
I think that KVLT status should be earned in true Black Metal spirit, it shouldn't be a goal to reach for. Very good example for this is Nargaroth.
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Haha I agree but I think the whole Kvlt thing should be removed. Labels abuse it too much.
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The thing i hate though is that all this adversting brings in the morons and they get the pop star attitude that they got to move to norway and start hating christians right away.
well i must go... thanks for the chat... i hadn't a good talk about bm in awhile.
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The thing i hate though is that all this adversting brings in the morons and they get the pop star attitude that they got to move to norway and start hating christians right away.
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Yes that is because mainstream sees Norway the only country where Black Metal could be produce (because of this "inner circle" scene stories of Burzum and Mayhem). Though from Norway comes (came) many good Black Metal bands (Burzum, Mayhem, Ildjarn, Gorgoroth, Emperor, Darkthrone, Sort Vokter, Immortal, Hades etc.) |
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The Norway scene has died down quite a bit. Neverless did you get Craft's terror propaganda?
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Neverless did you get Craft's terror propaganda?
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It was way more better than Total Soul Rape, the musical structure was much more clear, they played better and the atmosphere was very dark and cold if comparing to their latter full-lengh.
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I "discovered" are Anaal Nathrakh and
Revenge,anyone else like them?
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Hmm, I haven't heard any songs from the besides when they were covering Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas song.
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It was way more better than Total Soul Rape, the musical structure was much more clear, they played better and the atmosphere was very dark and cold if comparing to their latter full-lengh.
Swedish scene is quite good nowadays, Craft, Onskapt, Shining and Dödfödd are very good ones. But I still count on Finland.
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Their BM??? Did i miss something? I always thought they were a power or thrash metal type of band.
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But im more concerned with the mentioning of Finntroll in this thread 
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The early 90's boom is as big as it will get. Now you just have patches of BM here and there.
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I think that BM is now more famous than ever before (and also other metal genres too).
There are nowadays hundreds (even thousands?) of active BM bands, which are formed just before or after millenium and there is many which sucks. Yet it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be good bands too, for example in Germany has risen many good bands, after many years of silence (Katharsis, Luror, Secrets of the Moon).
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Well, some of the Finntroll members are Black Metal maniacs, yet it doesn't make them Black Metal. Finntroll is a very good band, a band which have mixed black-ish melodic metal into ancient Finnish folk music and polka beats and it works somehow great. (Yes they are a finnish band, but they're using the other finnish nation language, swedish, in their lyrics besides finnish). |
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Id say 'Revenge' are a raw death metal band... similar to 'Conqueror' maybe. Still real good brutal shit tho...'Triump Genocide Antichrist' rocked! |
J.Read played in Conqueror so it's logical
they sound alike.I think they sound like
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Then why post in a topic about Black metal? I think you smoked one to many.
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I think that BM is now more famous than ever before (and also other metal genres too).
There are nowadays hundreds (even thousands?) of active BM bands, which are formed just before or after millenium and there is many which sucks. Yet it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be good bands too, for example in Germany has risen many good bands, after many years of silence (Katharsis, Luror, Secrets of the Moon).
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Well i don't know about there being thousands of BM bands but Im sure your going see the number of shit BM bands go down as soon as BM stops being a trendy type of music (satyricon doesn't help b/c they want to make bm popular here).
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Not really Satyricon, but bands like Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth has helped much to get Black Metal for nowadays mainstream ears. MTV has shown some videos from those bands and that affects a lot to youngs (Harsh and Dark music has become a trend).
Like we have seen that Metallica is now very popular at mainstream/MTV, and now people want dark(er) and 'raw'(er) music and they has got interested to Black/Death or other Dark Metal styles. This leads to multiculturalism of Black Metal and that is how Darkthrone and Burzum has risen from deep underground to even closer to mainstream (they were quite underground before years 97-99 (breakthrough of Dimmu Borgir's Enthrone Darkness Triumphant and Cradle of Filth's Dusk and Her Embrace (without caring " how" Black Metal those releases were), eventhought they have got high respects to their records and eventhough of this Varg killed Euronymous case (which was popular newstopic in norway for somewhile but it didn't really cause any interestes for the music). But now somehow the music has got popular. |
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Yes you can even tell that ppl on this forum only listen to the norwegian bands b/c of that whole murder and the black circle gang that euronymous started. At my school all you see are kids (that think they're metal) wearing Cof and Dimmu shirts than they go on blabbing about how they listen to BM but the have no idea who for example xasthur is or who malefic is and the next day the will be talking about some nu-metal band. Mtv makes all these impressions on these kids that they have to do whatever they saw on tv .. and quite frankly its pathetic and would hate to BM get caught up in that mix.
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Yes you can even tell that ppl on this forum only listen to the norwegian bands b/c of that whole murder and the black circle gang that euronymous started. At my school all you see are kids (that think they're metal) wearing Cof and Dimmu shirts than they go on blabbing about how they listen to BM but the have no idea who for example xasthur is or who malefic is and the next day the will be talking about some nu-metal band. Mtv makes all these impressions on these kids that they have to do whatever they saw on tv .. and quite frankly its pathetic and would hate to BM get caught up in that mix.
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I listen to ALL BM. It is my favorite genre and I listen to Xasthur as well as Leviathan, Grand Belial's Key and Nokturnal Mortum. Don't be so quick to judge.
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Sorry I meant to say most people on this forum. Besides you missed my point and as you said don't be so quick to judge.
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I have never heard of them. Google is a shitty search engine. They get paid to list certain websites first and sometimes they won't list sites at all. I prefer not to use it. Also, I couldn't help but notice the quote at the bottom of your posts. Descartes is a very good philosopher, do you study philosophy?
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do you think i would listen to music because of the drama that occured outside of the music? just because im a huge fan of BURZUM doesnt mean i just like it cause he stabbed the shit out of euronoymous
it just happens that darkthrone and burzum are from norway.
....and norwegian is the coolest language ever
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ohhhhh god dude
seriously
do you think i would listen to music because of the drama that occured outside of the music? just because im a huge fan of BURZUM doesnt mean i just like it cause he stabbed the shit out of euronoymous
it just happens that darkthrone and burzum are from norway.
....and norwegian is the coolest language ever
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Originally Posted by Transient
hahaha thats a pretty shitty track list
should just be "BEST OF BLACK METAL (BURZUM)"
and the first four burzum cds
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Example of what im talking about. I highly doubt you speak norwegian unless your from there.
Last edited by Deimos : 2004-08-20 at 01:12.
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2004-08-20, 12:09
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HES BAAACK
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jeg er amerikansk men jeg forstå litt norsk
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2004-08-20, 14:49
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Senior Metalhead
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heh im horrible at languages but here goes.
likeså. Folk tilgodehavende de vite norsk.
Last edited by Deimos : 2004-08-20 at 16:17.
Reason: spelling
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2004-08-20, 15:16
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i dont know of many bm bands but for the ones i heard are:
1) COF
2) Dimmu Borgir
3) i guess COB, but theyre more death metal
COF were good up till after midian days. theres alot of kick ass songs that they made in the old days.
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