hahahaha... you gotta love these newbies

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Amon Amarth BM? Thats like saying Burzum is good.








No offense sanders. The guy couldnt sing if his life depended on it.

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It's funny, people apologizing for having an opinion around here.

You reallly should not say that... Because you listen to Opeth!

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I don't like Opeth or Burzum lol.

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You either like Burzum vocals or not, I personally don't mind...

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I like Burzum, but i have to be in teh mod for it. Immortal is much better. I can listen to them anytime.

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i simply replied to a post, no i dont listen to much black metal, i like death metal, so eat my ass, i could still play you under the table

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You might check out the Belgian KLUDDE and AGUYNGUERRAN
here's an mp3 from the last mentioned:

http://users.pandora.be/nguaroth/ch...nnihilation.mp3

Enjoy

Nobody mentioned Trollech? Great band, but I suppose that's more paganmetal...

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GORGOROTH
NOKTURNAL MORTUM
BURZUM
DARK FUNERAL
IMMORTAL
OLD MANS CHILD and CO(DB,K,Carpe Tenebrum)
and many many others,except COF

Some goodies I listen:

I Shalt Become (monotonic, hypnotic)
Paysage d'Hiver (same as above)
Burzum (same as above)
Ildjarn (same as above)
Venom (One of the first bm bands, not very good IMO)
Bathory (80's epic bm)
Sodom (one of the german trash legends, but still black-trash metal)
Hellhammer/Celtic Frost (great black metal stuff)
KAT (starter of polish black/death/trash METAL scene)
Black Rose/Mercyful Fate/King Diamond (First real black metal band)
Sarcofagó (south american bm scene)
Darkthrone (BEST black metal band ever)
Mayhem (maybe most famous band in bm history, starter of second wave in bm)
Carpathian Forest (band hasn't made any bad albums yet)
Gorgoroth (bit epic and great stuff)
Faustcoven (today's norwegian bm scene is not shining, faustcoven is)
Conqueror (PURE SATANICK DESTRUCTION)
Emperor (epic)
Judas Iscariot (one of best US bm bands)
Hail (finnish cult)
Mütiilation (King of the french black legions)
Vlad Tepes (member of black legions)
Torgeist (same as above)
Belketre (same as above)
Vermyapre Kommando (same as above)
Deathspell Omega (french bm)
Pest (there is finnish, swedish and german bands named "pest")
Mortuary Drape (deathblack)
Nargaroth (german great stuff, burzum influences)
Lugubrum (darkthrone rip-off)
Troll (odd)
Immortal (Melodic)
Xasthur (Mütiilation in Abyssic Hate style riffing)
Moonblood (Great NSBM)
Satanic Warmaster (Pure Satanic Blasphemy)
Horna (true finnish satanic stuff)
Beherit (starter of finnish bm scene, very good stuff)
War (Total War-metal (satyricon and dark funeral members))
Von (joke band...still very good stuff)
Zyklon-B (DESTRUCTION)
Yamatu (Occult bm)
Abruptum (satanic hymns)
Aes Dana (ug bm from french, epic)
Nokturnal Mortum (epic NSBM)
Isengard (Darkthrone's Fenriz's project)
Satyricon (norwegian legend)
Rotting Christ (same as below)
Varathron (One of the starters of greek bm scene)
Antaeus (french stuff)
Enslaved (Viking BM)
Graveland (epic NSBM, great stuff)
Havohej (BEST AMERICAN BM, ex-Profanatica)
Kult Ov Azazel (Satanic stuff, blasphemy)
Throne Of Ahaz (Dissection style)
Deströyer 666 (Australian BM, (not anymore))
Seth (very satanic stuff)
Temple Of Baal (Insane black metal)
Gehenna (gothic elements in black metal)
Dissection (swedish great stuff)
Morbid (Mayhem's Dead's band)
Taake (norwegian vampiric stuff)
Ulver (Wolf bm)
Tulus (blasphemy)
Dödheimsgard (newer this isn't bm, older is great stuff)
Behemoth (older is bm, newer is death metal)
Arckanum (TROLLBM)
1349 (Cult)
Impaled Nazarene (Sick bm LEGEND from finland, very great stuff)
Hell Vomit (satanic blasphemy)
Nazgul (latin lyrics)
Manes
Ragnarok (very melodic stuff)
Furze
Kvist
Katharsis (Kathaarian bm)
Nhaavah
Gestapo666 (true NSBM)
Capricornus (NSBM)
Thor's Hammer (NSBM)
Kataxu (NSBM)
Thunderbolt (NSBM)
Winter Funeral (NSBM)
Accüsed
Nehëmah (french)
Okkultum Magnificentia (Italian totalian bm)
Behexen
Iuvenes (Great stuff)
Krieg (KVLT)
Watain (melodic blasphemy)
Vokodlok
Baptism (primitive legend)
Abazagorath
Archaicus
Countess (bit bathory style)
Megiddo (great melodies)
Krohm
Leviathan (there's US and Swedish version of this, US is much better)
Lust
Svartsyn
Wigrid (Best burzum rip-off I've ever seen)
Grand Belial's Key (US black metal legend)
Nattefrost
Sargeist (finnish bm)
Clandestine Blaze (Very good , primitive stuff from finland)
Mirzadeh
Angmar
Abigor (summoning members, from Austria)
Nydvind
Odal
Taakeheimen
Vintersemestre (finnish bm, bit 1993 year Carpathian Forest influences)
Urn (WAR)
Skoll
Sólstafir (Icelandian bm)
Pagan Rites
Necromantia
Nifelheim (death-black actually)
Nocte Obducta
Månegarm
Hate Forest (RAW black metal)
Grom
Funeral Mist
Curse
Barad-Dûr
Strid
Abyssic Hate (Burzum's Filosofem style and even better)
Fortapt
Huginn
In Battle
Isafjord
Odhinn
Morgul
Skyforger
Wolfswinter
Craft

Try these, all them are good, some less some more.

Why do people from europe call thrash, trash?

I don't. I thought people were just making typo's all the time!

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That, I would like to know as well.

Two Words: Mercyful Fate!

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In no particular order...

Anaal Nathrakh
Burzum
Xasthur
Anorexia Nervosa (I think they're BM?)
Dimmu Borgir

Nice list, Decrepify!

I´ll try some, allthough many aren´t black metal like Manegarm and Enslaved

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epic and destructive BM rules!!

Dark Funeral
Darkthrone
Bathory
Mayhem
Diabolicum
Necropahgia
Graveland
Impaled Nazarene

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i dont think you can call gehenna bm

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Children of Bodom
Dimmu Borgir
Cradle of Filth
Venom

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? Gehenna is pure black metal, there's no question about that. "First Spell" from Gehenna was including many gothic elements, but it doesn't make it gothic metal. There is lot of keyboards, slow-riffing, whispering vocals (a bit compared to Carpathian Forest's cover song of The Cure's "A Forest"), acoustic guitar etc.. Music is bit rock 'n' roll styling in riffing (but not as much what dimmu borgir or cradle of filth kind of shit bands do). Still Gehenna got all black metal elements in it's songs. But why all people say that Gehenna truly is gothic metal? Gehenna's ideology is definetly not gothic! Music just sounds bit gothic style.

Allthough I can´t pronounce it, this is awesome!!! It´s quite like the style my band plays...

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Well said.

Thanks, it needed saying.

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Could'nt agree more. And i like the vocals on Burzum. Why do some people dislike? They give intensity to the music.

I have written in this thread before, i went back and read my entry of bands and i realize i was drunk when i wrote it!!! here is my sober opinion

Ancient Rites
Hecate Enthroned
Emperor
Abigor
Mourn in silence
Dimmu(early days)
Enthroned

I dont think anyone has mentioned Hecate enthroned!! And Ancient Rites, they are BM to me, and very very good. Does no one listen to Hecate enthroned?

They definatly are! I love Hecaty Enthroned en Ancient Rites even more! Also very good and unknown black: Dawn and Obtained Enslavement

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Right on!! true black metal! Its great these guys are still going strong. I think Ancient rites is only getting better with each album. And Fatherland is a tough album to top!

Ahh, it doesnt get much better!!!!!!!

In my opinion ancient rites is getting WORSE with each newer album. The newest albums are very bad music. Only true releases (but neither they were not even close of true black metal) are ancient rites' most oldest releases, "The Diabolical Serenades" is good example. Bit primitive 'cause of the drum machine and riffing but still hearable.

Actually oldest enslaved is pure black metal. (VIkingligr Veldi or split with Emperor are good examples)

Manegarm has many black metal influences and some releases contains some black metal stuff. So I put it in black metal category. The Word "Viking Metal" may sound someones ears odd. OLDEST Moonsorrow (Metsä, Tämä Ikuinen Talvi demos) was black metal, but in EPIC feeling and paganism. Still some sort of satanism influences were in moonsorrow ideologies so it could have been called as Black Metal. Newer moonsorrow is just rawly sayed DEATH metal with EPIC melodies etc.. Maybe I could fuck the common, but all of my list band are either black metal influences, black metal or mix of black metal/death etc.. If I would like to list bands that are called Dark Metal. The list would be much longer.

Black Metal is one of the Oldest metal sub-genres (from the end of 70's to nowdays) so many band take influences from the legendary 80's bm bands and some even become black metal. Ofcourse many bands use their own style, like SUMMONING uses epic (tolkien) influences, GEHENNA gothic, ENSLAVED viking/epic (beginner of actual viking metal genre with influences of bathory), WYRD folk/forest poetry style etc..

So if you talk about the little death metal genre you talk about SUFFOCATION, MORBID ANGEL, MASSACRA, DEICIDE, THERION, SEPULTURA (oldest), OBITUARY, HYPOCRISY, INCANTATION etc.. stuff. But even these got black metal influences, but no called as black metal 'cause death metal is mostly in their music.

If some band sound mostly black metal, it IS.

Not even close of true black metal.... ? everybody likes to complain about how they "get worse". i say they changed some. just as other bands do. And it is "very bad music". do you play something better? I guess i just like the new stuff more cause (to me) its more epic. But its true that their older stuff was more black.

Very good explanation, I like you Decrepify....

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I'm meaning by true black metal - good black metal. E.G. Newest Emperor is bad black metal and same is newest dödheimsgard, or the kovenant. Music and in some cases even ideology is black metal. But it's like raping the black metal by making shit music.

I hear what your saying. And i do agree, the kovenant is now very bad! Its no longer black at all. But really, emperor? I think they are still doing pretty good, plus they have better recording now. "shit music" is a bit harsh on the guys. And i really like Ancient rites. Oh well, we all have different opinions, and that isnt a bad thing.

Right now:
-Mayhem (the old one, obviously)
-Satyricon
-Barathrum
-Thy serpent
-Enochian Crescent
-Faerghail
-Gaurithoth
-Emperor

Umm... Couldn't list just five...

I like quite a lot of BM, but there are not enough good bands out there I've heard... Id really like to discover some bands and thats why I like these threads, though otherwise theyre quite stupid...

EDIT: forgot Emperor

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Yep all have their own opinions. All what I have said is actually looking the thing by my view or my opinion.

ThroneofbahoS: Aiotko mennä carpathian forestin ja enochian crescentin keikalle toukokuussa? (4 kaupunkia).

Prometheus was way to technical for BM, timedragon

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Does anyone hear like Siebenburgen? For some reason, I really, really like this band. Very melodic.

New Kovenant is ok, but I'd say they were best on Animatronic. SETI just isn't as catchy. I heard that they are already working on a new album.

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I can't really stand Danni's high pitched vocals. My five fav. black metal bands...

1. Dimmu Borgir
2. Emporer
3. Enthroned
4. Vehemence
5. Summon

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Top 5? That's too difficult! I love Black Metal! Here's a bunch of my favourites, in no particular order.
1. Nokturnal Mortum
2. Beherit
3. Immortal
4. Burzum
5. Darkthrone
6. Mayhem
7. Graveland
8. Venom (some people consider them Black Metal, some don't)
9. Possessed (same deal as Venom)
10. Emperor
11. Dark Funeral
12. Nargaroth
13. Gorgoroth
I LOVE BLACK METAL!!!

Only five?

Well...........Ok

Dimmu Borgir
...And Oceans
Summoning (yeah yeah it's not really black metal)
Fintroll
Dark Funeral
Emperor
Tidfall
Catamenia
Satyricon
Dawn

.......I always sucked in math

That's what I said! It's impossible to name ONLY 5!!!

As far as Cradle is concerned...

The fact that they are extremely popular today doen't mean that they've sold out. Yeah, of course their music change a bit but that's call evolution. Sometime it's good, sometime it's bad. Selling out is taking all the necessary means to gain fans. You don't see them rapping and scratching on turntables. They just have fallen victim of their own success. People are bitching because Cradle give enormous exposure to metal or black metal...whatever you want to call it...and of course, we want to keep it OUR little secret. We don't want to see every random guy with a COF shirt. The same goes for Dimmu Borgir. The point is that we can't condemn them just because they are popular. BWT, as funny at it may sound, I'm not a hardcore COF fan.


P.S. Rap music fucking sucks

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i don't listen so much to black...but it's pretty cool

Dimmu Borgir
emperor
styricon
the embraced
einherjer

everyone is from my country....norway!!!

Most black metal is fucking great! but some of the best is:

Arnstadt
Zorn
Shining
Drudkh
Hate Forest
Leviathan
Lux Occulta
Fluisterwoud
Xasthur

if you don't know any of these, check them out!!

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COF have signed to Roadrunner for the new album Nymphetemine. I have been listening to them for about 10 years now and they have not disappointed me yet. Well letting Nick go sucked but he joined another fav band of mine. Plus they have Adrian which is a very good replacement.

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Well,to begin with..!I can asure you Children of Bodom dont play black metal...
My 5 favorites... hmm
Satyricon
Dark Funeral
Dissection
Immortal
Dimmu Borgir
now,about CoF!Dani Filth is just too stupid to listen to!i like only one song that i've heard(her ghost in the fog).if they're sold out i really dont care!

I think Summoning actually IS black metal and Dimmu Borgir ISN'T.

You have Lux Occulta and Xasthur there, and you think that these are one of the best bands in black metal. Have even heard from bands like Darkthrone, Katharsis, Graveland or Burzum? These all are in my opinion best bands in black metal ever, and if you would have heard of these you'd say the same thing. I've noticed that it's actually a constant if someone have heard of these bands, these bands would be in their "the very best of black metal" -lists.

But this is only MY assumption, maybe you don't like these bands as much as generally is assumed, but it usually is so. Or otherwise you just want to be very underground in black metal, and you don't respect bands which are famous among typical/normal/non-underground people. This happens only in elitism of black metal. Only few black metallers are truely elitists, and those others are usually just wanna-beeings. This "wanna-be elitism" is popular in nowadays black metal culture.

EDIT: Typos.

Marduk.

that's all.

bit hard to put top 5 but top 10:

1. dissection (if they can be classified as black)
2. atomizer
3. amon amarth
4. burzum
5. absu
6. mayhem
7. darkthrone
8. deströyer 666
9. marduk
10. dawn (same rule as dissection)

cradle of filth

Dissection is black/death metal and Amon Amarth is melodic death, it has nothing to do with black metal.

about the 2nd paragraph...
I understand exactly what you mean..!and I think that it has become very widespread in sweden nowadays!like a plague...
about the previous reply, dimmu borgir is black metal,but like a new type!some dont want to accept it as black metal,because they have become all too popular!but the truth is that it is BM...

I believe the greatest black metal band is Mayhem and not for their sound but for the fact that they have an extensive history of internal murders, sucides, and sacrifices. You know your elite black metal when your bassest kills your guitarist.

ps: Why have so few people listed EMPEROR

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Emperor is gay, and they are not very good.
Their first almus sucked, and their latest sounded like something Dimmu Borgir could have turned in to.

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Yes, but I see that black metal truely should be cold, hateful, raw, morbid and melancholic not any pop music as Dimmu Borgir is. I have always believed that black metal should be underground and not to be listenable for mainstream people. But still I do always accept bands in black metal and not thinking how popular they are. For example Burzum or Mayhem have got quite popular in "mass" culture and I don't really care about that because no man can't stop the invasion of trendies into black metal (it has be seen that trendies have polluted almoust every music genres around the world, now it's time for black/death metal).

Daggerfall, Emperor is one of the greatest band ever since the born of black metal. It's true that their latest (and one before that) are bad and these albums should have left undone, but their first was filled with passion and hate what black metal should always contain. It might be hard to get into their music if you aren't truely into black metal (ideologically).

Edit: Typos

Just bought Black Shining Leather by Carpathian Forest, fucking agressive

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Dark Funeral (Vobiscum Satanas! great album!)
ArthemesiA \m/fucking great\m/
Immortal (what happened, did they break up?)
Dimmu Borgir (getting a bit too famous...still good though)
Cradle of Filth (what is Gyan doing now?)
Goatwhore
Warhorn
Graveworm
Gorgoroth (any else hear about that show)
The Project Hate

Any "satanic black&white makeup" black metal is great! If anyone knows any more let me know.

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what to say..!I agree with almost every point that you make!

you should listen to witchmaster,
and yeah, immortal broke up

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ok lets get 1 thing straight Immortal was the best black metal band ever created they have led most of genre diffining it , YOU have all left out satyricon shameless !!! dimmu borgir are very talented but i think they can improve im really sick of the way they dont use there riffs to the full potentall but they are still very good
emporer are also very good followed buy cradle of filth, now you may think they have sold out but they havent they are the modern black metal they are the ones exploring the genre to its full extent and the way pual allender uses his axe is amazing followed buy cruntching riffs and light licks whislt i still think that they shouldent have dropped nick barker(drummer for dimmu borgir) they make do with what they have later p.s. IMMORTAL RULE BLASHKYRH MIGHTY RAVENDARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F*ck modern black metal

Black Metal Kvlt Reigns Supreme

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I've grown outta black metal due to maturity reasons, but I still like Immortal and Marduk

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1. Marduk
2. Dark Funeral
3. Dark Throne
4. Immortal
5. Burzum

Acoustic Mayhem

www.acousticmayhem.tk

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1. Dark-motherfucking-throne.
2. Marduk
3. tie between Mayhem (old)
and Burzum (before the synth stuff, although it is funny knowing that he claims "guitars are for niggers")

4. Immortal (genious)
5. Eibon (herd two demo songs on Moonfog and I can't wait for a real cd.)

Pure Demoniac Blessings or whatever by Darkthrone (off goatlord) is a pretty fucking badass song.

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Top 3 Black Metal? hmmmm

1. Ancient Rites
2. Dimmu Borgir
3. Cradle of Filth

I don't think any of them have sold out. They each have a distinct sound and that is what has made them so popular. Ancient Rites is a very underrated band and I wish they were more popular cuz they are god damn amazing.

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Immortal is good
Dimmu is ok

other than that..... BLACK METAL SUCKS

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Dude, I had just decided I liked you....

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Helvete Drittsekk

www.helvete-drittsekk.tk

only the first of those bands you can define as black metal. those two other bands are typical for someone who only listens to "black" metal cause its 'cool".
we can miss those people

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You need to shaddup

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An luckily you don't sound like a newbie poser right now

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cradle of filth
emperor
these are the only tttwo black metal bands that i like

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Two gaybands who never where called black metal.

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YOUR MOM!

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Maybe COF, but Emperor once made one of the best black metal ever released. Emperor MLP and Wrath of the Tyrant demo were very evil and grim stuff and almoust no other band have reached such of level in black metal. Maybe their newer ones sucks, but I respect the old. Hail Emperor!

CoF is Symphonic Black. I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. "Never BM." Dumbass.

Emperor is black metal as well. You know SHIT about black metal. Next you'll say that Darkthrone isn't black metal.

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I don't have an organized list or anything, but i like:

Darkthrone!!!
Burzum
(Some) mayhem
Dissection
Satyricon
Carpathian Forest
CoF before Damnation and a Day
Dimmu Borgir before Puritanical Eurphoric Misanthropia
etc. too many to name.

FUCK! HOW COULD I FORGET BORKNAGAR!?

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You dont like Puritanical? I do. Especially the song Kings of the carnival creation. Thats a really good song
I also really like Blessing upon the throne of tyranny.

Does anyone else here think that ancient rites sounds like folk metal now? I do. I like it more this way too. DIM CARCOSA!

It's Newer.

COF is not black metal. It's Extreme goth metal, definetly not black metal. It has never been black metal, and it will never be. If you would have heard Darkthrone, Katharsis, Watain or Craft style black metal you would agree. Listen some Dissection or that kind of stuff, it is melodic black metal.



Eh.. When did I said it isn't. Emperor was total black metal, but the newer one isn't very black metal (Prometheus). Maybe something like symphonic extreme metal or something like that. Yep Darkthrone's oldest material weren't black metal (Soulside Journey, demos and also Goat Horns (it was a compilation of old rehearsals, remastered or something like that)) it was death metal then, Darkthrone start to make black metal from A Blaze in the Northern Sky full-lenght.

one simple rule to decide if a band is evil enough to be considered black metal

if they suck then their black metal

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Indeed. I agree fully with that. lol

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cradle of filth may not be "grim" or "necro" or "evil" or whatever the fuck. but they have the style traits of symphonic black metal, the raspy vox, the heavy use of orchestral instruments, either actual or synthesized, the blast beats, the horror movie feel. so while they may not be "troo kvlt", they are still black metal.

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Thank you, PoonCravin'.

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anytime, dicksuction

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See, mine is an insult. Don't do that.

Anyone who listens to "Haunted Shores" by Cradle of Filth and tells me that they aren't Black Metal is fucking stupid.

To be honest with you, I think its stupid when people call nu-metal bands "not metal." Just because they suck doesn't mean they aren't metal. I mean, no one accuses Anal Cunt of not being metal

Edit: Oh, it is a genre discussion, thats why I bring it up. So shut your fucking mouth, its Black Metal.

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Another brilliant comment by our friend here.

In fact, I shouldn't be so hard on you. That's the smartest thing that you've posted for a while now considering that your last 50 post were : your gay! You're on the right track my friend. Maybe one day, when you grow up, you'll actually make an intelligent, constructive post about metal. But this ain't going to appen here.

Why do you post in a black metal tread if you think that black metal sucks?




Go read a book or something

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Exactly. If you don't like it, post once, and be gone.

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You must remember though, our friend decrepify believes that black metal must be pure satanic blasphemy from hell

Im immature? Yet who's the one here that listens to black metal??

Since im SUCH a nice guy im gonna do what dissection said.

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uh, me.
And, whos the ONE you ask?? "The one" doesnt quite apply here

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I do also enjoy listening loads of symphonic/industrialized/similar black metal bands (like Limbonic Art, OLD Covenant (in the times..), Dimmu Borgir's oldest stuff, Nokturnal Mortum, Thyrane, Summoning, Valar, Abigor, Diabolicum etc.) I like many style of black metal, but 'grim' or similiar black metal is definitely best in my opinion.

In my opinion black metal should not be commercial , not to be making it for money. Mostly black metal is done for it's ideology/theme, not for money. Money is just earthen shit, music is pure art. And good art is not often made by perforced methods. Dimmu Borgir has made most of their songs just for money or what would sell well.

Anyone here like Deathspell Omega, or have heard the first two albums? I have the newest one and like it a lot.

Anyway, my favorite black metal bands would have to be Immortal and then Marduk. Also Gorgoroth, Emperor, Satyricon, 1349, and Maldoror all kick ass along with many other bands with qualifiers like early CoF and Early Dimmu, or what I have heard of Naglfar, Lunar Aurora ("Of Stargates and Other Bloodstained celestial spheres" is excellent), and Deathspell Omega.


I am working on forming a BM band (that is not bowel movement band either, even if some might say that is what it would be equivalent to) and wonder what some of you think of the name "Necroviscera"? What would you expect from a band with a name like that?

Deathspell Omega is one of the best bands out nowadays. I think that their debut, Infernal Battles was their best release, but Inquisitors of Satan was also very close. Their newest full-length, Si Monumentum Requires Circumspice is also very good stuff. But there is some sort of change in their style, yet it has the good 'Deathspell Omega' sounding in it. I haven't listened much of this full-length, but by each time I listen it again, it sounds even more and more better than before. You should try their other two full-lengths (if you haven't), because they are very good. Those are avaible at CDs by Northern Heritage (Finland), the old VINYL versions of these full-length has been sold out for a years and those got incredible prizes at eBay, as same time these CDs cost about 15 $.

I knew there would be something we could agree on sooner or later
I just cant help but like some of the bands ive found to make good music, even if i were to later find that they were not 100% dedicated. As for new dimmu, i dont like their new stuff cause it just blows, add that to the fact that they are only in for the money now, and you got yourself a bunch of sellouts who no longer make good music.
And for symphonic black, YES... summoning
Also, Abigor kicks ass!

emperor
borknagar
darkthrone
emperor
emperor


ran out...

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