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Old 2006-07-25, 14:23
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Christ Illusion Leaked

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Old 2006-07-25, 14:32
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What a remarkably lame album title.
 
Old 2006-07-25, 14:43
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I thought this was spam when I read the title.
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Old 2006-07-25, 15:01
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Old 2006-07-25, 15:40
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Old 2006-07-25, 16:21
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You guys are on crack.

Slayer> Most bands.
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Old 2006-07-25, 16:22
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hope this isn't the shame bullshit their last album was...
 
Old 2006-07-25, 16:40
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Where has it leaked too? Is it being put out in stores now?
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Old 2006-07-25, 17:02
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You guys are on crack.

Slayer> Most bands.

Agreed. and I hate Sodom.
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Old 2006-07-25, 17:05
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Nevermind, I have found some of the leak. It's only a matter of time before I have it all but I'm still buying it once it comes out.
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Old 2006-07-25, 17:09
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Same here, I soulseeked it. And I have plans on buying it too because I just fucking love Slayer.

EDIT: Soulseek took too long so I downloaded it with bittorrent, and so far it's fucking awesome.
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Old 2006-07-25, 19:41
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GODDAMN, already?

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Old 2006-07-25, 21:52
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It blows.
 
Old 2006-07-25, 22:10
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I listened to it twice so far, the verdict hasn't come down just yet.
 
Old 2006-07-25, 22:36
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i've heard a few songs. i dont think its that bad.
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Old 2006-07-26, 00:29
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Maybe I'll download it sometime this week, I'm not realy thrilled so far..
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Old 2006-07-26, 01:43
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If I were Slayer I would be mega pissed at the record company for pushing it back 2 months. Of course it was going to leak within that time and it is going to do nothing but ruin sales. Music store said they had people in there all day asking about it but they can't release it until the record company gives the word to push the release date up. Even the record company doesn't care or they are blind. (See last sentence)
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Old 2006-07-26, 02:54
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It blows.



I strongly disagree. It's definitely a thrash album.
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Old 2006-07-26, 04:21
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I strongly disagree. It's definitely a thrash album.

which makes it not blow? your logic blows
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Old 2006-07-26, 04:30
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which makes it not blow? your logic blows


It's a thrash album...done by Slayer. Back into the basement you go!
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Old 2006-07-26, 04:43
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I've listened through it once. It will take some time to get used to.

It sounds nothing like season in the abyss though....more like GHUA with a little more attitude (ehhh....)

Whats with their fucking guitars though? You can hear em flopping around like 3/4 of the time...that shit pisses me off.

KERRY STOP BEING A PUSSY AND USE BIGGER STRING GUAGES!!!

Just to back that comment up: He uses .042 for Eb, .046 for Db, and a .056 for
Drop B..(coincidently, those are the tunings they used on the new album)

I'm pretty sure jeff uses the same guages as well...hence the SUPERFLOP sound.
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Old 2006-07-26, 05:05
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how come whenever someone mentiones a band in a thread a whole bunch of cocksuckers feel they need to mention a band they think is better?
 
Old 2006-07-26, 05:26
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Old 2006-07-26, 07:05
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Old 2006-07-26, 07:23
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It's a thrash album...done by Slayer. Back into the basement you go!


Meh, that still dosent mean its any good.
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Old 2006-07-26, 08:21
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BASBEHEMOTH I LOVE WHEN YOU SAY "BACK INTO THE CLOSET NOW!" and like "back into the basement with you!" it's sooo funny. [no sarcasm]
 
Old 2006-07-26, 10:12
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Mediocre at best.

Jihad and Black Serenade both have a couple of decent riffs, but apart from that, this album has some of the poorest riffs I have ever heard. There were literally only 2 riffs on the album that made me go "niiiiiiiiice..." and start grinning (which is what I do when I encounter a particularly good riff).

I listened to the whole album, but if it wasn't slayer I would have switched it off after 3 songs.

I do like the solos though, they're all good (if you like slayer solos).

I'd give it 5/10
 
Old 2006-07-26, 13:43
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yah, thats only so I can trashtalk you fucks that live by ''the green screen''

You think it makes a difference whether I stay or not?

I'm not dependent upon this site. I have my own site to keep me busy...oh yeah, and my site isn't full of a buncha faggots either (I don't mean you either, you are cool)
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Old 2006-07-26, 13:48
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I'm with Bassbehemoth here. Definitily a thrash album.

You keep bashing later Slayer releases because you suck, Slayer owns your goddamn life and Christ Illusion is fuckin badass. period.
 
Old 2006-07-26, 13:51
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I forgot to mention, the drumming is really dull too. It's lombardo isn't it? I was expecting much better from him.
 
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hahaha, DULL? it fuckin rule.

SUPREMIST, take that blast!
 
Old 2006-07-26, 13:56
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On second listen, its growing on me more. I listened to it quiet last night...but HE STILL NEEDS BIGGER FUCKING STRINGS!!!
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Old 2006-07-26, 14:30
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shut up whore. get Zakk, Karl or Pat for big strings.
 
Old 2006-07-26, 15:00
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Kerry played both rhythm tracks, so any flopping you hear there's all him.

Some of it's a welcome change (back to the familiar) and some of it's the same old bullshit that you'd think Kerry would get tired of forcing out. In any case I severely doubt that this will be one of the albums I think of when I talk about how great Slayer is; and while second-rate Slayer may be better than a lot of the shit out there, I don't feel much need to listen to it when I've got first-rate Slayer that can scratch the same itch.
 
Old 2006-07-26, 15:04
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I'm with Bassbehemoth here. Definitily a thrash album.

You keep bashing later Slayer releases because you suck, Slayer owns your goddamn life and Christ Illusion is fuckin badass. period.

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Old 2006-07-26, 15:07
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Thanks man, I love you.


I'd give the album at least a 7/10.
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Old 2006-07-26, 15:46
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I'd give it a 7 or 8. It got me headbangin so that's good enough for me.
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Old 2006-07-26, 17:36
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I'd give the album at least a 7/10.
Yeah, probably thats my rate either.
 
Old 2006-07-26, 18:00
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For waiting five years, I say this album is PURE SHIT!
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Old 2006-07-26, 18:14
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Kerry played both rhythm tracks, so any flopping you hear there's all him.

Some of it's a welcome change (back to the familiar) and some of it's the same old bullshit that you'd think Kerry would get tired of forcing out. In any case I severely doubt that this will be one of the albums I think of when I talk about how great Slayer is; and while second-rate Slayer may be better than a lot of the shit out there, I don't feel much need to listen to it when I've got first-rate Slayer that can scratch the same itch.


I had this whole long ramble written out, but PST basically summed it up. Stop bitching about how bad new Slayer is, and look back at all of their great work and focus on that. Shit, I think you'd rather people focus on your good work, rather than your darker moments.

I haven't heard it, and if anyone wants to send it to me, I'll be on AIM (I also need some of the classic albums, alot of my music got deleted ). I won't trash the album if its bad, but I will already say it does probably blow.
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Old 2006-07-26, 18:46
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not bad, not bad at all. i like the production, clean but somewhat raw at the same time.

i'll give it a 5/10.

still not a patch on Divine Intervention.
 
Old 2006-07-26, 20:02
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Old 2006-07-26, 20:27
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Old 2006-07-26, 23:50
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I downloaded/listened to it, and I really like it. The best album since divine in my opinion.
 
Old 2006-07-26, 23:55
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You think it makes a difference whether I stay or not?

I'm not dependent upon this site. I have my own site to keep me busy...oh yeah, and my site isn't full of a buncha faggots either (I don't mean you either, you are cool)

Thanks nig! Man, alot of people here been pissing me off too! Who do you hate?
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Old 2006-07-27, 00:42
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Old 2006-07-27, 01:04
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yah, thats only so I can trashtalk you fucks that live by ''the green screen''

You think it makes a difference whether I stay or not?

I'm not dependent upon this site. I have my own site to keep me busy...oh yeah, and my site isn't full of a buncha faggots either (I don't mean you either, you are cool)


Why so angry?
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Old 2006-07-27, 03:28
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Old 2006-07-27, 04:37
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Slayer> Most bands.


Crack is good compared to the new slayer. The new album sucks big ballsack.
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Old 2006-07-27, 18:48
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Crack is good compared to the new slayer. The new album sucks big ballsack.

Well now that's just pure blasphemy. You son need some good Slayerization.
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Old 2006-07-27, 18:56
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it reminds me of seasons i dont know why but who cares, also the song jihad I thought it was going to be some fast crazy soung but it's not i give it the album 5 out of 10
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Old 2006-07-28, 02:05
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I dont like how much most of the songs were dropped. It doenst exactly sound like slayer, nor do i enjoy the "floopyness" as was stated earlier in the thread. The drums tone sounds weak, i mean, dont get me wrong, the beat is great, i dont like whatever set they use though. Bass is still same old bollocks, but, it isnt TOO far off from slayer...
i havent heard all the songs, im not going to buy the album from what i heard so far.
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Old 2006-07-28, 06:52
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half of you guys are such moaners.....im just happy another new metal album is out...and its a slayer one.

just be happy that its still heavy and has solos.
 
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I dont like how much most of the songs were dropped. It doenst exactly sound like slayer, nor do i enjoy the "floopyness" as was stated earlier in the thread. The drums tone sounds weak, i mean, dont get me wrong, the beat is great, i dont like whatever set they use though. Bass is still same old bollocks, but, it isnt TOO far off from slayer...
i havent heard all the songs, im not going to buy the album from what i heard so far.

What the fuck? I can undersand saying you don't like it, whatever a few people have, but saying it doesn't sound like Slayer?
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Old 2006-07-28, 17:48
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half of you guys are such moaners.....im just happy another new metal album is out...and its a slayer one.

just be happy that its still heavy and has solos.


yeah, because there isn't dozens of albums being released each month that are both heavy and full of solos...
 
Old 2006-07-28, 18:06
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How come Flesh Storm doesn't sound like Slayer?
 
Old 2006-07-28, 19:48
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What the fuck? I can undersand saying you don't like it, whatever a few people have, but saying it doesn't sound like Slayer?


The tuning of the guitar on the album doesnt sound like slayer, otherwise it sounds like slayer, learn to read man
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Oh, haha I thought you were sayign that unrelated to the tuning.
I think it sounds fine myself.
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Definetly.

I'm having some trouble getting into this because I've been listening to 'Show No Mercy' and 'Hell Awaits' a lot lately.I'll give it a 5/10 for now.
 
Old 2006-07-29, 11:18
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I'm liking it so far, sounds more chaotic than more recent Slayer albums and I'm liking the production
As previously mentioned, a nice thrash album
 
Old 2006-07-29, 12:37
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i just dislike the guitar sound, at the break it sounds so.....st anger
 
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heard it once,I doubt I'll ever listen to it again.
I'll give it a "it ain't worth listening to"/10

EDIT:Except for the song Cult."I've made my choice,6 6 6"
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You know what really gets my attention? It's when a song is written and I could swear it was written specifically about me or I could have written it. Slayer has always had that effect with me but "Eyes of the Insane" has been like

It's damn creepy for my to listen to this song. The lyrics are shocking and encompass a lot of my thoughts.

"A Soldier's heart,
Reflexing back at me,
I keep seeing mutilated faces,
Even in my dreams,
Distorted images,
Flashing rapidly,
Psychically abusing me,
Devouring my brain.

The eyes of the insane,
Another manic campaign,

Tortured spirits,
Will not let me rest,
These thoughts of mutilated faces,
Completely possessed,
Fragmented images,
flashing rapidly,
Psychically abusing me,
Running through me head.

Shell shocked,
Battle machine,
Overwhelming anxiety,
Flash backs,
Panic attacks,
Death's raising his ugly face at ME!

Got to make it stop,
Can't take it any more,
They'll just keep haunting me,
They'll just keep coming back for more.

The eyes of the insane,
Another manic campaign,
Flash backs,
Panic attacks,
Death's raising his ugly face at ME!

Got to make it stop,
Can't take it any more,
They'll just keep haunting me,
They'll just keep coming back for more.

*bad ass lead guitar time*

Got to make it stop,
Can't take it any more,
They'll just keep haunting me,
They'll just keep coming back for more.

A Soldier
Of misfortune,
I owe my pain and suffuring,
To this hell,
These demons,
Ripping through my soul,
Evil's relentless hostage,
Will not let me sleep.

Shell shocked,
Battle machine,
Devasating insanity,
Flash backs,
Panic attacks,
Death's raising his ugly head before ME!"

Now I'm a seafarer warrior, but this song HITS hard with me. If you think being a Sailor is easier then being in the Army or Marines do a tour and then talk.

I don't know how Slayer gets this shit but I'm loving it.
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to good a production destroys thrash...I only listened to Cult off their website. The solos were much more tolerable then the solos on Reign in Blood. Sounds a lot like God Hates Us All. I'm not a huge slayer fan because of the solos and the lack of progression in the band. They've always been built upon speed and they've never really changed their focus. Speed is great, but dynamics and changing shit up while staying fast is a must. Slayer is always just blah. Simple fast riffing. Go listen to Violator or Bywar....that is some quality thrash that is NEW.
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I'll give it 5/10. Average.
 
Old 2006-07-30, 15:55
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lyrics ect..

Those are some pretty good lyrics, I could understand anyone wiht that kind of experience looking on those like you did. The start of the song fits it perfectly too.
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I think it is great, i got it yesterday, they are getting more in touch with their thrashyness again.
 
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5/10...




Just kidding, I'm not some whiney pussy nitpicking pure awesomeness and one of the most genre defining bands ever... God you guys fucking suck ass sometimes... Either love it or just dislike it, don't talk about the production ruining it for you or whatever....
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Either love it or just dislike it, don't talk about the production ruining it for you or whatever....


production is the second most important element in music (after the songs, obviously).

production can make or break an album.
 
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Production matters. If you've got the money and experience to make a good-sounding album and don't bother, it doesn't bode well for the music, either. And Slayer's past accomplishments have no bearing on what they do now, except to cast an unflattering light.
 
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I usually don't find production matters for me, although I don't really like very loud production, like Bloodthirst-CC. I like Hell Awaits, it's my favorite album and I like the weak-ish quiet production.
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I usually don't find production matters for me, although I don't really like very loud production, like Bloodthirst-CC. I like Hell Awaits, it's my favorite album and I like the weak-ish quiet production.


Well you say that now, but I can guarantee that an album can be completely ruined by horrible production. If you have ever been in the studio you know how much work goes into these things.
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production is the second most important element in music (after the songs, obviously).

production can make or break an album.

I agree, but the production sounded fine, you can't say it's TOO good or whatever...
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I've heard roughly half or more of the songs on the album and I think it...

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Also, this album has gotten marginally better each time I've listened to it. I'm still reserving judgement at this point.
 
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I agree, but the production sounded fine, you can't say it's TOO good or whatever...


There is such thing as over-production though. Not in this specific album's case, but look back on the 80s hair metal bands, fakest sound you could possibly imagine. Im liking this album more every time i listen to it, but i think the lack of a good first impression still makes me frown on it
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Slayer is never going to sound like Reign in Blood or any of their older CDs, so you guys can just give up on that hope. Either like what they're doing now, or don't, but quit fucking comparing everything to their earlier stuff.
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I think some of the grittiness is lost with a good production. Production is important, but some grittiness and awkwardness makes certain genres a lot better, one of them being thrash. Power metal on the other hand would be bad with poor production value because it focuses on accuracy, clean vocals, and lots of clarity with the instruments. I'm just saying that if I was slayer I'd go with a weaker producer so that the production might be a little more raw and in your face.
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If it's released under the name 'Slayer' it's already asking to be compared to everything else under that name. We shouldn't be expecting them to play like it's the 80's anymore - that's impossible, anyway - but we should definitely be comparing them to the quality standards they set.

Production can be gritty without losing clarity. Bob Rock doesn't know this, but some people do.
 
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I'm with PST. This is Slayer and so far the only thing we got to compare it to is past Slayer. It's a different time for them and us. That affects how they write and how we listen. They have been making music since 1980 ( I maybe wrong ). Who was alive then and are still bitching about what they write now? Not many that I know of. "Back in the day" no one liked their music either when it was first released. Reign in Blood was pissed on by many so called Metalheads back then. If it wasn't Motley Crew, Poison, Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, or Nirvana (during the earily 90's ), who the fuck cared? Most other bands were "like far more" real, better, and had more technical music, right? Kids at school thought I was out of my damn mind for listening to bands like Slayer, but I liked the way it sounded;( if they only knew about other death metal bands I was listening to ). Funny thing is Slayer is still here and the pop music of that time is long gone.

I know what I'm saying may sound strange, but back in the late 80's and 90's, Slayer were not worth spitting on music wise. I'm just glad they kept making some kind of music. The 90's were not a great time for Slayer. From what I can see today, not much with peoples opinions has changed, but its a different battle. Everyone hates change and those that bitch the most were not old enough to remember the old albums coming out. It seems yet again modern metalheads have to define what is in or lame, but where do these judges go later in life? Where are those old bitchfest poser metalheads from yesterday and what are they listening to now? I think it will take years for todays Slayer to become valued by metalheads just like the older Slayer music is today.
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Great post Soul.

I just got the CD yesterday and I'm fucking loving it. Real intense, fast, heavy, etc. They got some of their old sound back too, but still with a new twist. It's already one of my favorite CDs.
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Following on from Soulinsane....
I was there in the early 80's, Slayer were not the only band that were mocked by those that called themselves 'regular' metalheads. The whole thrash genre was laughed at by those self imposed bastions of true quality metal. Metallica were treated as inferior musicians(one review for the Jump in the Fire ep just said 'Jump in the bin!' The same mag *Kerrang* a few years later were kissing arse over Master of Puppets) Metallica never really crossed over to the cool side until guitar shop fodder like Enter Sandman soiled our ears.
Hell I think even S.O.D. did a piss take about Slayer called Douche Crew!
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the fact that old Slayer is more appreciated today is simply because more people have access to it. back in the '80s they didn't had the exposure they have today.

it has nothing to do with wether or not their music was better back then or how much they were ignored by the mainstream metal crowd. they were always valued, even 20 years ago. what happens now is that the small market who valued them expanded and grew bigger.

and that's the problem with today's Slayer (and music in general). there's nothing to expand. you can easily access any Slayer record you want. Christ Illusion is not a album that's hidden, buried deep underground. while it's popularity might grow a little with time, it will never suffer from the same BOOM old Slayer did when it was discovered by the metalheads of today and it will always be regarded as inferior.
 
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Slayers early material wasn't particularly buried in the 80's. The Hell Awaits video got regular play on the TV rock shows I watched(this was prior to Reign in Blood) In 1988 I watched a late night in concert on TV that featured Slayer playing a full live show. Tommy Vance played them all the time on his radio rock show. In rock clubs I went to Chemical Warfare(later to be replaced by Angel of Death) was played and they got plenty of press coverage in the rock mags. The controvesy over Reign in Blood, Def Jam, Joseph Mengele, kicking Destruction off a tour, Dave Lombardo leaving because they wouldn't let his wife live on the tour bus insured them acres of column inches alone, that is before you count the regular interviews and live reviews they did that I can remember reading.

Granted the internet has made it easier and cheaper.

Plus the longer a band is in existance it's fan base should in theory keep expanding in numbers. Older fans getting nostalgic for their youth and new fans discovering an old band(I shall not say which sub group I fall under!!)

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Its funny how Reing In Blood gets so praised up these days, considering I bought the album almost 17 years ago, I remember when liking slayer meant you were satanic, they were never the "in thing". What about South of Heaven, and Hell Awaits, kick ass slayer albums, but you never hear them mentioned. And slayer was huge when Seasons came out, everyone got a chance to hear it, their videos were playing all the time on MTV. Almost seems like its the "cool thing" now days to like reing in blood. My favorite is Divine, seems like it always will be, I dont like the new shit, doesnt seem to have the same intensity as before. Im thinking its probably cause of all the new kickass metal bands that popped up in the last few years. Its like slayer's just getting obsolete or im just getting bored of them. But at least their still thrash metal, ill give em that.
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Is that what that song's about? I saw a video of them playing some of Raining Blood live so they can't hate them too much....
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i can't believe i saw that.

here i was, thinking i was the only one who thought Divine was their best album.
 
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Is that what that song's about? I saw a video of them playing some of Raining Blood live so they can't hate them too much....


Nah they don't hate them. S.O.D. was just a huge piss take band who like to poke fun. Hence they did those 'Ballad of..' tunes plus they did Celtic Frosted Flakes which Tom G Warrior didn't find very funny and fell out with them and Seasoning the Obese which featured Slayer by numbers riffs and the cry 'DO YOU WANNA FRY!'
 
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Ok, I thought the new slayer was tight. Most of the other people in this forum are cynics about any band that is more than 10 years old, or does not use incomprehensible growls. I can appreciate pretty much any metal that doesnt suck.

and about the leak, slayer put the entire album of their myspace page.
 
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Ok, I thought the new slayer was tight. Most of the other people in this forum are cynics about any band that is more than 10 years old, or does not use incomprehensible growls. I can appreciate pretty much any metal that doesnt suck.

and about the leak, slayer put the entire album of their myspace page.

wow....mabye they are a little too full of themselves......nah, Slayer rules.
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