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Old 2006-06-22, 01:49
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Well hear for yourself. I'd reccommend Track 16 from Plague Soundscapes and also from the same album track 4 to hear them slow it down and control it a bit with great use of noise in synth variety! Seriously man you should check those 2 out.

Track 4 - "Live from the Russian Compound" [not live just the title of the song says it]
Track 16 - "The Half-Eaten Sausage Would Like To See You In His Office"

Don't get turned off by the track titles they are like political or some shit not just nonsense.
 
Old 2006-06-22, 01:52
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I'll check them out eventually. It's not possible right now as the cooling fan on my computer's broken. Anyway, I'll keep those songs in mind.
 
Old 2006-06-22, 01:56
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Please do! It's the only way to find out obviously. I want to hear your opinion on it.
 
Old 2006-06-22, 02:15
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Yeah probably. I listen to Nile first thing in the morning i would say that puts my spirits up.

coincidence? i switch between nile and old ass obituary
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Old 2006-06-22, 03:20
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not noise, not experimental or weird or any of that shit

dont get this trendy pseudoart garbage confused with shit that matters
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Old 2006-06-22, 03:50
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I just guitar pro'd one of the songs. I'm submitting it now.
 
Old 2006-06-22, 06:49
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And timedragon: that has nothing to do with education. It has everything to do with conceding things in an argument. Since you're the king of not conceding anything in an argument and pushing it long beyond its limits by taking and meaning everything personally, you're not exactly the person who should be criticizing Dissection for being a little bitch. Which is not to say that somebody shouldn't do it.

haha, i knew this would happen. by educated, i meant expeirence and knowlege. excuse any typos, im drunk. anyway, and i was talking about his knowlege of my taste in music. whether or not any of this makes sense is all irrelevant as far as im concerned. and my "pushing everything beyond its limits" is still a matter of opinoin.
 
Old 2006-06-22, 16:45
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coincidence? i switch between nile and old ass obituary

Nile gets you up in the morning alright.

But i prefer Rompeprop to fuck to.
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Old 2006-06-22, 18:15
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educated

uneducated.
Trash the locust? i didnt say anything offensive or uncalled for.


uneducated;
i wasn't talking to you.

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anyway, and i was talking about his knowlege of my taste in music.


the fact still stands that I wasn't talking to you at all when it came to "your musical opinion." It was about Robbie Filth, and if you want to talk "education," it was pretty "uneducated" to assume I was talking to you in the middle of an argument with Robbie Filth.
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Old 2006-06-22, 18:45
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Ok you just mentioned my name and i lost track of this whole thread so i'm gonna piss off.
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Old 2006-06-22, 19:25
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It's not a matter of opinion that you've manufactured long arguments out of innocuous comments by taking them personally. I was wondering why I couldn't seem to find a comment by Dissection directed at you in this thread when I skimmed through it, and now I know: once again, your egomania distorted your reading comprehension.

And I still fail to see how 'education' relates to knowing your specific taste in music. Has high school curriculum changed in the past three years? My brother mentioned nothing in his classes about the musical tastes of a whiney South Texas drunk who liked black metal. My university doesn't offer such classes, nor do any adult learning annexes I know of. Are we sure we know what 'education' is? Might we have meant 'informed'?

I won't, by the way, consider it pushing things beyond its limits if you take offense right now.

I can't seem to find the songs you recommended, Infinity.
 
Old 2006-06-22, 19:34
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Nile gets you up in the morning alright.

But i prefer Rompeprop to fuck to.

i just use the soundtrack of whatever porno im watching
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Old 2006-06-22, 19:38
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Ok you just mentioned my name and i lost track of this whole thread so i'm gonna piss off.


and on that note, i concede my argument,
but my point still stands.

i'm done, christ.
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Old 2006-06-22, 19:40
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I can't seem to find the songs you recommended, Infinity.


IM me and I'll send them.
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Old 2006-06-23, 02:23
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsIy...0dave%20fischer


my roomate did the animation


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4I1...earch=locust%20

half eaten sausage

give it some time, the songs there

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Old 2006-06-23, 02:48
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Just had a listen to a couple of tracks. Very shit.
 
Old 2006-06-23, 08:55
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The video for moth eaten deer head is pretty freaky. There are naked people doing strange dancing.
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Old 2006-06-23, 09:31
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsIy...0dave%20fischer


my roomate did the animation


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4I1...earch=locust%20

half eaten sausage

give it some time, the songs there


that kind of music has to be the MOST FUCKING ANNOYING SHIT IN THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD HOLY SHIT IT SUCKS FUCKING BALLS
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Old 2006-06-23, 09:41
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uneducated;
i wasn't talking to you.



the fact still stands that I wasn't talking to you at all when it came to "your musical opinion." It was about Robbie Filth, and if you want to talk "education," it was pretty "uneducated" to assume I was talking to you in the middle of an argument with Robbie Filth.

youre right. apologies.

PST: whatever dude. educated, informed, same shit if you knew how i meant it. the quote i used from you was what i was talking about being a matter of opinion, not whatever that other shit you typed was.
 
Old 2006-06-23, 12:58
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that kind of music has to be the MOST FUCKING ANNOYING SHIT IN THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD HOLY SHIT IT SUCKS FUCKING BALLS

okay, although this could possibly one of the most extremely immature, stupid things you could have said,,,
your right
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that kind of music has to be the MOST FUCKING ANNOYING SHIT IN THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD HOLY SHIT IT SUCKS FUCKING BALLS

You listen to Devil Driver.
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Old 2006-06-23, 17:25
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Still not a matter of opinion. All that other shit I wrote was an explanation of why not.

And the words mean different things. Don't inflate your own importance by using the wrong words. It's been blown up too much in your head as it is.

Interestingly spastic shit. Incredibly annoying vocals.
 
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youre right. apologies.

Its all good man.
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Old 2006-06-24, 01:57
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At this point i'd like to remind everyone December Wolves is still the best band ever.
 
Old 2006-06-24, 02:07
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i would like to see where it says i listen to devil driver you faggot
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Old 2006-06-24, 05:22
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the c;lucosty are nits man. vocals CAN bwe annoiuonhb if you trake it wrong bt i (OL) them.
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Old 2006-06-24, 05:59
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Havn`t heard this, but Im willing to bet its not half as shitty as some black metal band called apocalypse. That shit made me ashamed of listening to music.

Holy crap, someone else heard of Apocalypse? That dude from Greece, right? Hahahahahaha, that was unbe-fucking-lievable. Reminds me of it, I still have to throw that promo in the bin.
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hasnt this thread made its point yet
over 90% of people hate the locust
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Old 2006-06-24, 06:52
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Shut up. The point of this thread is the same as any other band thread: to discuss the band. Even if very few people like it.
 
Old 2006-06-24, 08:35
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hmmmm i'm glad I don't listen to this band...they aren't "loud" like i've heard a lot of people say...just shitty...I can't understanding how anyone could consider this "good" or "talented." Jesus this reminds me of the article I wrote about abstract art...there has to be rules about what can be considered art and what can not...and that...was definitely not art (music). I'm sure any beginning guitarist could make the shit they play and the horrid racket they create. Bands like this should never be promoted and should never even be a thought in peoples minds. The people should simply be punched in the face then get skullfucked by a ultra dyke manhating lesbian name Barbie. This isn't music...it is noise.
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the c;lucosty are nits man. vocals CAN bwe annoiuonhb if you trake it wrong bt i (OL) them.
my griend toild me to say sorr ju i ,m drunk

Hahaha, It took me like 5 minutes to read this.
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Holy crap, someone else heard of Apocalypse? That dude from Greece, right? Hahahahahaha, that was unbe-fucking-lievable. Reminds me of it, I still have to throw that promo in the bin.

Are you refering to me?No,I haven't heard them
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there has to be rules about what can be considered art and what can not

Wow!That's really openminded.Besides it's all subjective
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Old 2006-06-24, 12:17
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Interestingly spastic shit. Incredibly annoying vocals.

That's probaly the only thing i've ever agreed with you on.

But i've said it already this band are good to listen to if you just wanna have a laugh and DON'T take it seriously.
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Old 2006-06-24, 14:35
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alot of people miss the point about the music and say bla bla 12 yr old kid with first guitar could play that. but find me a kid that can and ill agree. then, find me any random guitarist and tell them to play it. my bet is they cant. then, go get a more hardened metalhead and tell him to play it. i b et he can't either. you see, these noises they are making is replicated live. to capture that chaos of random outbursts of guitars and shit and then memorise it and be able to play it again is hard! you can't say this stuff isn't above the moderate rate of technicality.

so then you say ok so you admire the musicianship but you dont like the music. well maybe it takes a certain taste to actually like the music and well im in that group.

and if you guys really wanna hear the shittest band on earth listen to cephalic mortification, i've claimed that they are the worst i have ever heard for 3 years running.
 
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hmmmm i'm glad I don't listen to this band...they aren't "loud" like i've heard a lot of people say...just shitty...I can't understanding how anyone could consider this "good" or "talented." Jesus this reminds me of the article I wrote about abstract art...there has to be rules about what can be considered art and what can not...and that...was definitely not art (music). I'm sure any beginning guitarist could make the shit they play and the horrid racket they create. Bands like this should never be promoted and should never even be a thought in peoples minds. The people should simply be punched in the face then get skullfucked by a ultra dyke manhating lesbian name Barbie. This isn't music...it is noise.



see them live, they are loud enough, plenty of bands sound great with a polished recording but can they pull it off live without triggered drums?, this band can, granted they travel with their own sound system and soundman, but every band should anyway. an mp3 or an album to listen to isnt gonna indicate how loud they are, c'mon now.
 
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Low-tech, you requested that somone say why he or she doesn't like it. I've read through this thread, and I can only say that I respect how much you manage to argument your point, serious or not. So I will try.
I personally don't like it, because it makes me think of what would happen if I were to pour oil in the gas tank and gas in the oil tank of my chainsaw and try to start it. It doesn't work, and it makes a large spectacle of it at that. Music has an extreme range of possibilities and emotions to offer, if you're willing to go there, and not least in metal we have many examples of how progressions that is otherwise considered dissonant and disharmnious can be forced into music. But that's just the thing - though experimentation is fun and can often lead to things you never expected out of a throat or a fretboard, in the end the different sounds need, at some basic level, to work together.
I can develop the subject more if you're interested, but this is the essence of it.
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see them live, they are loud enough, plenty of bands sound great with a polished recording but can they pull it off live without triggered drums?, this band can, granted they travel with their own sound system and soundman, but every band should anyway. an mp3 or an album to listen to isnt gonna indicate how loud they are, c'mon now.


I see...I was thinking about them on record...When I think loud for recording I usually think of like Nile or any band that at times is very difficult to hear all the instruments.
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This isn't music...it is noise.


Thats why they are classified as a "NOISE BAND" you stupid shit.

And very mature of you. What are you, 12? Must we insult people who like the music, instead of just saying "crap" or "bad," or even "this band blows"? But no, apparently the fans must be beaten because they have an opinion.

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alot of people miss the point about the music and say bla bla 12 yr old kid with first guitar could play that. but find me a kid that can and ill agree. then, find me any random guitarist and tell them to play it. my bet is they cant. then, go get a more hardened metalhead and tell him to play it. i b et he can't either. you see, these noises they are making is replicated live. to capture that chaos of random outbursts of guitars and shit and then memorise it and be able to play it again is hard! you can't say this stuff isn't above the moderate rate of technicality.

so then you say ok so you admire the musicianship but you dont like the music. well maybe it takes a certain taste to actually like the music and well im in that group.

and if you guys really wanna hear the shittest band on earth listen to cephalic mortification, i've claimed that they are the worst i have ever heard for 3 years running.


If I ever mentioned you lack intelligence, I take it back.
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I see...I was thinking about them on record...When I think loud for recording I usually think of like Nile or any band that at times is very difficult to hear all the instruments.


So it almost sounds like you support bands that are so cluttered that you can't hear everything that is being played (don't get me wrong, I love Nile). Contradiction?
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its fine if people here dont like them. as far as music or art having rules or "working together", c'mon now, rules defeat the point of it, absract art or avant-garde music<not really crazy on this term but i guess itll suffice>. this stuff gets away from all that. granted not everything that is considered avant-garde is dissonant and atonal in nature but there is long history of atonallity,noise experimentation with the rock,fusion and jazz worlds.

as i said before theres jazz stuff that was done 50 years ago that makes the locust seem tame. the locust walk the line between both worlds of what seems to be precisely done composed songs to utterly random sounding racket. you guys should hear orthrelm. if it was just jammed out nonsense i wouldnt be into it as much. the fact that they can reproduce these songs note for note live very well adds to my respect for them.

but people here have valid points in not liking the locust in what they intentionally set out to do. there are alot of bands now that are kinda ripping off what they do and im not into everything in this genre of music anyway, i view it in the same light of all these little obscure genres in metal,hardcore etc. of usually getting into a few bands that i think stand out,are good and ignoring the vast amount of clones.
 
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Sonically, free jazz is more extreme than this in its willingness to do strange things, but it's less deliberately transgressive. I'm not sure there's really a good comparison beyond that; the deliberately transgressive will naturally be more disconcerting.
 
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Thats why they are classified as a "NOISE BAND" you stupid shit.

And very mature of you. What are you, 12? Must we insult people who like the music, instead of just saying "crap" or "bad," or even "this band blows"? But no, apparently the fans must be beaten because they have an opinion.

If I ever mentioned you lack intelligence, I take it back.
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So it almost sounds like you support bands that are so cluttered that you can't hear everything that is being played (don't get me wrong, I love Nile). Contradiction?

Well I never bothered to look at what genre they were...but if noise is considered music now..then I'm gonna go down to a construction zone and sit there with a record because I'm sure I could get some fans and maybe release a few CDs.

Yeah I felt the need to add that idea of beating the fans. Are you saying that you've never hoped pain on someone who likes something you don't? Come on. Most people have I'm sure. Unless you are a fucking alter boy I'm sure you have. Simply by saying their fans should be beaten is a way of accenting my hatred for this type of "music." Which I believe to not be music at all. Don't get all butt hurt because I was making fun of the fans of this band. It was meant to show my hatred for this band, not the fans.

I don't like bands that are cluttered and you can't hear them. I was simply using Nile because I was recently listening to their new CD and I was disappointed in how cluttered the mix sounded at times. Their "In Their Darkest Shrine" CD is just as heavy but it is still clear. Does that clear stuff up? (kind of a pun?)
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Noise has been a genre of music for a while now (actually it's the insult levelled by each passing generation at the new one in music and has been for centuries, but only recently did the composers and musicians take on the name voluntarily; I suppose a few years down the line a new generation of sonic experimentation will have to be called 'post-noise'). It's characterized by critics' claims that a child or idiot trying to do nothing in particular could make the same sounds (which, again, is an extremely old and traditional reactionary argument), with the irony that, of course, no child or idiot or person going at random actually could. Just as - surprise! - no 8 year-old with fingerpaints actually produces abstract or minimalist paintings. So, good luck recording a construction site and passing it off as music; people've been trying it for years, and not succeeding, as an attempt to pass off what they don't like.

Which of course doesn't mean that they're wrong in disliking it. Just that they chose to express their dislike by being idiots rather than by not listening to it and getting on with the music they do like. Which brings me to my next point:

If people need to be beaten for the music they like at all, it's for how they appreciate it, not what they like. If you really think somebody deserves a beating for listening to something you don't like you're probably in need of one yourself.
 
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Well I never bothered to look at what genre they were...but if noise is considered music now..then I'm gonna go down to a construction zone and sit there with a record because I'm sure I could get some fans and maybe release a few CDs.




noise is actually something different. its usually involves handmade oscillators and modified electronic devices such as speak n spells,casio keyboards etc. this shit is huge where i live and there are shows of ,entirely, of this sort of music. i myself mostly admire the effort put into building such devices moreso than thier capabilities to produce music. given the lack of drummers to accompany most of these bands it doesnt really hold my interest. there is a huge potential for this music tho and maybe 10 years down the line it can actually make an impact if it evolves. one thing i think it has potential for is movie soundtracks, used with synth like when it was popular in the 80s. would be awesome for bizzare indy movies.

whats funny is doing something like recording a construction sight and applying that to music is more akin to the early industrial scene. that scene, i believe, started in england with throbbing gristle and was about creating music with literally noises made from industry:drilling,quarrying,hammering,sawing etc. and combining it with early synth eletronic music. for some reason this entire concept of music never really came into the theory behind it. it just evolved into goth techno where it stagnates in night-club costumed culture. that scene is more about showing off your vampire S and M clothing than about music. which is sad.
 
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Old 2006-06-25, 00:57
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The Locust is not the shittiest band ever, when you know of the abomination of Loudness, you'll know the Locust doesn't even come close.

There is no band shittier than Loudness, maybe Nelson.
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Noise has been a genre of music for a while now (actually it's the insult levelled by each passing generation at the new one in music and has been for centuries, but only recently did the composers and musicians take on the name voluntarily; I suppose a few years down the line a new generation of sonic experimentation will have to be called 'post-noise'). It's characterized by critics' claims that a child or idiot trying to do nothing in particular could make the same sounds (which, again, is an extremely old and traditional reactionary argument), with the irony that, of course, no child or idiot or person going at random actually could. Just as - surprise! - no 8 year-old with fingerpaints actually produces abstract or minimalist paintings. So, good luck recording a construction site and passing it off as music; people've been trying it for years, and not succeeding, as an attempt to pass off what they don't like.

Which of course doesn't mean that they're wrong in disliking it. Just that they chose to express their dislike by being idiots rather than by not listening to it and getting on with the music they do like. Which brings me to my next point:

If people need to be beaten for the music they like at all, it's for how they appreciate it, not what they like. If you really think somebody deserves a beating for listening to something you don't like you're probably in need of one yourself.


Noise music really "started" with Luigi Russolo making elevator music in the early 1900s.

Noise really broke with the "Liberation of Sound" movement and "Chance music" in the early 50s. Composers such as Edgard Varèse and John Cage (respectivly).

Krzysztof Penderecki (who works with acoustic noise) is my favorite composer of all time. Check him out. Iannis Xenakis is also worth checking out.

My point, Noise Music is the music of sound. The Locust is just a band messing around with a new form of spazztic grindcore. I'm not even bashing them with that statement. Just simply stating a fact.

P.S. PST, that wasn't directed at you I just used your quote.
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It shows how much the community at metaltabs like to flame music when a thread like this has more posts than any others on the page.
 
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People want to get across their opinion that's all and make points about certain things.

And you just contributed to the post count on this p]age i suppose.
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It shows how much the community at metaltabs like to flame music when a thread like this has more posts than any others on the page.

A lot of people have defended this band here, well a few at least.. The Locust? I don't know, stop being such pussys you guys it's just stupid music take it for what it is...
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Noise is good. This is not noise. This is boring.
Abstract art is good. Music is good. Fuck the Locust.
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You seem to come into every thread and act like your opinion is the "end-all-be-all THIS IS THE TRUTH" and shit.

The Locust = Noise.
Just shut up.
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Noise is good. This is not noise. This is boring.
Abstract art is good. Music is good. Fuck the Locust.

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Old 2006-06-27, 01:12
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i don't mind the music...sometimes like it because i go to the happy place in my head where i believe they aren't taking anything, least of all the music, seriously....so it is kind of fun to listen to if you think about it that way.
 
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You seem to come into every thread and act like your opinion is the "end-all-be-all THIS IS THE TRUTH" and shit.

The Locust = Noise.
Just shut up.
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Somebody doesnt know what noise is...
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Dissection i dont think this is noise either i would call it grind
 
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Yeah, it definitely has to do with grind, despite the vocals. Noise is something else.
 
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Despite the vocals? I think the vocals add to the defining of it being a grind band.
 
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Its definatly got grind influences but regardless it's not grind.

How do those vox add to defining it as grind, I wonder??
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grind?,noise?


this band does well in not being easily classified.


thier earlier splits and the first album is most definately grindcore in terms of drumming, no doubt. the recent stuff is where they are going for more technical range and use the blasts sparringly. this is what makes them most interesting in my eyes.

noise has become a whole seperate genre moving away from actually using musical instruments. most stuff involving common instruments that seem like random noise is more understood as avant-garde<i dont even know what this means in french, i avoid saying it in person,the term itself reeks "pretentious asshole", but since it an old term to describe a similiar form of jazz music, itll suffice> the locust do have a keyboardist who utilizes moogs and synth/oscillator sounds so there is definately a noise aspect to thier sound. look at my roomates animation video i cited, those parts inbetween songs are not sequenced sounds, its not a sample.

the vocals is where they kinda have been given the emo-hardcore accusation, i dont think a cookie monster vocalist would be any better. lets all face it once and for all; all vocal styles for the majority of music we like are totally rediculous, whether you prefer a high pitch scream of indecipherable lyrics or a grunt of even more nonsense-trying-to-pass-itself-as-vocalizations-of-words isnt really saying much.
 
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One thing i do like about the locust is some of those weird bass effects. They are shown most in the live at hellfest video playing teenage mustache.
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I wasn't even going to call them grind. Noise/Grind, thats what I'm settling with, and I don't particularly care what other bullshit subgenre everyone would rather throw them in.
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Noise/Grind, thats what I'm settling with.


Call it Grind/Noise and I'll accept it.

By the way, avant-garde = "ahead of it's time."
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'Noise' is, historically speaking, not this or even especially like this, so it's fair to put it second.

The 'avant-garde' is a group of people who explore new territory. It's French for 'vanguard,' and we even use 'vanguard' in the same way when describing a group of artists or an artistic movement who break new ground, ostensibly for others to follow. It has a lot of connotations of elitism for what reasons that should be obvious. It's also one of the more useless descriptive terms imaginable, as it applies equally well to something like this and various serial compositions, to Pollock and Stella, to Greenaway and Brakhage, to Beckett and Nabokov, etc. But it has its purpose.

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Call it Grind/Noise and I'll accept it.

By the way, avant-garde = "ahead of it's time."


thats what i meant originally but me being "me" i neglected to put it after "The Locust = noise" comment. I usually put them in "spaz" over grind, but i'm not in the mood for any more genre-conflict.
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'Noise' is, historically speaking, not this or even especially like this, so it's fair to put it second.

Exactly, that's the only way I'll accept it.

And you are 100% correct on the avant-garde thingy.
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I like them but their stage presence is horrible. Those costumes... It's enough to make a newborn baby slide right back into their mothers womb. They have sweet songs titles too like 'Wet Dream War Machine.' LOL
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