what are some progressive metal bands you guys like besides opeth of course? opeth are the best hands down. i also like when day descends if you havent heard em, a lot of similarities to opeth but all instrumental. what are some progressive acts that incorporate a lot of acoustic elements into their music?

Ignorance DRIPS from your post. Allow me to point it out.

"Opeth are the best hands down" - Thats just stupid. They are good, but until you find a fair, universal method of judging bands, don't tell me who is the best.

"acts that incorporate a lot of acoustic elements into their music" - Oh, is that the only way to be progressive? I've been lied to for a long time.

Raptures right, dont label bands "the best"...theres no fucking way you could have heard every band out there.

on another note...

Aryeon are pretty awesome

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Agalloch
Borknagar
Arcturus, tough that may be a bit too experimental for ya

If you like Opeth, also try the Dark Suns

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some of my favourites:

Dream Theater
Symphony X
Pain of Salvation
Shadow Gallery
Fates Warning
Avalon
Ark

and many more that i'll let others list.

Symphony X.

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Sikth
Nevermore
Biomechanical
Opeth
Dream Theatre

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Not necessarily acoustic stuff, but for progressive,

Apocrypha (US)
Andromeda
Blind Illusion
Coroner
Hourglass (only a few good parts in an album, probably not worth looking into)
Mekong Delta
Paradox
Prototype
Spiral Architect
Toxik
Watchtower


If you actually made this thread to try to find new bands, catch me on aim - xThrasher502x for some albums...

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both agalloch and borknagar are progressive steve, borknagar is 100% progressive except their first two cds. agalloch have long songs with plenty of techincal aspects. just because it doesnt sound like spiral architect doesnt mean it isnt progressive! hear hear to the arcturus, they are definitely good prog. vintersorgs later albums are also (the focusing blur beats you over the head with how prog it is). control denied is good, dan swanos moontower album is proggy, sculptured (offshoot of agalloch, but way proggier.) spastic ink are also in your face prog

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farmakon and ephel duath are two more

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Oh yeh Spastik Ink. If anyone knows any more stuff in that direction, that would be ace...



I'll beat Chris to it........................Rush!!

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well if we're gonna get outside of metal, camel and yes


not many bands like spastik (?) out there

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Odin's Court and Orphaned Land are some good ones.

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Pain of Salvation's and Nevermore's entire catalogues are progressive music essentials!

Runners up (that many people have already mentioned)

Agalloch
Ark
Symphony X
Dream Theater
Andromeda
Green Carnation
Into Eternity
Queensryche if you want old school
Derek Sherinian
Devin Townsend
Evergrey
The Flower Kings if you want good rock (they also feature Daniel Gildenlöw from Pain of Salvation as a member)
Kalmahswamp turned me on Wastefall even though I don't have their albums yet
The last Emperor CD
Borknagar
Therion
Dark Suns
Cynic
Winds
Age of Silence
Orphaned Land
Sigh

Do you need anymore?

thanks, appreciate your replies.

our pleasure

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Can someone explain progressive metal? I'm not really the genre genious.

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its what it sounds like. its not repetitive metal (exodus, sodom, darkthrone.) its music that is techinical, evolves, and changes. progressive metal also can refer to a bands whole career, like death and cryptopsy, who became more and more techincal

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Borknagar, they are progressive but a little bit, they are really good, the song who is really progressive of Borknagar is The weight of wind

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so Avenged Sevenfold is progressive then? They play alot of different riffs and their songs change alot? I hate all the genre's people try too hard to make genres for bands.

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ah i getcha. well i'd say martyr.. theyre technical.. but they're pretty much playing the same style of music.

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How many fucking "WHO IZ TEH BEST ______ BAND??!!!11" are there?

(By the way, my FAVORITE -not best- prog bands are Symphony X and Dream Theater.)

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how many intelligent recommendation and discussion threads arent read by noobs and then flamed?

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Heh, I used to talk to the Sun Caged drummer aeons ago.

Symphony X
Vanden Plas
Athiest
Later Death

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I also turned you on to Dark Suns and Orphaned Land (and transient onto Moontower and Sculptured I believe hah)

Anyway in addition to some that have been named:

Tritonus (Debut album drops soon)
Edge of Sanity
NIGHTINGALE!
Die Apokalypischen Reiter
Hollenthon (dibs to Transient )
OTYG (Feat. Vintersorg)
Fission (Feat. Vintersorg)
Augury
Kekal
Diabolical Masquerade
Skyfire
Riverside
Throne of Chaos
Frantic Bleep
Gordian Knot

hehe yes, props for sculptured! original shout out to SIRSHREDALOT for dan swano though. he was an ollllld friend of mine

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There are none god dammit. Nobody types like that any more, so please people, come up with something a little fresher to try to get some giggles out of.

Into Eternity. Right on Pandemonium for mentioning them.

Alarum

I've it before.... Gardenian!

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Gardenian sounds like boring melodic death to me...

Opeth
Katatonia
Sonta Arctica

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Katatonia is doom and Sonata is power metal!

I agree, but i also think that both of those bands have progressive elements.

In other words, i wouldnt class them in the genre of progressive, but i would use the word progressive to describe them. Oh man, i'm not making any sense. I need food.

just because it is not a hyper-technical heavy metalish band with wierd sounds doesn't make it non-progresive..

sure, Katatonia is doom.. prog-doom at that.
Borknagar? Black/viking prog.

I wouldn't label sonata as prog-power or whatever... just power.

But real progresive bands can't be put in a single genre!

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Well, straight up Prog bands usually sound really....cheesy *Cough* Dream Theater*Cough* and usually suck, but bands that add Progressive elements are good...sometimes? I guess I was stateing my opinon of what Prog should be as fact....

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If you are looking for the sophisticated progressive heavy metal I'd say Nightwish is a good band. Many of their songs are really quite simple when you take them apart - although of course some aren't easy any way you look at it - but they have a style and technical finesse to them that shows heavy metal in its finest. And Holopainens skills as a poet are impressive indeed.

Yeah, whenever I can't figure out a band's genre, I call it prog.

The person at the bottom who writes Nightwish is prog is not too bright.

I think Pande is the most progressively inclined

here is moonies list of killer prog bands

agalloch
borknagar
porcupine tree
death's later stuff
control denied
camel
yes
elenium
orphaned land
dream theater

all of these are moonie approved.

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I don't understand the genre stuff either but from what mentioned and what I like. Mine are

Dream Theatre
Nevermore
Opeth
Rush
Yes

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Tell me - wahat genre would you put Nightwish in then? And don't come here and say something like "symphony metal" or anything of the kind... anyone with the sort of ideas that comes out of Nightwish are worthy of being called progressive; never mind genre definitions.

(gothic) power metal..

neither their music would I call progressive, nor does it seem to "progress"

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indeed. later albums don't even have the "power" component, just plain gothic bullshit.

See above posts.

Hah, you're like a black metal version of DeathCS.

Good stuff

I'm just getting into prog myself ...
I find it is difficult to find any progressive CDs unfortunately. Having heard Symphony-x's "divine wings of tragedy" several times (and a few other of their songs) I think I've fallen in love with the genre. What really strikes me about this band is that often they're essentially writing classical (sounds like Bach or Mozart) music but with a typical power metal arrangement of instruments (guitar bass vocal drums and the variable: keyboard). In just about every song you can ignore all instruments except for one and just focus on that one and still be really interested. How they manage to write that many independant riffs that all sound good together is beyond me. I guess it helps that they have one guitar and one keyboard instead of 2 guitars, but the keyboard is kind of like adding 2 instruments since both hands often play something independant. The vocalist rules! And those are some of my favorite key solos.

I've also heard some glimpses into the work of other bands, but don't have any albums from:
Gordian Knot
Andromeda
Vintersorg
among some of the other stuff that was mentioned here. I also know some of the popular stuff more extensively like Dream Theater. I didn't know Borknagar was considered as Progressive. I have "the archaic course" and think it is awesome.

By the way, if one was to classify Tool, would they fit under progressive rock? It almost has a metal feel to it but it certainly would stand out if I was to call them a progressive metal band. What do you all think?

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yeah, marcel coenen owns

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I can't believe that none of you oiks have mentioned Genesis.

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Well, they aren't progressive metal...

But if people are going to throw around bands like Yes and Rush...

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Good point...they must be thick-headed.

Behold the Arctopus
Canvas Solaris

i'm not really sure what kind of genre are this bands, but are partly progressive with grind

Well, I'd consider Genesis Progressive Pop, whereas Yes and Rush are closer to Progressive Metal than pop.

The only bands that are labeled as progressive that I like are
Watchtower
Rush
Spiral Architect
Psychotic Waltz
and "Images And Words" by Dream Theater(I didn't like their other albums at all)

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I would consider older Ulver a kind of progressive black / folk metal.

Evergrey wins.

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Not quite.

Hell yes,Ulver rules,I think they have some prog in them.







I'm really digging Dream Theater again,never thought that would happen....

what is progressive metal anyway? im not to familliar with that term

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read a few pages back.

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It's metal that is progressive.

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good list man

Cynic

Hmm, well, I love Opeth, Rush, Coheed and Cambria (not exactly prog.) Dream Theater to bits, but I'm not too into prog. metal.

Opeth and Dream Theater

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i love opeth
dream theater is good and i have some evergrey never heard
but is nevermore really prog? i love them
i still dont understand what prog metal really is

I don't know if anyone heard The Power to Believe from King Crimson. This shit is freaking awesome but it's not really metal. At first I thought they were a hippie band and stuff like that but I was definitely surprised when I heard that album. I'm a big fan of Martyr, Meshuggah and Opeth and I was just stunned how amazing this cd sounded. You get weird time signatures and harmonies and lots of experimental stuff. I'm pretty sure some of you guys will appreciate it.

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I'm a Crimson fan. Power to Believe is good to reccommend to metalheads! The guitar work is fucktastic, I've watched some dvd of them playing it together. Really a one of a kind band.

Andromeda is cool.

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Symphony X
Liquid Tension Experiment
Spiral Architect is pretty crazy, but i don't really dig em.

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Best Metal bands (that i've heard, personally) (never heard of progressive metal, is it like punk metal with a fast ass tempo, or what?)

Ozzy
Powerman 5000 (i know, i know, they're retarded, but i like them)
Cradle of Filth (based on my hearing of one song)
Korn (hell yes, Twisted Transistor!!!)

I don't own very many, but that's what i like. Oh, and Tool.
Isn't this cool?---

Oh. My. God. You've got to be kidding.

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Holy fucking shit. Only America and only Christmas.

Initially, progressive metal bands fell into two camps, the first being bands who incorporated quirky time signatures and atypical riffing into metal, and the (related) second being metal bands strongly influenced by 70's progressive rock bands such as Yes, Genesis, and ELP. Watchtower and Thought Industry are two excellent examples of the first group, while Dream Theater remains the most well-known of the latter group, as well as the single band most fans point to first when referring to progressive metal. In later years, melodic progressive metal bands have blossomed, many of them not quite as technically oriented as the genre originally defined. Indeed, a lot of these bands can be best described as some mixture of Dream Theater, Queensryche, and Fates Warning, which indeed places these three bands as major innovators in the field. On the extreme end of progressive metal is technical metal, where the musicianship and songwriting variance is placed at an even higher premium. This is demonstrated by bands such as Cynic, and Spiral Architect.

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ok, i officially hate you

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Yea, thats basically it.

Yeah, you forgot to mention that the band members commonly adorn themselves with black lipstick/finger polish, black hair dye, and plenty of tr00 piercings.

HA!

Cynic is by far my favorite prog metal band.Opeth,Nevermore,Borknagar and Atheist(?) are great aswell.

Just picked up a Pagan's Mind disc...it's promising so far. Also considering getting some Zero Hour, does anyone like them?

I'm sure i posted here before so i will say Nothing.























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Nothing.

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Hmm, Progressive Metal.

Ayreon
Symphony X
Dream Theater - Awake, only
Liquid Tension Experiment
Fates Warning

That's all I can think of at the moment.

Ayreon is so fucking boring.

Ayreon's CD's all suck besides The Human Equation I enjoyed it quite a lot.

If you are looking to Zero Hour go for either The Towers of Avarice or Metamorphosis

Haha, THE is the only one I have.

Iced Earth.

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Iced Earth isn't prog. They are a mix of power and thrash.

I know. That was a joke. The only progressive thing about Iced Earth is Jon Schaffer's ego.

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Andromeda is good prog-metal
Also Aghora a fairly unknown band that has some members of Cynic in it.

No, they are metalcore. Gothic guys trying to be metal but failing miserably, and yes, their guitarists are decent, but nothing to rave about. I think I have made my point. Go back to the screamo forums kid, this is a forum for metal bands. Listen to Opeth, some Bodom (pre Hate Crew Deathroll), Necrophagist, and Amon Amarth (just to name a few bands) and come back later and talk real metal.

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You copied and pasted that from somewhere else.

http://www.bnrmetal.com/pages/genres.htm
there and about a hundered other sites
thought i recognised it

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no shit? Man, you sure have it out for me.

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Ok, I'm hearning alot of good things about Cynic, but I can't find them anywhere, can someone help me out? maybe a torrent, download page, whatever..?

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...v=glance&n=5174

Thorazine and Cryptopsy are awesome progressive bands....

Anyone know any good fast and brutal death metal bands with jazz fusion?

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You're in the wrong thread.