There's a lot that can be said for stating the obvious.

Who let this guy in?

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The word "redundant" comes to mind...

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lol I laugh at the mentioning of Loomis and the Opeth guys. Who gives a shit if they don't play constant technical scales, the riffs they write are in my opinion unmatched, and the phrasing of their solos is the freshest and best in modern day music. It is usually thrash fanboys that dislike the kind of music these guitarists write, but to me (and I like thrash as much as the next guy) I think pretty much every guitarist in thrash metal is weak in comparison to these (except Friedman but he wasn't a typical thrash soloist, nor does he play it anymore).

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well said!

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Whoever followed Chris's sarcastic comment with a mention of John Petrucci should go get fucked. Not in the good way. In the prison way. The all-male, conjugal visitless prison way.

I love Chuck and arguing with Transient as much as anybody, but it's not exactly a big deal to say he repeated a lot of ideas. There's nothing to be gained from an argument about that except more posts, and that's what the RTT's for.

As far as the subject at hand:
Kerry's obvious
Dime sounded like he was spinning wheels on Damageplan and certain parts of Reinventing
Zakk Wylde. Any discussion of 'repeating ideas' without mention of Zakk Wylde is so far from complete as to be laughable
Karl Sanders does seem to be getting into a rut, but I wouldn't say anything bad about him just yet
Petrucci has no songwriting skills to speak of. The ultimate bedroom guitarist given a break. No wonder so many other bedroom guitarists look up to him
Mustaine hasn't had much to say when soloing in a long while, though I did like him as late as Countdown as a break from Friedman's increasingly overbearing and ubiquitous style
Hammett. Also not a songwriter
Pat O'Brien's songwriting tends to leave me cold, though his songs are often handy for practicing rhythm playing skills
Mohammed Suicmez doesn't do a damn thing for me. He has all the tools and, as far as I'm concerned, nothing to say
Ditto everybody else about whom your first comment would be 'listen to how fast he sweeps!'
Jon Schaffer could only get so far on Metallica-style riffing with sped up Maiden triplets, and that wasn't very far at all
Over the course of Dead Heart in a Dead World and Enemies of Reality, it was becoming increasingly clear that Loomis had gotten stuck in a world in which long, practice-sounding diminished runs repeated over and over could serve as solos, but for whatever reason he fell out of that rut with This Godless Endeavor. Good for him
The boys from Opeth seem to have ground to a halt, trying everything to write something different and repeatedly having it come out the same. Which is really what most people want from them, anyway
I hear John Mansley's playing is highly overrated, and most of his solos are just copied from Nile
Eddy Van Halen got annoying fast. Listen to the lead on Jump and you should know what I mean. Nobody's ever descended so deeply into self-parody so quickly
I'm not that strong myself, come to think of it
Johnny Lang annoys the piss out of me. Kenny Wayne Shephard just wants to be SRV. Derek Trucks rules
Mongrain seems to be only capable of writing good solos. He should throw some bad ones in to mix it up
David Gilmour suffers from an overflow of taste, whereas most guitarists are absolutely tasteless. Share the wealth, Gilmy
Jim is not a very good guitarist at all

Is that enough? I'll leave it to you to sort out which were serious.

yeah that weas good pst, good to see you back , too. i might steal your bedroom line about petrucci

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His song writing is basically almost the same concept and style for each whole album but each of his songs is significantly different from the other (at least it is for me). Has anybody listened to their newest album, Are you dead yet. It is pretty good but they changed their style by a lot. It is much slower and more heavy metal than neoclassical. Necrophagist is good but the songs sound almost identical. Graveworm is good but each of their album is almost identical as well. The singer always sings the same exact way for each album.

That's damn true!

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I didn't read all of the posts but... Nile, COB, Cage, Carcass, ...fuck a shitload others...they just get old quickly and I consider that bad song writing or "weak guitarists." I don't know just need more change or at least... or somethign fuck.

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Ahh i wouldnt say carcass are bad songwriters, swansong was a great album!

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Carcass, hahaha, yeah they can't write song.

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I take it you havent heard ''Swansong''..

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Dead to rights. I'm fucking awful.

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so true, hate eternal just seems to basic for my tastes ummmm......
the guitarists from DragonForce, man they suck, nah just playin 'bout DragonForce, if you want creativity , give them a listen

yes we do

you shouldn't ge mad over other peoples opinions, you have yours and they have theirs, it's cool, let it be

i love darkest hour to death, but the solo from the single "convalescence" off the new album is just weak, ridiculous, and nothing great. the song kick ass, but the solo sucks. it opens with 5 bends that sound shitty as hell, and i wonder, "do the dudes in DH think that that solo is cool?" i'm sure someone will disagree with me, and want to fight or something

im sick of zakk wylde..... his stuff with bls is just horrible. all the riffs consist of the same five power chords. and all the solos pretty musch sound exactly the same..... he just plays a bunch of random hammer-ons and frettboard taps.

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It was more like a joke man.

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Blasphemy! Carcass write great songs.

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It was sarcasm.

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Glad to know.

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in this i was speaking of weak songwriting, the solo is too obnoxious

repetetive?

PHIL ANSELMO... pretty much all of superjoints songs are the same scale, same powerchords.

and his 4 string guitar rhythm guy who also played with Corrosion of Conformity... one of them play the same bend in every song, right before the vocals start.


and zakk wylde cant write a song for shit. He can solo like hell, but his songs consist of way too many pinch harmonics, and about 2 power chords, which are only changed by palm muting every once in a while.

theres my 2 cents

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nah zakks solos suck..... no melody, no flow, its just really choppy. he is WAY overrated.

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Wow, i'm surprised it took so long for someone to actually say that. I'm really not a huge fan of his songs. But they definetly could be worst. But wow, I hate his singing. I know thats not the topic at all but i hate his singing. I really think he should have stuck with ozzy..... and let other people write his songs. haha

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so true

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