I don't mind other people liking him. Hawaii and Cacophony, etc... bore the shit out of me personally and are part of my long list of albums I sold back in less than a year, but I'll take it back for shits and replace him with Kirk Hammett. It's just that Kirk is such an easy target I thought I should give him a break for once...

I'd get beaten to death if I said. The most under rated though is Mike Torrao (I think that's how you spell it)...

Reading this thread is funny... people bash Peter like mad, saying shit like "Just cause you can play some slayer riffs" when infact he's been playing for 20 years and writes much better shit than Kerry ever did or will.



But yes, Kerry is extremely overrated. Atleast Hammet has an idea of what he's doing.

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I second that. Randy Rhads ruled. Especially over Kirk Hammet. Or the guy who posted that dumb ass comment. I love Randy's style and he has awesome tone on Blizzrd of Oz. That's the only Ozzy album that I have.

Kirk Hammet needs to lay off the goddamned wah pedal. That's all he ever does, fucking wah wah waaaaaaaaaaaah. It's fucking stupid and annoying. On the Black Album, he ruined half the damn songs. Sounds like he's playing a goddamn haromnica. Kerry King's no John Petruci either, but at least he can write and knows how to use a wah pedal appropriately.

Who the hell famous isn't over rated? I'm sure they don't go around seriously saying, "I'm the best... Bottom line"! Kirk is a good guitarist but I think the promotors give him more credit than he would ever give himself. Same for any guitarist. Every guitarist knows there is someone somewhere that can do something better than them.

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Alexi laiho I love the songs he writes but alot of the solos are boring and repetitive they take skill but they sound boring as hell.

kirk hammet most overrated guitar player ever to me

kerry king as others said good riffs horride leads and it does piss me the hell off that when I open a magazine that they throw a picture of his mug on a worth less than piss guitar.

My teacher he thinks he's so great with his finger style classical 200bpm stuff

But one thing to remeber about all these guitar players they are exceptional kirk hammet, kerry king, Alexi and they could prolly play circles around alot of other guitarist. You can't judge a guitar player on gear and style of music. I bet kirk could give dave and alexi a run for their money in a shred contest but he sure as hell wouldn't win (period) As for my teacher the guy isn't famous therefore can't be overrated. If by some chance my teacher is looking at these boards I was kidding I don't know how fast you can play.

I would say that Dave Mustaine is a underrated famous player, but up to the challage that any famious play could throw at him. I think he would beat the hell out of king, Hammett, and 90% of other players if it came to a shred contest.

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Dave rules. What he needs to do is go back to that awesome thrash album he produced rust in peace and write some more stuff like that. Dave would beat the hell out of kerry,and kirk. I would like to see dave vs alexi that would interesting. In the end kirk and kerry get to much credit alexi and dave would beat the the blood filled snot out of them both in a shred contest and among other people.

there is no way randy rhoads was or is over rated.

over rated = kirk hamett

angus young
kirk hammet

lots of others because all the rappers think that some crapy people like kurt cobain or the sum 41 asses are soo great and amasing at everything...

by the way... i have nothing agains kurt cobain... although he does suck at guitar...

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dave and kirk= no contest, dave wins

although dave and kerry? that would be kick ass to watch...\m/ but in the end i think your right... dave wins

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Yeah... Friedman can't write, Cacophony was a fucking joke...

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Tom Morrello is very overrated.. he might as well be a dj he doesn't even really play guitar he spends his time using effects instead of actually creating something with the guitar.

Bob Vigna is not overrated if anything he's underrated

I agree, but theres a few people here that would disagree.

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Jimmy Page - absolutely horrible guitarist sounds like a freakin trainwreck

jimmy page is an amazing guitarist,
but your right about the train wreck
he sounds awefull live

he does actually

Megadeth was awesome.

I know!

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Kirk Hammet, all covered in wah wah.

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1st of all: What mean over rated??

posibilities:
a1) A famous guitar player that plays bad riffs
a2)" " " " " " " solos
b) A famous guitar plyer that you don´t like
C) TEchnically good, but not sensitively
d) The guitar player you wanna be

I think KOrn guys are over rated, limp bizkit guys are over rated,evenescence guys are over rated,... but I don´t think that metal guitar players in general should be overarated.

I don´t like Ingwye malmsteen at all, for example,, but I think technically he is very fast.


The only one here who is OVERRATED is ME.

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BLASPHEMY!

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fuck you buddy dimebag owns! and any one who says terranca hobbs is overrated should be punched in their teeth.

My impression of overrated is a guitarist who is constantly spotlighted and interviewed in guitar rags, repeatedly places high in "Greatest guitar player of all time" polls taken by the general public, and yet has never written a good song and/or is in fact shitty but is in a really good band.

I consider Kirk Hammet to be overrated specifically because he doesn't write anything songwise to speak of, he ripped off Dave Mustaine's solos when he first joined, he famously took lessons from Satriani during the eighties and showed no improvement after the experience, and his solos are repetitive and dull. Despite all of this people constantly vote him as a great guitar player.

Steve Vai is overrated IMO because he is technically amazing and highly prolific, but has yet to write a good riff or create an album that I want to listen to more than three times. Since he routinely is voted a great guitar player, he is also overrated. I personally dump people like Vinnie Moore, Paul Gilbert, Jason Becker, and Marty Friedman in this same category.

Malmsteen, Dave Mustaine, Van Halen, Chuck Schuldiner, Alex Skolnick, Randy Rhoads, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Tom Morello, and Uli Jon Roth are people I don't consider to be overrated at all because of the contributions they have made to recorded music.

I don't consider James Hetfield to be overrated either because he has written a shitload of great riffs (minus all the ones he stole from Mustaine) and has had a major impact on the guitar world. I even consider the occasional solos he does to be far better than Hammet's. Even without that I don't feel it is a requirement for people to solo in order to be a great guitarist. The Edge from U2 is a perfect example of someone I would say is absolutely a great guitarist and is not overrated in the least.

No, I'd agree Dimebag is quite overrated.

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without a doubt Angus Young from Ac/Dc

Angus is awesome. He deserves everything he gets. Not even close to overrated.

Dimebag isen't overrated, of course after his death EVERYONE started calling him the greatest metal guitarist ever and such. Dimebag wasen't over the top.. he didnt force solo's or showoff.. not because he couldn.t but because he wrote songs.

He is definetly one of the most influencial guitarist of the past decade.

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He could shred real good, REAL good...

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We are not talkinga bout if he is influential or not, we are talkinga bout if he actually is as good as all he fanboys make him out to be, and I don't think he is.

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Well thats your opinion.

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No fucking shit. Thats what this whole topic is, people's opinions about who is overrated and who is not. Wow, way to state the fucking obvious.

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he is good but almost every ac/dc fan thinks hes better than... lets say, steve vai and joe satriani put together... therefore yes, he is overated...

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dimebag was and has always been my favorite guitarists since i was like 12 when i was first getting into metal cause thats whne you start to find the direction in music that your going. i mean songs like floods and cemetary gates makes him the shit plain and simple.

Who gives a flying fuck who the most overrated guitarist is? They're all better than the rest of us, otherwise they wouldn't be where they are today

He is better than Steve Vai and Joe Satriani put together. Bands like G3 are a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Angus is an extremely talented and original blues based rock guitarist on both rhythm and lead, he was a major composition contributor to several of the greatest rock albums of all time, when he plays he gets into a sweat drenched frenzy and appears to be possessed, and his outfit is hilarious. I'm not even a big AC/DC fan anymore, but that's mainly because I don't like Brian Johnson's voice and I hear them enough on the radio that I don't feel the need to play their albums these days.

Vai and Satriani are basically top notch guitar instructors with a few decent instructional CD's which were released under the guise of music (IMO). Every time Vai joins a band it fails and Satriani has never really tried.

If the rumors are true that Malcom Young taught Angus how to play all his leads in the early years, then Malcom may be the most underrated guitarist of all time, but Angus still rules.

well i have met KK and he is a cocksucker.....biggest tool i have met.

tom was cool, jeff and paul were nice......but KK was just trying to tune some 16yr old groupie...not interested in the fans..

so if you think kk was cool....that means your a bigger cocksucker...did his tatts impress you or something>?

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You came back to say that?

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Without a doubt, the most overated guitarist of all time is Kerry King. Poor Jeff looses all recognition for what he does, and its given to King, who's solos consist mostly of feedback and who's riffs are generally the e-string played open.

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This says over rated metal guitarist......is there simply an "Over rated any guitarist" thread.....if so I could rant and prob get alot of you hating me even more....

heh heh

By far the most over rated metal guitarist is Alexi Laiho

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Damn i should have called that

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yeah your right even though i like kerry's playing
jeff's alot better because he's alot more fluent with his solo's

I love Kerry's solos, the old ones have alot of heart, only the newer ones are destroyed with feedback/wah .

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haha every hates alexi now, it makes me giggle like a school girl in a tight short plaid skirt...... hehehe.......

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Alexi is a good guitarist but his ego is getting too big.



I gotta see your Ran ho.

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I agree


You work today?

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Yea everyone does now.

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I don't...

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same

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im gonna have to say kirk hammet because anything moderatley good that ever came out of metallica was either the idea of Cliff Burton, or on pre-master of puppets dave mustaines songs that they kept. Plus Kirk wasn't even good enough to play most of Daves solos. A lot of the solos he kept were waterd down versions of almighty mustaine solos.

Also jeff Henneaman is way underrated. most slayer solos with the least bit of theory or fluidity are his work not kings.

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Maybe that there is nothing special about Kirk Hammet, but hes solos perfectly fits into music. For me this is the most important thing. You can do megaspeed difficult-to-play solo and "O shit it dont make sense" .
Dose who says that Kirk is using to much of Wah, I could you say somthing like that abou Jimi Hendrix too.

I don't work today....I'm off tomorrow at 6:30


And I don't need no mo ridez....I gotta Ford Tempo now with a bent frame and its gonna break in half

anywayz my # is 303 776 4652...I still don't have a cell...but i have some Jagermeister

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I really like Kerry King's stuff, all the amelodic stuff that still works and stuff is pretty cool. But Hanneman really doesn't get enough credit even though he wrote alot of their good stuff (I think he wrote Angel of Death.) The most overrated folks are those virtuosos - Vai, Malmsteen, and Satriani - They're skilled, but really boring.
I don't know who Alexi is.

Lead geetar and vox for children of bodom.

1. jeff is underated and wrote angel of death
2. vai and satch arent boring... but i havnt heard yngves stuff...
3. i dont really like COB... the vocs and synth just killed that band for me...

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wee! prank calls

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Kirk Hamster is by far the most overratted guitarist in heavy metal. He sounds like a machine, no feel whatsoever. IN my opinion ditching Dave mustaine was the biggest Metallica ever made.
But than again, Megadeth kicked the shit out of Metallica musically so who am I to complain.

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Muhammed - Necrophagist, I actually think he's good but i mean come on some of his riffs are a long pinch harmonic..... and it's just boring, aswell as alot of his songs sounding the same, the band should really be called Muhammed as the bad kinda fits around the guitar if you ask me.

the solo from luc lemay on Das Martyrium Des is gods' gift to this earth.
total fluidity and rape-levels are dangerously high

Not metal, but Jeff Beck and Ritchie blackmore....

Hamster, LOLZ!!!

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I don't get what mean there, sure they're highly rated, but have also been incredibly influential, sure they aren't the BEST players, but they kick ass at what they do!!!

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I don't care how influential they are they're still overrated. I can't get anything too special out of Beck's music....so boring. The fucking guy just doesn't play, you watch him, he fingerpicks, and there's nothing wrong with fingerpicking, but he sucks at it, and when he goes to play a fast lick, he has to use his pick anyways. He doesn't really play any licks, he always just wanks on the whammy (and that doesn't even sound good) or plays stupid tapping stuff. Blackmore on the otherhand is a good songwriter, his riffs and such are good, but he's one of the worst lead players I've ever seen. He again, wanks on the whammy, and again it's not good whammy like Vai, Dime, Van Halen; it's just wanking on the bar. Technique-wise, he's one of the sloppiest I've ever seen, dead-notes and adjacent strings ringing everywhere.

Muhammed Suiçmez
Pat O Brien
Kirk Hammet
Jimmy Hendrix
Randy Rhoads
Alexi Laiho

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How can Randy Rhoads be overrated? He's dead


As far as Muhammed Suiçmez goes, I don't get how he is overrated either. As far as playing and song writing goes, he's good.

never heard such false words, ask any old-school DM'er

Actually I don't listen to too much old school death metal. Unless Atheist, Death and Cynic count, but I do know that Necro isn't going for an old school sound anyway.


I'm not really much of a fan of old school death metal, like CC and Morbid Angel, so that might have something to do with it.

Death Atheist and Cynic are all old school yes

but meh, to each his own right?

Yeah, everyone has their own likes and dislikes.


I just discovered Coroner, they aren't death metal though... I don't think.

Muhammed is so overrated but i don't mind his music makes me happy.

Also i'm pretty sure old school metallers have differences in opinion from each other too y'know?

Kirk Hammet, yes he's overrated, but usually only by Metallica fan boys who still think that band are any good.

Kerry King. He's a very visual guy who is thrown on the front of guitar magazines cos he looks metal, and all the kids wanna learn 'Raining Blood' and 'South of Heaven' and his tattoos sell guitars/magazines/firewood. Apart from that, I don't really know how he's considered 'overrated'. Afterall, it was Jeff who wrote the riff that's considered the best metal riff of all time (that middle part in Angel of Death).

Anyone who dies usually suffers a backlash of "oh they weren't as great as everyone says, they only say that cos he's dead", like Hendrix, Dimebag, Rhodes, Shuldiner... etc etc.

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i just said that

"to each his own"?????

Kirk isn't as overrated as people make him out to be, despite $$$$llica not having put out a decent record in over a decade, but his lead playing is by no means shite, definitely above average for the thrash metal bands of their time(pre-87).

Rhoads and Dimebag are the most overrated probably. Laiho is a runner up too.

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Yeah I forgot Dimebag as well.

Also I find Muhhumad overatted cause it seems he writes the same song over and over again. Same with Pat O Brien. They try and cram too much into it and the songs I find never really go anywhere. It's just the same minor runs over and over and the solos are just sweep fests. It's not even song writting it's just wanking

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dimebag? hell no! Laiho? hell yes!

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I wouldn't say Muhammad is an overrated guitarist, everyone in Necrophagist are seriously talented at their instruments, but the music itself gets old very fast. So I'd say Necrophagist are overrated, not Muhammad himself.

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Very good point.

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I don't think Dime was the greatest thing ever but I don't think he's overrated in terms of metal. He was a riff monster and he had great chops. There's no fucking way you could say Dime was overrated but Kirk's okay. IMO Kirk is a ridiculous reason to be hailed as a god.

dude rick rozz is one of my favorites dude from beyond by massacre kicked ass

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Even if he was a good player he can still be overatted. Far too many people hail him as a guitar god after his death. And yeah he was pretty popular before as well. I will admit he was a huge inspiration for a lot of people and stuff but to me he seemed like he always played the same stuff over and over again. That southen metal type style. Now that's his style I understand that but I still belive people put him on much to high a rank (Because he is popular and more of an inspiration) than other players who would blow DIme out of the water.

Same with Hendrix. I was very dissapointed when I heard people rank him as "Greatest Guitarist of All Time" Now I am a fan. But there is a lot better out there. People put Hendrix and a lot of people who are good but not the greatest as "The best" simply because of popularity. He was a guitar god for his time but since then there has been A LOT better comming out.

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I love Rick Rozz as well. Even if he sucks at guitar. He wrote some awsome riffs. Plus he was so jolly and big that I just love him.

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Anyone dead really.

This is what i hear a lot, DIMEBAG!!!!!! WE WILL NEVER FORGETTTT!!! YOU WERE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!!

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.

Hes good but fuck, people hype him up wayyyy too much.

I saw Anders Bjorler's name in this thread...His riffs are awesome his solos arent that good because ATG didnt really solo a lot, the songs on SOTS were all around 3 min. If they had put more emphasis on them he would have done better. I have no idea what hes done with The Haunted, i heard 2 of their new songs and they sucked. I may check out their early stuff though.

Oh id like to add Patrick Pintavalle and Peter Joseph, stupid cunts.

Just kidding ihave27frets!

EDIT: Id like to also add Herman Li and i think the name is Sam Totman from DragonForce.

Hendrix is different, of course there are guys with greater technical skill and mastery of the guitar now, but who else was had rock presence, rock style riffs and licks, and attitude like Hendrix back in the 60's? Hendrix is considered one of the greatest solely on influence, not necessarily by playing. You can't say this guy's much better than Hendrix, if the guy comes out 20 years after Hendrix's death, that's not fair.

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Kerry King. He's a very visual guy who is thrown on the front of guitar magazines cos he looks metal, and all the kids wanna learn 'Raining Blood' and 'South of Heaven' and his tattoos sell guitars/magazines/firewood. Apart from that, I don't really know how he's considered 'overrated'. Afterall, it was Jeff who wrote the riff that's considered the best metal riff of all time (that middle part in Angel of Death).

Fuck yeah!! I always thought jeff's leads were way better than Kerry Kings

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I don't hear much differences in either of their leads, Slayer is horrible at leads, even King admits that he just goes and wings it. I think they're good rhythm/riff players though...

king isn't overated guys

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their leads are great for what they do.

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Well wern't they the first ones to sort of bring that random chaotic run and yank the shit out of the trem bar who cares if it fits solo style to popularity?

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No, Ritchie Blackmore did the whammy shit years before...

The whammy can be OK in moderation.

Listen to At The Gates-Cold solo, Andy LaRoque(i think thats the name, prob wayy wrong) guitarist for King Diamond(at the time, i dont know if he still is) sis this crazy sounding thing with the whammy, youll know it when you hear it.

Watch this at 3:41, this is what I mean by shit whammy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FjBylFNA6k

Yeah shit I forgot

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I think that dimebag is the most over rated guitar player because if he dident get shot nobody would have ever payed as much attention as he is getting now,I also am not a big fan of pantera or any of his other projects but still he was a great guitarist

Well, it seems everybody is preoccupied with this 'overrated' stuff.

I wish I was overrated.

There is so much music to go around and there's plenty for everybody. What's the point of putting guitarists up to eachother? If you took King and put him in Pantera instead of Dime, and vice versa, what would be the outcome?

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slayer would sound awesome and pantera would suck

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You know the Abbott's tried out for Megadeth but Dave already had a drummer

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he should have joined megadeth and maybe they wouldn't be playing less agressive stuff

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