Can anyone tell me what guitars and what models are they that, the black dahlia murder,terror,and unearth play...


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Black Dahlia uses custom Esps most likely, but i know for sure they plug into a dual rectifier.

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The Black Dahlia Murder kick ass... I can't wait to see them live in October! wooo. Unearth is great too.

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one of the guys from the Black Dahlia uses some kind of Jackson (soloist probably). Nice lookin guitar.

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Unearth uses Ibanez.

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Here's what Unearth uses:

Guitars: (both) Ibanez RG 7, Ibanez S-series 7

Amps: (both) Framus Cobra and Dragon heads through Framus 4*12 and VHT 4*12 P50 cabs

Effects: (both) Maxon overdrive, wah, digital delay and noise suppressor pedals.

Strings: (both) DR 7-string pack (0.010-0.056)

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lol, ur name sucks ass. so does mine, but yors made me laugh

black dahlia murder - lead uses a Jackson Soloist, rhythm custom ESP eclipse
terror - nothing but ESP, they uses many different models
Unearth - all Ibanez 7 strings except on a few songs, in which they use ibanez 6 strings

Go see them live and find out..

their all on tour together too!

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Which one is the RG 7 on the site, http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/series.asp?s=rg&l=e, or the
S-series 7

http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/series.asp?s=s&l=e

I want a good ibanez ill spend up to 400 maybe 500, also something with good stock pick ups... if you guys can help, thanks

the one that says RG you stupid cunt

go 2 a muzic st0re!!
yeh, just go to like a guitar center and try out the ones in your price range and note the ones you liked the most. Thats the best way to do it.

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black dahlia plays jackson and esp&ltd guitars with mesa rectos....

unearth uses ibanez s series and rg series 7 strings...
when i saw them about a month ago with lamb of god and E.T.I.D. one guy had a framus cobra as his main head + a rack full of stuff, then he also had a framus dragon as a back up to the cobra, then the other guy had a framus cobra+ rack full of stuff and then a mesa recto as a backup to his cobra.

but def was saying something about they used to use engl stuff in the "stings of conscience" days. but i'm not sure.

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Unearth dosent play that pos..

Ken plays the Ibanez S7420
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...e_id=0020583305


and Buz uses some sort of an Ibanez RG.. hard to tell which model, could be the RG7620 or even the RG1527

they both use EMG 707's in the bridge and have an inactive passive pickup in the neck which they obviously dont use.

http://www.blistering.com/fastpage/...th-081302-7.jpg

http://www.prophecy21.com/6/unearth/unearth628.jpg

they used to play ESP guitars, hence why Buz's ESP shirt is inside out

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Do any ibanez come with EMGs?

No. You have to put them in yourself.

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Well i never have time to go to a guitar store, so thats why im asking around, ive been looking and ibanez is the one that i want but just dont know anything about them or know which model to get...I wanted a guitar that has EMGs installed in them already also.

they switch on and off between rg and s series guitars... last time i saw them they were both playing s series ones... but you could clearly see the backup guitars(a couple rgs and another s series)...

nicer ibanez's normally come stock with dimarzios... which are fine... but if you insist on emg's you can get them installed or if you have the know how(it isnt that hard) you can save yourself a lil' $$$ and install them your self. then sell the stock ones on evilbay or put them in another guitar.

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EMG's wont fit directly into an Ibanez 7 string.

You need to route some mroe wood out. Just stick with the Dimarzio's

Dimarzio's and Seymour Duncans kick EMG's ass anyday.

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You said that nicer ibanez's normally come stock with dimarzios, can u point me to some links where i can check them out..

thanks

Just check Ibanez.com. You should find everything you need to know.

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Yeah, they used Engl back in the day, or at least, one of their guitarist did, I saw them before the strings of conscience came out, when it came out, I allready had it for two months to preview for inside knowledge (www.insideknowledge.net)

on of those guys used a JCM900 live too, the small guy, I have no idea what his name is. their bassist played Ibanez BTB5's both and Hartke, well the four times I saw them, he played that. maybe he's upgraded by now since they've been getting a lot of attention in the last two years.
I must say the tone of 'the oncoming storm' is pretty different.
I only talked to Trevor a couple of times (the vocalist) he's cool, when they played in Arnhem last year he came up to me and talked for a bit, he reminded my face, and the first time I talked to him was in the end of 2000 when they where recording 'the strings of conscience' so that was pretty darn cool of him.

Loads of metalcore bands seem to be changing tone every now and then, which is weird. Caliban (germany's best metalcore band) still uses engl though, but they've changed their tone quite a bit. their new album doesn't appeal to me at all.

as for Terror, they use esp's, those EC models and viper model bass guitars. don't recall what amps they used, I remember one mesa on stage, the allmost inevidable recto. it was about a year ago, at Groezrock, good stuff. better then Hatebreed by far. shame they didn't bring Freddy Madball for some extra vocals, he does some vocals on 'one with the underdogs' too, the song is 'I'll find my way' Madball style, fucking ownage, like allways!

Ok thanks for the info, heres another question,..

I went to samedaymusic.com and most of the pick ups on the ibanez`s even some of the more expensive ones come with
PSND1 (H) Neck PU

PSNDS (S) Mid PU

PSND2 (H) Bridge PU

i dont get it.

Get an RG

Japaneese Made

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what dont you get?

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RG which model is nice.

can you show me some links.



thanks

I dont get how most of the guitars have the same pick ups, i would think they would be better for more money.

I dont know, Ibanez must think that you are going to change them anyways or something. Which is stupid.

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The pick ups (pups) are not where all the money is at. A guitar may have the same pups as another but cost more since it has better hardware and construction. If you want EMG then you will have to learn to put them in. It isn't hard and there are lots of threads here that give detailed directions about how to do it, plus EMG.com tells you how to do it too. Just buy a Ibanez RG and some EMG's and do it yourself. It's easy!

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See im confused when you guys say that, ibanez RG.. theres alot of differ models.

I like this one http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--IBARG370DX
also http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--IBARG321...

also since there both the same stock pickups, are they anygood..

I would say that your first one is the best, IMO. Depending on what you want in a guitar should determind what model you get and the cost. I know you don't know that much about Ibanez guitars but I hope you clearly see the difference in the two guitars you posted. The first is the one I would get. I see no problems with it and it would take EMG's easy.

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The 370 would be the better choice.

But the rg550 would be the best

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Sweet you guys are the best, thanks

I can find any sites with the rg550.Cant find it on the site either.

Say i get the Ibanez RG370DX and i want to add EMGs what about the single coil, can i leave it in there or?....

Well you could just leave it in there but you should never have it connected with the EMG's, which means it would be there for looks and died. You could also get a sigle coil EMG and replace the middle pup and then use it with the other EMG's.

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So if i leave it in there for looks, the channel switch will only work for the emgs right?
lol im kind of slow on this guitar stuff..

I was reading about the 370dx and they have flat and fast Wizard and Wizard II necks or something like that, is that decent?

Wizard II neck -- 25.5 scale neck is 2mm thicker than the super-thin, super-flat Ibanez Wizard.

Maple neck material
thanks

Well both of those necks feel the same to me, so if one is 2 mm thicker then who cares. Wizard whatever necks are wonderful. I think you would like that Ibanez with EMG, and yes, if you wire the guitar for just the EMG then the middle pup will never be activated. It's only purpose would be to fill space and look nice. What you could do to simplify things is just replace the 5 way blade switch with a 3 way blade switch while installing the EMG's. That way you wouldn't have 2 points on the switch that are died and the EMG's will always be on as though the guitar only had 2 pups.

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if you want a 6 string you should buy my pgm 30.... it's very rg style.

depends on the sound you want...

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im talking bout a good sound, with nice cleans.

BIATCH!! I start to dislike EMG's more and more.

My one guitar with the 81 sounds so fake to me now, where my other guitars with Duncans and Dimarzio's sound organic, warm... just all around good.

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For tone go Dimarzio or SD for sterility go for Emg!!

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EMG's Are the best for me... Then again I like that crisp, evil, digital punch out of EMG's... Then again, I'm bearly human after being a produce of government military experiments.....

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DRONE!!!!!


WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU!!

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Ahahaaha... More or less, yes, but I have always liked EMG.

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Soulinsane do you play any ibanez?
And also if i add EMGs 81\85 to the 370dx what kind of sound will i get, any type of band sound in particular..

thanks for all the help everyone

there. you pretty much nailed whats wrong with emg's.

well, its not 'wrong' but thats the downside of active pu's.

about the 370dx, you can throw those pickups right outta the window when you take it out of the box. I would prolly go with some nice dimarzio's or SD's if you want to go even heavier.

I've got a RG750, a pre'90 model with the original Edge trem, it owns. and I got it used for a good price, its on the same level as the prestiges nowaday, actually, it was the paul gilbert guitar before he got his own sig. nice bounded headstock/neck too, I use it with dimarzio tone zone's and a blue velvet in the middle pos.

If I wanted EMG's I'de probably stick them in a gibby les paul for a brutal bashing sound a lá Zakk Wylde. they sound thinner in an SG and I don't think they sound great in RG's at all. the Les Paul's fattness makes EMG's stand out.

Well i want a nice clean heavy ass sound.

i don't see why everybody hates emg's around here... i think they sound fine... an emg 60 in the neck position is my favorite for cleans... 81's and 85's are pretty nice to...
they don't sound like duncan's or dimarzios, but that's because they're emg's...

personally i love more passive pickups than active ones, but my next guitar is going to be a 1972 tele thinline with an emg 60 in the neck and duncan livewire metal in the bridge.... fantastic... but first i need to sell my pgm 30.

in my rg 570 i'm trying to figure out if i like the duncan jb or dimarzio tonezone better... if only they had one that was like a mixture...
my guitarist just ditched the emg's in his sg... he has the stock neck pu back in there because he likes it's solo tone, and he's thinking of going for a dimarzio super distortion or a gibson dirty fingers.

but i'd hardly say that emg's are super sterile or fake sounding... alot depends on the guitar, the amp, and the person playing.

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I don't think there's anyone who 'hates' EMG's here, haha.

in comparisson, all active pickups sound more sterile, but thats just the characteristic of active pickups, they do have a lot of output and sound really tight, tighter then most passive pu's. they can sound really brutal. best example how tight an emg can sound is dino cazares. I let a friend of mine try his LP with EMG zakk wylde set and it was really brutal through both my tube amps. but the overall tone remained the same, didn't do much for me, but I can understand why some people love them. If I had a solid state setup I'de probably use them to in one of my guitars. Livewires are better, but they have different characteritics, they're more like a boosted passive in sound.

as for RG's, I love my tone zone's in it, they're not as heavy as a duncan JB set, but they sound great overall, they can really scream out on the high notes and they just compliment your playing when you're doing solos.

So as for the rg 370dx which pickups would sound heavier or better in them, i want something with a nice clean heavy sound, maybe something like KSE, lamb of god, sorta of like that.

thanks

ty

If you want a good clean sound than get some good Passives, im not a fan of EMG cleans at all.

EMG's will give more of a tight, punchy sound...

Passives will give you more tonal options.

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I also need a good amp that will go good with the 370dx, i just want something that sounds good.. My price range prob 400$ or something, any1 got any ideas, any help will be good,..

for 400 you can probably get eh... a nice cabinet

Alright thanks....

Are these any good,
http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--JAC2900014
http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--JAC2900012

no

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Well I made a thread similar to this not too long ago, and had about the same price range for getting a new amp and the more experienced members recomended either getting a used Peavey 5150 Combo or a Crate Blue Voodoo-60 halfstack, so I would say check those two out.

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word. those are the crappiest jacksons around. USA Jackons are great though.

as for getting a new amp for 400, you're going into the used market for sure because its hard to find an amp for that price thats decent. a 5150 combo would be neat for that price, if they're that cheap over there.

what amp are you using right now?

$400.... umm... a used crate bv60 combo is well under that... 60w tube and either 1x12 or 2x12 models...

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Im buying a new distortion this week im sick of my metal zone, and i was wondering whats a nice distortion with nice clean heavy sound,

thanks

Ill check them out.

thanks

don't worry about pedals.... that's what you should look for in an amp is a good/great distortion channel.... something like the bv could slay any of those little metal stomboxes.

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I was wondering, how do bands like killswitch and unearth get there metal sound, its heavy, and they have that high pitch on some strings.
thanks

unearth: good guitars with good spec's(pickups n' such), framus cobras and dragons, and a rack full of goodies.... if you have the gear they have and you can't get a great sound out of it then you simply suck.....
as for studio... you can do even more wonders in there.

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Hello, have any of you got the new shadows fall cd, they have a bonus dvd with them teaching you guitar lessons on some of the songs, i was wondering what kind of amp they were using, i no it was a marshal but dont no which one, and also if any one else knows what else they used......

JCM 800 John
JCM 2000 Matt

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That sounds cool. Is it a good lesson?

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FearFrost, matt uses a Mode Four with Ts-9 in front of it, And John uses a jcm 800s clean chanel and uses some effects pedal for his dist. They said this in my issue of guitar world.

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Yeah, they teach you, well not really teach, show you how to play 2 of there new songs.

Do you guys know any cool effects pedal with good dist, like shadows fall or kse....

Meh

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Ok i have the metal zone pedal and DigiTech RP50 Guitar Multi-Effects Processor, is it possible to conbine both, if so, can any post some good sounds...

thanks

Wow, theyre retarded! REALLY retarded.

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Guitar world says alot of things. They cant have that because their tone is too good.

I dont know, I never really thought their tone was that great. But yeah, guitar world says a lot of things..

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I didnt say they had a wonderful tone though. But their tone doesnt suck. You cant get that kind of tone with shit amps.

guitar world didnt say it, both matt and john said it in an interveiw/guitar lesson thing.

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+1
though i wouldnt doubt what guitar world says too much, but i'm sure they have many setups... the mode four could easily be one of them because they do have that simple marshall tone that could be found amongst many marshalls... though i don't see the point of the ts-9 because the mode four has to much gain available as it is and shadow's fall don't even use that much gain.

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the ts-9 is on the zero gain signal boost setting ive talked about before.

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I was thinking about getting the ibanez370dx, but i have changed my mind, cuz i can get about 300-500, but have no clue what to look into getting, if you guys have any ideas, would help alot..
thanks

Ok, I understand it all now.

i'd find a used guitar... $300-$500 can go a long ways on the used market.

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Hello, can any point me to a decent cab for under 400$ and also a head for under 400$ and whatever else i need.

ty

assuming you're talking u.s. dollars.... $400 can get you a great used cab or a pretty good new cab.
i see 1960 cabs going for like $300 these days used.
for a head however, if you must buy new then you're definately looking at s.s.
and $400 still wont go far there.
even on the used market $400 wont give you much options for tube stuff.
the blue voodoos are about that(usually a little less), or if you could find a trashed 5150... also, laney and sovtek stuff(used of course)....

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Alright, thanks for all the help.

I need a good guitar with EMGs stock, any1 got any ideas.

esp ltd mh 400 or somet has emgs stock, aint to bad

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Meh stay away from it, lowest id buy from ESP is the 1000/Deluxe LTD Series, the floyds are original and theyre neck-thru.

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I was looking at ESP guitars and i noticed i cant find any that say ESP on the head of the neck, they all say LTD and i hate that, does anyone know why.


thanks

Yeah.

LTD's are non-american ESP's, in other words, pretty crappy ESP knock off's which they sell ''as'' ESP, but if you put them next to each other you'll see and feel the difference immidiatly, some retards can't tell the difference in sound, but I'm pretty sure 80% will hear it at the first couple of notes...

they're factory produced outside the US and carry cheapern hardware, pickups and woods. so there you go.

Ok, for their price they aren't all that crap, but they're not american ESPs, those are way more expensive.

real esp's cost more... musicians friend catologs and other small dealers prefer to show off the more affordable git's.

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So real ESPs should say ESP on it, cuz i was looking at a nice one for 700, and it says ESP on the neck.

It will say Ltd if its an Ltd. If it doesnt say Ltd it is a real ESP.

Only ESP. No Ltd anywhere and it's a ESP for sure... Just as long it's not a nock off.

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Hmm this is the one i want http://www.music123.com/ESP-EC1000-i16978.music

it says LTD on it. Or even this one is nice http://www.music123.com/ESP-VB400-B...e-i126069.music. Some1 said it handles low tuning good.

No such thing as an American Made ESP, their all made in Japan.

and the EC-1000 is a nice guitar, but i think passives sound better in it.

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TOLD!

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Can any1 tell me a decent\good ibanez for 400-500$