Chris Barnes Is A Pussy (by Anal Cunt)

YOU HID ON YOUR BUS
YOU WHERE AFRAID OF US
YOU WOULDN'T FIGHT ME CUZ YOU'RE GAY
YOU HAD YOUR ROADIES SAVED TODAY

CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE FUCKING GAY
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE A FUCKING FAGGOT
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE BREATH SMELLS LIKE CUM
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU LIKE DICKS UP YOUR ASS

YOU'RE A FUCKING MIDGET, SO YOU CAN BLOW GUYS WITHOUT KNEELING
YOU & ALLEN WEST MET AT A GAY BAR AND WANTED TO START A BAND
YOU GOT KICKED OUT OF CANNIBAL CORPSE BECAUSE YOU SUCK
YOU STARTED SIX FEET UNDER AND THEY SUCK TOO

I'LL FIGHT YOU ANYTIME YOU FAG
BUT YOU'LL HAVE YOU'RE RODIES FIGHT FOR YOU
IF YOU SO BRUTAL, WHY WONT YOU FIGHT ME BY YOURSELF
YOU FUCKING CUM GUZZLING FAGGOT HOMO PUSSY

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AUSCHWITZ THUNDER PIG!!!????!!!???? LMAO!!!!

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If you want to keep your voice in good shape and be able to sing for a long time the volume used is quite low...it varies a lot depending of the note or tone you're going for, that's why compression is used and a mike hehe, that's the crucial part. You are using a microphone you don't need to yell in order to sound like you're doing so.
this goes for all the guys who want to do that screaming shit and all...cheers

Okay... i was on www.hdpvidz.com and downloaded Cradle of Filth- Cradle to enslave (ive never heard them before) and i hated them, but one thing that caught my attention was the singers extra high pitched squeel, is that a falsetto type of singing, what is he doing it sound nearly impossible.

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Also, can you only scream high if you really really really project it? Because if i dont let 100% loose i cant scream very high. And even if i do go loose it doesnt feel like my voice is going as high as it can. I can sing MUCH highter than i can scream.

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I just finished recording inhaled pig/gutterals/whateverthefuck vocals on my band's song, Not uploading it on myspace (don't know if the other members want to keep it) but if anyone's interested in hearing it, PM me.

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Update: I have just recorded a death metal-style outhaled growled version of the song, but still containing bits of inhaled gutteral shit, including a 19 second inhale scream (No I don't suck, I can do it longer, it just fits the song.)
Again, if anyone wants to hear it, PM me.

by the way, I suck ass.. so if anyone actually would want to hear it, don't expect anything that good.

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"Inhale scream".....the very words of that don't make any sense.

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I don't know what else to call it, but yeah when you think about it, sounds pretty stupid, hah

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Really sucks if you have a milk allergy though. Tobasco sauce works just fine for me.

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hah, I fucking hate tobasco sauce. Not hot enough, and tastes disgusting IMO.

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hi i just saw your post and decided to say somthing. the key to screaming relys on three factors.1. what type of music your into.2.how much your willing to put into it.3.the use of distortion or not. now im going to assume that you listen to death metal. in this case i will use the vocal patterns of trevor strnad from the black dahlia murder. he uses a combination of highs and lows. if sang well enough they can be a very leathle combination. before you start you should warm up first.and make shur that you dont have to take a shit (very important!). now to know what your vocal range is start a scream and go from low to high as slow as you can and as hard as you can with out your voice breaking. do this a couple of times and spit out all the shit that came up. now you should be ready to begin. now when you scream its important to use your stomach so when you scream, push like your taking a shit. i know it sounds wierd but i swear it works. now hold it as long as you can and say the word ''wow'' while your doing it. you will hear a sort of shriek that sounds very cool. thats what your looking for. when youve found that then your ready to scream like a mother fucker. if you have any more questions. dont hesitate to post them. i will help as much as i can...Kryla;/

They aren't death metal, and their vocals suck, IMO. You may like them, but you gotta understand, they aren't death metal, and he doesn't use the standard death metal vocals.

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hey
heres a good thing to try
while practicing growling
try singing now youve got something to die for by lamb of god
or sing
wreath by opeth
if u can master that
your gonna be able to growl like a pro

Whats up with this Hardcore/Nu-Metal shit being called growling. Im not sure exactly, but I dont know if Lamb of God or Opeth are metal... at all. Every one has their own way of growling. So it will take time to get it too work, and sound right, but it will eventualy come. Here's a few useful tips though, Growl every night, try and do it too a death metal album (not slipknot you faggots), and so on. It wont just come too you if you sit in front of your computer and jack off. Well, unless your of course Bones98.

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The low vocals on the first album are a growl, asshat. I'm not going to count the highs too much because they suck dick. BDM is a death metal band, just not brutal.

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That advice sucks. The stuff in th back of your throat keeps you from completely losing your voice, hence why it's good to drink milk, and eat cheese or yogurt. Say goodbye to your voice buddy.

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How about Aeon-Soulburner, I'm sure they can do much more vocally than either of those bands.

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Actualy, even though his newer growls suck try Six Feet Under's Feasting on the blood of the insane, you have to sing it fast lol.

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I don't know, there are bands that sing way faster than that. Try growling along to Slayer-Hell Awaits.

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your all a bunch of dumb asses. you have to spit that shit out. if you dont then in the middle of a scream that shit is going to come up and the scream will break. and whats all this shit saying that BDM is not death metal? how long have you been listening to metal? five min.? oh yeah. your all nu-metal heads . so things like song structure are meaningless to you. if you even know what that is. so please, dont rip on my advice. i know what im doing. i've been doing this for years. oh and im talking about HIGHS AND LOWS> dumbasses. try doing those with out spitting that shit up. at least he makes more noises than just "ort" and "eee". faggot rookies. learn somthing before you talk to me next time...Kryla;/


P.S> i listened to your vocals. they suck your mammas balls . how old are you 14? wait till your balls drop kid then talk to me.

very good, its about time someone with brains posted somthing...Kryla;/

HAHA! I mean music that is actualy possible to Growl too lol.. What you ask would be damn near impossible. Six Feet Under are the only understandable band that growls that I can keep pace with, besides deovurment. Other wise my jaw starts hurting and all that bs. I can keep a growl going for awhile, but I still have work to do on my breathing.

MFKR... ugh sorry to say this, but your gramar is worse than mine. Also, calling other people nu-metal heads is stupid. Your name is based off of the first, and the most horrible, Slipknot album ever made. So please, Kryla shut the fuck up. Corey Taylor is not growling, Anders Colsfini is not growling. Mike Majewski is growling.

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Shut the fuck up. You know nothing.

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I could ask the same of you, and is sentence structure nothing too you?

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hahaha. Just ignore him. He's a dumb ass feggit.

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Having trouble with your scream?
then stop dissing each other and save that aggression for when your trying to scream or growl... once your technique is down then the aggression will come naturally and unforced, not unlike the smile on your mothers face when she hears you trying to sing.
Practice makes brutal!

Speaking of that mother thing, my mom walked in right in the middle of recording a song... It was the damndest thing.

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I'm insulted that someone almost my age is such an idiot. MFKR666, this is metaltabs.com. There's not a soul here that listens to nu-metal--regardless of age--and if there is, we make fun of that person on every post I'm sure. If you sit there and cough up and hack all the time, of course your voice will thicken. But all you're doing is the same damn thing, only, you're making a "k" sound instead of a "grrr" sound.

Dave, these members are getting whiny at each other because every vocal style in the world has already been discussed more than once. There's not much else to talk about. And if some noob comes along and says he's the best and makes one post here giving crappy advice and never comes back, it's an inevitable flame.

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Well it wasnt crappy advice, its just advice we all already know. Technicaly not every vocal style has been talked about here, some band like Decapitated Prostitute(i doubt this was the name) did some weird ass cow vocal thing on one of their albums. So... theres a new one.

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And you're being a smartass. Everyone's growl is going to be different, but the technique is most likely the same.

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No seriously... Im not being a smart ass for once. Im so gona get flamed but the band is like Decapitated Prostitute. Hold on let me go look it up...

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Ah fuck me. Its Prostitute Disfigurement, and they do Pig Vocals... all though this is a differnt type of Pig Vocals than like Circle of Dead Children... I guess this is like an actual "Oink... Oink... Squeel" type thing. I read a reveiw like a month ago, and i just looked it up again. Phss oh well.

If you think about it though, cow vocals could be realy cool on a death metal album. Done properly the music could be more tribal than anything. This gives me ideas.

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oink?


How retarded......


Cow? You mean, like, DEATH FUCKING METAL!!!!! MOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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Even if so, it'd still be almost the same technique.

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Yep. MOOOOO.... REEEEEEEEE!!!

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yes talk shit bithes. i thrive off youre hate!!!!!

Shut the fuck up. Either talk vocal styles or get out.

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I think we might just start a new genre Moo Metal, even better Brutal Moo Metal. But there are some people who can imitate animals realy well, and just make the noises and all, pitch shift it lol... and Bam Moo Metal. , So tommrow ill post a little demo of my "cow" vocals .



I thrive off your bad spelling. Seriously, I dont even put effort fourth to spell decent, and im still better than you. No offence but are you another one of those mentaly challenged Slipknot fans who wear all black and are a closet icp listener?

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not an icp fan. but yes, i am a maggot. and yes i do wear all black. but whats wrong with that. and by the way im done blurting off nonsense. i wanted to get my name out there. obviously ive done so...so yeah, ill talk metal from now on. ok? so stop yer bitchin!

I dont know goth kids seem weird. I love metal and all but it seems they only listen to HIM and some realy skanky kids in my school listen to ICP... Anyways post around and dont be an ass. There's not realy much more to cover over Growling this thread is mainly for venting lol.

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I thrive off of your newbishness.

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Gothic kids suck. You can listen to metal, and still have short hair and wear non-all black clothing. It's scene kids like you that ruin everything.

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Shut the fuck up everybody with this off topic shit, or this thread fucking closes.

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Well, sorry, i know the screaming topic is brought up a lot, but what am I doing wrong? I've researched this over and over for literally hours and hours and hours and tried every technique on every forum, but theres definetly something I am doing wrong! I cant even get an actual 'scream' out, and when I try to, I usually either throw up or come close to throwing up...what am I doing wrong? I'm not that good with learning how to do something by reading and I know there is something I am misunderstanding here, Is this problem anything simililar to what any of you have experienced? This is so frustrating, I've been at this for about a month and I got nothing? Any advice? Videos? Mp3s? I'll try anything...
Thanks for your help.

Well, first off look up singing tutorials, and ways to build your diaphragm muscles up. read all 18 pages of this thread, and practice all the time. I suggest practicing to music you listen too a lot of, death metal/black metal/(any)core what ever it be. If your puking, your doing it way wrong. I threw up doing Pig Vocals last week, but that’s because I inhaled too much.

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hm, I've never had problems like that. Haven't gagged/puked at all, and I have a strong inhale scream/pig vocal. But that would be cool to do on stage.
The only problem with inhaling I have is if I do a long/heavy inhale after doing a regular outward growl, it hurts my temples.

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It is a very fucking hard thing to explain, i can only try explain exhales coz i have no idea about inhales.

With growls, ill try to explain how i sorta figured it out. I was in the same position as you. I would say that you are throwing up because you are straining your diaphragm really hard, perhaps too hard, but you are forcing the power into the wrong place.

Try yelling, at the top of your lungs (i think this is the hardest part about learning death vocals, its hard to practise them. You cant practise quietly IMO)
Now if you can yell - in your normal voice, you are expelling a lot of air, and using a lot of power from your gut muscles. Especially if you put your all into it.

Now if you can harness that same power, except play around with dropping your voicebox, literally making a 'growl' noise, tongue position (try the top of your mouth), maybe tilting your head down slightly... There are a whoe lot of different things to try which im sure you have read about.
Make sure when you are practising with volume, that you make sure to have regular drinks, and if you find it is hurting too much, to stop for a while. Your vocal strings will thicken and stop hurting, but if you go all out straight away and its hurting, you can fuck them.

When i started it fucking hurt a lot, i have quite a soft talking voice. Now i can go hard and it wont hurt for a long time - so it does work.

I found that once i had the power there, and if i practised being LOUD, thats when it came to me.
You can force as much strain on your stomach muscles ect, but unless you are trying to let the neighbors know about it - you wont get anywhere.

I would classify the vocal style i can get near is that of Necrophagist. Not as brutal yet, but it is practise. If you dont want to be heard trying screams or growls at home, you need to get a band together and practise them where it really doesnt matter.

I hope that somewhat helped, its just an attempt to explain how i do it.

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Hey Newhell, you're actually not that bad of a growler. You had me fooled with the fact that you're such a little funny lookin' guy. Your opening growl is cool, though I don't really like growls that don't allow you to understand what the lyrics are. I assume that you barely move your mouth when you growl--and it's either very soft, or it's loud and hard for you to bring out the low gutter end crunch at the same time of trying to form words?

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Thanks, well I usually have my mouth in an almost O formation and I growl pretty loudly, but yeah, I should work on enunciating a little better

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Warm up by yielling your ass off. you might end up sounding like some Hardcore kid, but it will excersize your throat. Then worry about actually growling.

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I think it really helps -

whilst i was at drama school, i managed to take advantage of the qualified professional vocal coaches and experts in breathing techniques that were available to me at the time, to make some study into the biology of what metal vocals are.

in detail, the main system used for metal vocals (lower in the death metal style, and higher in the black metal style) is a constriction, or almost complete coverage, of the false vocal folds during sound being created by the true vocal folds.

i've also managed to teach various people (including non metallers, who were interested) how to reach the point of decent volume and clarity (per se) of voice / sound.

i've had a listen to your track and it appears to be that you're basing your vocal sound on a low volume, breathy approach. whilst i can understand why you'd try that, as it works in a closed environment and sounds similar to the original article you'll hear on record, it's not actually how most do it.

if you can, get yourself somewhere that you can shout and not be interrupted or be in danger of annoying someone. first, make a clean note sound through the "ahhhh" vowel, like you would a normal tone for speech, then stop the note by making the feeling in your throat similar to coughing.

go over this several times and become familiar with the sensation.

then, do the same, but louder. almost to the point of shouting.

as you get louder, you'll hopefully find it harder and harder to stop the note immediately with the throat's action (the false vocal folds). start listening for a slight clip or faltering of tone just before the note completely stops. that's the foundation of the metal vocal sound.

as you do this, try prolonging that clip moment until you're effectively trying to speak at volume *through* this barrier that your throat is making. it will sound harsher and harsher until you'll eventually recognise a familiar tone.

be aware though, the first number of times, i guarantee you, you will both a) be in quite a lot of discomfort and b) sound like a total idiot.

after a while, you'll be able to speak at volume through the clip sound (or barrier). if you're using your normal talking tone of voice, this will be your mid range metal vocal. get used to it, then you can start moving onto other areas of tone, for instance how muhammed uses the kind of cavernous sound in lower vocals (this is found through a specific shape being made with the jaw and initial throat and larynx area, passing resonance back almost as far as the trachea) or the much higher sounds similar to most black metal singers, again a very different technique but all coming from the same origin.

if you've found this at all useful and got any results with it or found that i'm not talking complete shit, let me know and i'll gladly point you further towards other techniques.

H

(examples of what i've managed to reach vocally can be found on the link in my signature, although it's by no means the extent of my range)

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Alright, I read through about 4 of the first pages to make sure I didnt sound like a complete off track idiot, and ask a question someone already brought up. but after I got through them i said fuck it im gonna ask anyways.

Ive been playing guitar for a while now, and thats not my problem. but I wanna start doing vocals for my band...seeing as we lack a vocalist. I dont wanna be a pussy no-balls eat shit and die kinda singer. I dont really wanna do cannibal corpse stuff either, I mean i have to play guitar aswell. I kinda wanna do sometyhing along the lines of Alexi Laiho's growl/scream cause hes a pretty big inspiration for the guitar, and CoB is one of my favorite bands. My only problem is I dont know where to start, i dont really know to much about vocals and i dont want to completely fuck up my voice. could anyone here give me any tips on how to get a Laiho growl? also how much harm will that bring to my accual voice? (not that I really care, If i get a mean growl like that my voice can shove it)

sorry if im sounding like a stupid Forum noob or some shit like that, i dont really use forums much, just to get tips or something when I need to

any tips would be appriciated

fuck, ANYONE?!

Alexi does not growl. He does some fruity scream where every word ends with yeah. Trying black metal screaming and adding some "Ow"s to each vowel/consonant.



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hehe good call. Couldn't have said it better myself.

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I saw a recent thread where I guy said that screaming made his head hurt, and it was all about pressure, etc etc. When I growl for longer than about 20 seconds -- unless it's just really wimpy and lazy and I'm not trying -- I feel some pressure in my nose. Has anybody else experienced this?

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that's fucking weird, I can't say I have. And I growl pretty hard/loud/whatever

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Well, now that I think about it, it might be something as simple as allergies. This time of year could probably build a little pressure in there or something. Not too big of a problem anyway. At least I'm one of the lucky few that don't get a sore throat from it.

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Heh, same here

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Hey guys...I just wanted to get some opinions on my growling for my new band........it would be very much appreciated. hails. Oh yeah, be fucking harsh with your opinions, honest critizism would be cool. Hails. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...iendID=49529859

I think it's pretty good. I can't think of anything I would change. Sounds like some badass black metal-type vocals. I would insult you if I could, but I don't think there's anything wrong with it. So you'll just have to settle for a compliment. Sweet band.

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Shitty recording quality, but here's my growls.
http://www.purevolume.com/necrotic

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Pretty sick, dude (of course, I mean that in a good way). Definitely band-worthy. I'll be interested to hear Necrotic with a drummer -- just keep your signature updated. Good luck with it. Sounds awsome.

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Thanks alot dude, btw you're shitty project isn't too bad either. We probly wont wait for a drummer seeing as it's near imposible to find one, but I'll let ya know when we do. If not, soon enough we'll just make a drum track, re-record it all, and add bass too.

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newHellonEarth, that was pretty awsome indeed! I like it, keep up the good work. Check out my growls I guess, I think you might like them... http://www.writhen.net/ our myspace link is on that page.

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Yeah dude, I already checked it out. I hate how they were mixed into the song, but they are good.

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my buddy uses milk and he found these candys that work even better than any of the other things hes tried

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Can anyone help me with my screaming techniques? I didn't want to waste another useless post on the boards and i've been following this page for a bit and it's helped me loads but i'm still having trouble.

I start to scream and it doesn't sound very raspy.. then it just breaks and goes into a hideous squeel. It sounds a little like Randy Blythe when i get a good one, but i still want to make it powerful and more raspy. Thanks to this board i went from not being able to scream at all.. To getting a starting sound.. So i was hoping it could help me further.

Thing is.. I can't scream well, but i can growl really easily.. :S

How old are you? I don't want to insist that it has to do with voice-cracking, but that may very well be the problem. If so, your voice will grow out of it. If not...hhhmmmm...well, for raspiness, start smoking. You'll probably get some kind of cancer, but just hope it's of the throat that way you can be in a techno band with your electronic voice simulator.

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I'm 17.. My voice broke quite a while ago.. I just find it hard to get words to come out well and keep the raspy sound...

It just kinda sounds like harsh shouting :/

Or like just now.. I start screaming and then all the mucus from my throat goes and i just.. Shout.. ARH IT'S ANNOYING.

im preatty good at screaming so my advice is to do a burp but then do a ruff one then make it more high pitch each time and do that then you can hit the high notes and youl have a good scream in no time

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No. Just do a growl and open your mouth more.

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The problem i'm having now is that i go light headed and it often kills my head afterwards...

It's not going well for me hahaha.

Thanks for the compliment, Mortpayne. And as for screaming, I just use inhales. (I don't use any inhales in the previous link I posted though, those songs were recorded before I knew how to do them) cheers.

My scream keeps changing so i'm all over the place currently. However i'm getting a feel for a comfortable scream that doesn't hurt my throat and it's sounding kinda alright haha oh well.. I'll just have to keep practising and checking up here for advice and tips.

+1. Two advantages to this :

1. Growling is malleable. No matter how you sound now, with practice you can change your sound. It seems that with screaming you're just kind of stuck with whatever you sound like.
2. Growling does'nt hurt your throat. If you breathe correctly and have good jaw posture, it won't. Screaming's a different matter for most people, apparently it does'nt bother Jens Kidman. But it would destroy me in about a day.

when i breath using my diaphragm it feels a little bit like im not getting enough air so i doubt i can growl well with it. i guess i should experiment more with the diaphragm breathing thing (as soon as i get my growl back.. its already 3 days passed and my voice is still fucked)

Can anyone here give me some tips to do a scream like Varg or Skjeld from Nyktalgia. I'm not really looking for vocals like on the new Sterbend ablum or like Silencer. They are a little bit to 'clean'. I'm looking for a more harsh high pitched scream like the first two vocalists I mentioned.

Am I correct in saying that the Tony Bullard tutorial thing isn't the correct way to growl? Because I've been practicing my growling (using the Tony Bullard technique) for several months now, and I can't get it to sound very good. Also, someone mentioned above that to scream you "growl, but open your mouth more", and that totally doesn't work for me. I'll upload some clips to demonstrate.

This clip is of me attempting to sing Dechristianize. Yes, there is a click track in the background. I needed it to nail the overdubs.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IAO3NCQT

The following clips are of me trying to scream using the Tony Bullard technique. Notice the shittiness.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A8MKG34Z

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5SZLO5TU

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ON2LO0G2

The growling doesn't hurt my throat at all (although it did when I began), even after long periods. The main problems I have with it are that I can't go for very long (9 seconds), I can't scream using it, and it just doesn't sound as smooth as "correct" growling. However, I may be wrong about all this, I might just need more practice. If someone (who can really growl, I don't want to know about the virtues of drinking milk, soda, or honey) could help me out with this, I'd really appreciate it.

This is the Tony Bullard vocal thing, in case you haven't heard it yet.

http://xscenesterx.org/Tony_Bullard_...l_Tutorial.mp3

sounds preatty good to me mike but the recording is shit

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It really is... but yeah thanks Mike.

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Please help me out here, guys. I'm frustrated beyond belief with my vocals these days.

Metus Remedy

Yeah if I could get some more opinions too that wood be cool...

hmmmm screaming yeah i have to agree withe beastofcarrion or whatever how his name went it will fuck up your throat i do it from my stomache not the throat

I hate you and you name

Right... My scream has gotten a lot better.. I can scream much raspier, it doesn't hurt my throat at all..

However.. I can't hold a note properly.. I can't sing for shit so i'm thinking this will be why.. Is there anyway to learn to hold a note?

Does anyone know why the fuck is the longest growl i can project about 6 seconds?

Awesome.

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That's spelt 'your' by the way

I had that problem too at first.. you just need a bit more practice.

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Hi, I have been playing guitar for around 3 years now, and I want to form a band where I sing as well. I would like to have some growls in there, but I do not know where to start about learning how to growl. Also are there different ways of learning different growls? Personally I like Jari Mempaa's growls in Wintersun and Ensiferum. As well as the guy from Dark Tranquility (forgot his name sry). So any help in getting started would be greatly apreciated, thanks.

does ANYONE here know how to do growls like the one guy does in Kataklysms 'Road to devastation'? the one voice with lyrics: 'Son confront me...','Kneel before me...' ? any advices how to get sound like that?

I didnt wanna open a thread for this, but lol, Lordi owned the eurovision
I was like, wtf o0?
The song they played is called "Hard Rock Halleluja" and is crappy ofcourse (kind of like heavy pop), but it's so cool that finland actually sent these guys and won

I know this is a late reply, but isn't that pretty normal for growling? 5 or 6 is about all I can do without fucking up. Who have you heard do longer that makes you want to simulate?

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I think Jacob said in his very nice ( ) growling/screaming/singing guide that he can hold a growl for 15+ secs
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I guess this thread is sometimes used for criticism. I posted in the "my riffs" thread to see what people think about the guitars, but I'm sure I need more help with the vocals. It's my cover of "Devil's Dance" (see my sig for the link -- it's the first song). Aside from doing a death growl, this style is usually how I sing to metal music. But it's clearly flawed. Keep in mind that I'm getting over a cold, and since I had to sing along with only my quiet computer speakers I couldn't really get loud. But enough excuses -- it's fairly close to what I usually sound like. Any pointers? Anthing about it I should keep?

(and yeah, I know it may not work right now, as when I last checked it the songs were still uploading, but they should be there before long)

UPDATE: Yep, they're up now (finally).

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I'm having a few problems and coming across this thread, I was wondering if someone would be able to help. I'm a female and my band was looking for someone to do some back-up vocals. I've always wanted to scream so I thought I'd try to practice and give it a shot. Under my breath I have a great scream and I know I can do it. But when I actually go to, I breathe out from my diaphram(sp?) and all and force all I can out, but my voice ends up just cracking very badly. I was wondering how do you get around this?

If you're forcing it, don't. Trying to belt out an extreme, natural scream will cause things like cracking for some people. Not to mention plenty of damage if you're not careful. Don't try to make it the loudest thing possible (after all, you've got a mic and a volume knob). Experiment with your voice and try to find something that's different than your natural scream. At least more controlled and designed. Just remember that force isn't what it's about -- it's about tone. And though you may have a nice tone when you're cursing out the neighbors, you'll probably need to alter it a little till you find what's comfortable for singing in a band. Just listen to a bunch of different voices (screaming or not) and fool around with your own. It can be a lot of fun, and it almost always ends up with a good vocal style that fits you personally.

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Here's a random (slightly stupid) question. Steven Tyler (yeah, that Steven Tyler) has one weird scream/shriek thing going on. Paul McCartney did it a few times at the end of "Hey Jude", and there's been a commercial on about Rhapsody or some music website that's playing an otherwise annoying song that has it. The only lyric I can recall is "in a cubical". Anyway, he has a similar scream. I like it for some reason. Sounds like a baboon getting ass-raped. So I was wondering if anybody had any tips on how to do this. (the scream, not the ass-rape)

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Alright, I'll give that a try. All i've heard from people are to force it and let it go, so i've been trying and it doesn't really help at all. I just need a way to get my voice out and actually sound helf decent